2005 Golf BEW New Owner

79TA7.6

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Finally got around to scanning the car.
18996- turbo boost control position sensor circuit. P2564- 000- signal too low.

01276- abs hydraulic pump (v64). 012- electrical fault in circuit

00591- seatbelt switch; driver (e24). 32-00 resistance too high
P.O. told me he took the seat belt latch out of this car to put in his 2 door as it had the same issue. Anyway to fix it, or am I looking for a new latch?

00931- locking module for central locking rear right (f223). 27-10 implausible signal intermittent.
This one is interesting as since we put a new battery in the fob the alarm has started going off at random times. I figured a bad door switch, but the fault says it is a bad rear door, which only the two passenger doors activate the interior lights when opened.

Off to look up the rest of the faults.

Edit: I should note that I scanned a couple nights ago and cleared the faults. Son has been driving this back and forth to school and has had no under boost issues. The above codes were from todays scan. They are persistent and do not go away. Receipts from P.O. says he replaced turbo a couple years ago.
 
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JDSwan87

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18996 could be a chafed wire. There is 2 wires going to that actuator and (at least on mine) the wires rubbed on something, causing the fault code.
 
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That is what I would term, 'best case' issue. A new gear set will put you back down the road. If it were the output splines that went, you'd be in slightly warmer water. Best 'o luck, a new gear set should not be terrible to find. Is OTO $300 for a .717

Douglas
 

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That is what I would term, 'best case' issue. A new gear set will put you back down the road. If it were the output splines that went, you'd be in slightly warmer water. Best 'o luck, a new gear set should not be terrible to find. Is OTO $300 for a .717

Douglas
I have a spare trans that I just ripped the 5th out of. Golf is back on the road running happily. Minus the horrendous sound the DMF is making.
 

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So when I bought this car the owner had two keys, valet key and the fob key. The battery in the fob had been dead for about a year I think he said. First day messing with the car we only used the valet key. My son got a battery and replaced the one in the fob and ever since then, if that key is used for starting the car, the alarm will randomly go off. All day today I have been using the valet key and have not had any issues. On my Jetta, when I turn the key off, all the accessories stay on for a while until I remove the key. With this golf, when I turn the ignition off, everything shuts down as well as the doors try to unlock. Did they make a change, or do I have something wrong? Could this be why the key fob gives issues? Maybe I just need to reprogram the fob?
 

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I installed a BEW Cam in a BRM engine a year or so ago. I had never been that deep into a BEW or BRM engine previously. So, I meticulously worked my way through the job. It was an interesting endeavor/

Anyway, in the link below you can sift through the photos I took. I hope this helps.

 

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Drove the golf to work this morning, first 65 miles under my watch. Drove decent, handled well but power seems down, but I am also used to my stage 5 ALH. I also have not pulled the valve cover to check for cam wear.

I did notice the cruise control acting really weird. Would not hold speed where I set it, but would catch up with itself. If I set it at 68, it would drop down to about 58 before it realized it was not where it was supposed to be and correct itself. If I touched the throttle at any time when it was below the set value, it would automatically correct itself from there. Not sure where to even start with this one.
 

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A stock BEW will seem very slow compared to your stage 5 ALH. However, the cruise not holding means something is wrong. Check for cracked intercooler, the "ends" separate from the "core".
 

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Isn't the cruise electronically controlled? Only reason I am asking is that if I touch the throttle, the cruise will pick back up again. It is acting as if it has alzheimer's and forgets where it is supposed to be set, then all the sudden remembers again. Touching the throttle helps it remember. I will still look at the intercooler though.
 

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Yes, the Cruise is electronically controlled.

Have you scanned for codes? Sometimes there can be a Diagnostic Test Code without a Check Engine light or flashing Glow Plug light.
 

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Last scanned Friday. Post 31 has the results. At that time there were no faults related to the cruise. I do not have my windows laptop or my cable with me at work. I will scan again when I get home.

I should also note that after messing around with the 5th gear, I checked the turbo actuator for damaged wired, but did not see anything. This morning I noticed my engine light was not illuminated on my drive to work. Need to check that anyway as I know this is not a self healing engine.
 

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This is the entire scan of the car. I also looked over the intercooler and I am not seeing any visible splits, but it is also pretty dirty right now. I will have to remove the inner fender and clean it out really good to get a real good idea.

