ray96disco
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There are charging stations at the grocery store here. I can't believe there wouldn't be enough around bizzle's town to keep him juiced.
Oh, absolutely. I was just saying the reason I like the TDI over the electric is that you get great mileage AND can reliably take long road trips in it. I wish I could afford to have an around town vehicle and a distance one, but just one at a time for me.You can always plug it in at home, right? They're not for everyone.
You have to wonder if they won't extend the program if they don't get the sales numbers they want.That said, I called the dealer back and they're working on extending the loyalty offer to the end of next week until VW announces what they're going to do for us TDI owners (California's deadline is Nov 20th, but he's hoping they will tell us next week).
Not if you rent something other than a house with a garage, the 120V plug takes a long time, outdoor GFIs trip for next to nothing, so knowing, really knowing you have a fully charged car is not a given with any sort of common, non-dedicated charging station.You can always plug it in at home, right? They're not for everyone.
We live out in the desert. We're about 20 miles over range. Not yet sure how we're going to get it homeNot if you rent something other than a house with a garage, the 120V plug takes a long time, outdoor GFIs trip for next to nothing, so knowing, really knowing you have a fully charged car is not a given with any sort of common, non-dedicated charging station.
While I'm intrigued by the technology, the location of the nearest dealer (73 miles) is such it's marginal if I'd get one all the way home.
I was kinda wondering that. I know in San Diego and a few other parts of California at least (according to a few news articles I've read), there is a push to get EV charging stations installed into multi-family homes - apartments - and they have quite a few stations around the larger cities in the state. Doing that in my state would require an act of God (landlord approval, resident approval for my designated spot, and finding a way to properly charge only ME for the usage). We won't even pay our public educators, so I can't imagine charging stations are high on the list.Not if you rent something other than a house with a garage, the 120V plug takes a long time, outdoor GFIs trip for next to nothing, so knowing, really knowing you have a fully charged car is not a given with any sort of common, non-dedicated charging station.
While I'm intrigued by the technology, the location of the nearest dealer (73 miles) is such it's marginal if I'd get one all the way home.
I see a nice sit down meal in your purchase experience, at a location sporting a charging station.We live out in the desert. We're about 20 miles over range. Not yet sure how we're going to get it home
Who said the SCR system won't be covered by the legislated EPA 10 year warranty?[[...]
3. SCR without long-term extended warranty is a time bomb ticking to explode in the face of consumer and consumer alone
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When I spoke with my dealer today he said the German big wheels were at the Chattanooga plant here in Tennessee and that they were explaining some of the new features of the new Passat.My dealer has said they know as much as we know. Nothing more. It's interesting how some know nothing and some know something!
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UGH! Worthless if you don't have kids...When I spoke with my dealer today he said the German big wheels were at the Chattanooga plant here in Tennessee and that they were explaining some of the new features of the new Passat.
The TDI problem came up and that is what they were told. As far as the gift card goes he didn't know the amount. Could be $25.00. Could be $1,000. Could be used for Chuckie E Cheese tokens...
This nicely sums up my view on this whole EV discussion:I may be wrong but at this point, they're not much more than commuter cars in larger cities. I don't think they're for everyone. You need a relatively short commute and an add on to your home electrical system. It's nothing more than upgrading a dedicated outlet to handle it. Yes, it's easier for a homeowner to do this than a tenant but, again, it's not for everyone. I think the electric car people are just as quirky (ok, more so) as TDI people.
Ask him which he uses the most. We have a Tesla and a TDI. We use the Tesla MUCH more and especially only the Tesla for our multi-hundred mile trips to the SW 4 Corners area and to the Pacific Northwest. Superchargers are well laid out over the areas we like.A friend of mine's father owns a Tesla S (drooooool) and has the charging station in his garage but only commutes about 8 miles to work so it's a non-issue. They also have a Q7 TDI, so best of both worlds. I'd love to have that option.
