Hamsterdiesel said:There is a huge problem with anyone referring to our Annual TDIFest as a GTG...The big difference between the two is that the Fest is a fundraiser....
I respectfully believe that we are debating semantics when addressing the difference, if any, between an assembly of TDI owners in a "TDIFest" and those in a "GTA". Both are basically the same in regards to purpose, goals, characteristics.
Both events share a common purpose of getting together with others to share, talk, admire, discuss, review, debate, etc...etc...issues relating to their diesel-powered cars (typically VW's). The goals of these gatherings typically emphasize "learning about" these diesel-powered cars about their maintenance, trouble-shooting, performance, improvements; together with the sheer joy of viewing each other's cars, and give/receive complementary comments regarding them. There is also a social component to both events whereby people meet, and make new friends, and share food, beer, stories, etc. Both events, at least the ones I've attended in the past, have charged a nominal fee to participate in the event. I, personally, do not mind paying a reasonable fee (cost-covering charge) because I understand, and perhaps willing to recognize, that there is a considerable time and dedication in planning for these event. In this sense, there is no distinguishing factors between the two. Perhaps one can contrast the two events by "duration". Typically, a "GTG" last a half-day, at most, while a "Fest" is three.
On the other hand, there may be potential pitfalls and risks involved in characterizing the distinguishing factor as being a "fundraiser" and the other not. What, then, is the real purpose of the gathering? Typically, "fundraising" activities are governed by very complicated "rules", intricate set of "regulations", and certain "disclosure" requirements. I seriously doubt that "fundraising" is the overriding distinguishing principle between the two events. One's characterization of a "Fest", and another's factual finding, while complimentary, at times, may also be mutually exclusive.
That's easier said than done. Most individuals require time and energy to devote to their own personal matters and affairs; such as work, family, etc. In my past effort to "organize" a local group for social purposes only (i.e., no money involved), I got ZERO response. Most that did respond argued "other" commitments, and "not enough time" on their hands (and probably so).Hamsterdiesel said:Stop the 'Wouldn't it be cool to have the Fest here' posts. They are a waste of time. Start talking to your local TDIers instead. Get to know others in your area. See if you have a local group that can commit the amount of time and energy necessary to plan and run a successful event. Then, and only then can you begin to consider locale.
Perhaps a better approach, in deciding "bids" for a "TDIFest", is to compose a committee for that purpose. Committee members, and a Chair, would represent differenct regions. Members would be responsible for "scouting" ideal areas within their region where a "Fest" could be held in future years. Each region would then put together a proposal Etc..Etc...Etc.... Ever heard how the location for the Olympic Games is chosen??? That way it is not always "crunch time".
What I've noticed so far is that there is too much fragmentation, and little coordination, in "placing a bid" amongst those attempting the feat.