Code:
Tuesday,19,March,2024,18:31:07:54946
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.10.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20221026 DS344.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 9BWGR61J454006078   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: 9BWGR61J454006078   Mileage: 351260km-218262miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
   Part No SW: 038 997 016 R    HW: 028 101 181 2
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  0282 
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D0371808
   Coding: 0150031
   Shop #: WSC 59301 001 1048576
   VCID: 2D4FC1D8B7C79CE519-515A
   VINID: 2529D788605A1051000060072069337B9C

1 Fault Found:
18996 - Turbocharger Boost Control Position Sensor Circuit
            P2564 - 000 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 0.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Lambda: 0.0 %
                    Absolute Pres.: 183.6 mbar
                    Absolute Pres.: 918.0 mbar

Readiness: 0 1 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102 
   Coding: 0019458
   Shop #: WSC 00001 785 00200
   VCID: 3479D4BC54EDCD2D56-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 08 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0003 
   Coding: 12344
   Shop #: WSC 00001 
   VCID: 274333F0C53BB6B5E3-515A

1 Fault Found:
00591 - Seat Belt Switch; Driver (E24)
            32-00 - Resistance Too High

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 907 E
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03 
   Coding: 04232
   Shop #: WSC 88888 
   VCID: 2B4BCFC0D9D392D507-515A
   9BWGR61J454006078     VWZ7Z0D0371808

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001 
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00001 
   VCID: 70F118AC3075B10D72-50E6

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 8C Komfortgerát HLO 0004 
   Coding: 00259
   Shop #: WSC 00001 
   VCID: 3763E3B0159B263573-4B64

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0202 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0202 

1 Fault Found:
00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223)
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 3B7 035 180 E
   Component:    Radio NP2        0008 
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 05311 
   VCID: 225522E4AE19539DB4-515A

No fault code found.

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79TA7.6

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Is there something I can log with VCDS to check the operation of the cruise? It is not fully disengaging as I do not have to touch anything related to the CC, just flip the throttle and I am going again. It can happen anywhere from several times a minute, to not happening for 5 minutes.
 

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Well at least you have the most recent updates on the 7v glow plugs according to the ecu part number and software version.
 

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For the past couple weeks I have been driving the golf every day to work, 66 miles one way. Starting Monday I decided to get out my old Android phone and OBD adaptor and start watching some stuff via TorquePro. Running at 65 mph, I am seeing around 8psi boost constant. When I get on it, it will spike to 22 for a second, then drop to about 12, then hold steady at 14-15. It has been a very long time since I ran ToquePro with my ALH, but I do not recall it running boost that high, I was thinking it was less than 5. Another thing I noticed is that it is only getting to 180ºF. I am assuming when the TB was done they put in a lower temp t-stat as I was thinking it is supposed to be 190º, correct? I was also trying to look at engine load and throttle position, but it seems either I was running custom PIDs for the throttle position, or they changed something in the app. When I am not touching the throttle, it reads 95%, but it also states this measurement is taken at the intake. I am sure it was Throttle Position Sensor I was reading on the ALH, as in the throttle pedal. Engine load is also all over the place. Not super worried about those at the moment as I was hoping they might help me understand my cruise control issue.

Can anyone confirm what boost your BEW is running with a manual in 5th gear cruising level ground at 65mph? I am thinking the intake might be clogged, I have not had time to remove the EGR to inspect yet. I am also only getting about 41mpg currently, thinking it is cause it is boosting so high it is struggling for air? Not sure how the BEW compared to the ALH as far as fuel mileage, but I would think it would be closer than what it is.
 

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Hi everyone

I need some help. I recently bought this golf5 1.9 tdi. The owner is my uncle and he told me the car as 1 problem only. It doesn’t start in the morning but it starts in the afternoons or midday once it gets hot outside. I did speak to Mechanic. He came and tested. He told me it was the glow plug relay, bought the global plug relay, which was really expensive and it still didn’t work. I put the old sensor back and I tried to start the car. The car starts in the afternoons/midday only, now I noticed that my glow plug light is flashing and before it never used to do this. Any idea what’s wrong?

I didn’t post this on another group and they said probably can be the glow plugs, can we test the glow plugs whilst it in the car?
 