Bizzle, I have driven the eGolf and I really like it. Do check out the Fiat 500E as it is less money and still lots of fun. There are several lowered 500e's around my neighborhood that look great. I haven't tried but I have heard the Kia Soul EV is very nice and it does have a longer range than the eGolf. Oh yeah, the Chevy Spark is super fast and less expensive than the eGolf. Just sayin' you might try a few others (maybe you already have).Yep, we plan on keeping our JSW and leasing the eGolf.
I just finished a trip to Baltimore and back, getting 46-47 mpg. It may not begin with a 5, but it's still damn good mileage for a comfortable, 4 door sedan! Love my TDIActually it was closer to 53 MPG, that is not the correct pic. But pretty close. Point is, these cars can get pretty good MPGs. They are geared MUCH taller than the older cars. I keep forgetting it has a 6th gear, LOL.
The 09's will be recieving a minature Rob Halford clone, he will be strapped to the hood and spit DEF fluid into the intake.From what I hear there will be a big filler port attached to the top of your hood. It will open automatically when the nozzle is inserted.
There will be a DEF monitor in the car with a cell link.
When it comes on as soon as you hit the Interstate a big VW DEF tanker plane will fly overhead and automatically top you off ala midflight jet refueling. You speed up to 100 and it matches your speed, then a refueling boom is lowered until it mates with the port.
It sounds complicated but VW was trying to come up with a way to spill less DEF on your car than the service technicians do.
Apparently Senator Markey (D-MA) didn't get the memo regarding the unconstitutionality of withholding funds, because he introduced the RECALL act into the Senate in May:FWIW, I am not as certain as many seem to be that it is a certainty that all states will require the "fix" whatever it might be, to be completed in order to renew registration. For the most part, emissions tests check sensors, and if they all check out "ready" then you pass-- which all of these cars will do in their present condition. It seems to me that any rule targeting "affected" TDI owners will require new legislation at the state level. As far as I can tell, this is even true for California, because I am not sure that CARB has authority to target specific vehicle owners, rather than automakers. Because they will have to change the emissions test rules for these specific cars.
Nor is it very obvious, as many seem to think, that the EPA could force the states to do this. Through what mechanism? The EPA has zero control over auto registration at the state level. It is possible, as some have noted, that the federal government might attempt to force the states to act, in the same way that it forced the adopting of the Age 21 drinking age, or 55mph speed limit, etc. But that would likely require an new Act of Congress to support the EPA position. Have you checked in on the Congress lately? Not likely to support the EPA on anything, ever.
And even if it were, the "withhold funding" mechanism to force states to do XYZ, which produced the Age 21 drinking age and 55mph speed limit, among other things, was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court just a year or two ago (the Obamacare decision).
It is going to be a very long while for a fix to be designed, proposed, and approved. It will then be another very long while before there is any mechanism to compel adoption of the fix by vehicle owners. And then yet another very long while to get the fix, because of the queue that would then exist at VW dealers.
I think it likely that I will put another 60 or 70k miles on the car before any of this could become an issue that I must deal with.
I don't know. I don't think you have to pay to get legal adivice on this case. They are falling over themselves trying to get clients. I have lawyers offering to take the case on contingency (no recovery no pay; they take 30%) on an individual (not class action) basis.If and when it does, then there may be something to talk about. Are you willing to pay $300/hr for this legal counsel of which you speak?
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Hell nah...I want my gift card. Maybe get me some V-dub dubs and some springs to drop my TDI like it's hot.If a retrofit SCR system is the solution offered by VW for my EA189 AND it is installed without compromising ANY space, performance, torque and fuel economy AND the ENTIRE exhaust system from manifold to the end of the tailpipe is 100% warrantied for the life of my car as long as I own it, VW can keep their gift cards. Did I forget anything?
Oh yeah, free urea refills for life.
Just came from the dealer......A gift card and trade in appraisal is coming to TDI owners this week or next week. He didn't know how much the gift card would be for but he said everyone who is THINKING about trading in their TDI should hold on.
He also said next month VW is going to start up their Sign & Drive promotion. He expects to sell 25 new VW's compared to the normal 15.
Also he said that no one will be forced to have the recall performed. The government can only force safety recalls. (California might be the exception)
They promised to keep me informed as to what else they hear.