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Hi everyone

I need some help. I recently bought this golf5 1.9 tdi. The owner is my uncle and he told me the car as 1 problem only. It doesn’t start in the morning but it starts in the afternoons or midday once it gets hot outside. I did speak to Mechanic. He came and tested. He told me it was the glow plug relay, bought the global plug relay, which was really expensive and it still didn’t work. I put the old sensor back and I tried to start the car. The car starts in the afternoons/midday only, now I noticed that my glow plug light is flashing and before it never used to do this. Any idea what’s wrong?

I didn’t post this on another group and they said probably can be the glow plugs, can we test the glow plugs whilst it in the car?
You will probably get a lot more help if you start your own thread in the proper forum for the model and year of your car. New threads attract more people.
 

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Cruising at 70 in my bew before the retune running malone stage 1.5, it was running about 12ish psi with about 75% charge pressure. That is just cruising on level freeway. Now after burpod retune it is doing about 3.6 psi. Its a tad low and we are still dialing that in but i have gained at least 10% fuel economy with my best tank running in the oregon mountains on I-5 at 46mpg. Engine temp, 90.1C
 

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Wow, that is a lot of boost. What are you guys trying to get it down to? 3.6 seems a little low, especially if you needed to get on it for some reason. Is this a manual, or auto car? I don’t remember what all your rigs are anymore. Lol.
 

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Wow, that is a lot of boost. What are you guys trying to get it down to? 3.6 seems a little low, especially if you needed to get on it for some reason. Is this a manual, or auto car? I don’t remember what all your rigs are anymore. Lol.
you only need as much boost as you need.... depending on the soi, injection duration, other factors :)

if you need to "get on it", if things are done right, just because you're cruising with lower boost, doesn't mean it can't wake right up ;)
 

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Wow, that is a lot of boost. What are you guys trying to get it down to? 3.6 seems a little low, especially if you needed to get on it for some reason. Is this a manual, or auto car? I don’t remember what all your rigs are anymore. Lol.
Iirc target boost was about 7psi but maybe 3.6 is adequate. As @burpod says, getting on it, its right there. Trans is a 6 speed dsg.
 

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target boost for just cruising @ 70 on flat should never need to be 7psi, unless things are way off or running inefficient. in my wifes BEW, cruising @ 70mph on flat, no wind i'm usually around 2psi at most on the current tune. with 09a automatic, good amount of short trips and fair amount of beating on it tune testing and when i drive on the highway, i often drive 80mph when i can, 43-45mpg all winter long.... granted a mild winter, but i think it also does have a bit of a leaky-open t-stat which i've not bothered to change. the BEW, IMO, generally needs more boost than a similarly equipped ALH
 

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3.6 seems a little low, especially if you needed to get on it for some reason.
You'd be surprised how fast these things will build boost. Just recently installed my boost gauge and when I push the skinny pedal the needle jumps instantly.
 

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For the past couple weeks I have been driving the golf every day to work, 66 miles one way. Starting Monday I decided to get out my old Android phone and OBD adaptor and start watching some stuff via TorquePro. Running at 65 mph, I am seeing around 8psi boost constant. When I get on it, it will spike to 22 for a second, then drop to about 12, then hold steady at 14-15. It has been a very long time since I ran ToquePro with my ALH, but I do not recall it running boost that high, I was thinking it was less than 5. Another thing I noticed is that it is only getting to 180ºF. I am assuming when the TB was done they put in a lower temp t-stat as I was thinking it is supposed to be 190º, correct? I was also trying to look at engine load and throttle position, but it seems either I was running custom PIDs for the throttle position, or they changed something in the app. When I am not touching the throttle, it reads 95%, but it also states this measurement is taken at the intake. I am sure it was Throttle Position Sensor I was reading on the ALH, as in the throttle pedal. Engine load is also all over the place. Not super worried about those at the moment as I was hoping they might help me understand my cruise control issue.

Can anyone confirm what boost your BEW is running with a manual in 5th gear cruising level ground at 65mph? I am thinking the intake might be clogged, I have not had time to remove the EGR to inspect yet. I am also only getting about 41mpg currently, thinking it is cause it is boosting so high it is struggling for air? Not sure how the BEW compared to the ALH as far as fuel mileage, but I would think it would be closer than what it is.
When my BEW was doing that, it was because the actuator was on its way out. I replaced the actuator and I was back to 5 lbs of boost or less on flat roads at 60mph.
 
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