Project weight Loss ALH TDI Engine build (56k+ wide screen friendly)
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shortysclimbin
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mk3pd you win a cookie 
Kerma at kermatdi also sells them for about the same costs as it would cost you to ship these puppies overseas fyi...
dieseldub764,
I would say until you are really pushing a vnt22+ you dont really need to upgrade the bottom end on your diesel. And this isnt a stroker kit its stock stroke because getting custom rods to stroke like that would be expensive and would limit higher rpms more where the bigger turbos perform better. BTW did you find out which tuning company you wanted to go with yet? you have some nice bolt on parts there that really need a tune to take advantage of any of them. Try that first and read the posts above yours of mine and you will understand why I am not "giving" out all the info. I dont want people going out and spending all the money on this stuff to find out it doesnt work in my block. Just because It "might" fit doesn't mean it is designed for what I am doing.
Ok enough on that subject. you guys want more pictures and progress right? So here is a picture of the cleaned new crank next to the old one.
For everyone else asking these same questions please note you would get the same response as the last two. So I am just going to ignore them now.
Kerma at kermatdi also sells them for about the same costs as it would cost you to ship these puppies overseas fyi... dieseldub764,
I would say until you are really pushing a vnt22+ you dont really need to upgrade the bottom end on your diesel. And this isnt a stroker kit its stock stroke because getting custom rods to stroke like that would be expensive and would limit higher rpms more where the bigger turbos perform better. BTW did you find out which tuning company you wanted to go with yet? you have some nice bolt on parts there that really need a tune to take advantage of any of them. Try that first and read the posts above yours of mine and you will understand why I am not "giving" out all the info. I dont want people going out and spending all the money on this stuff to find out it doesnt work in my block. Just because It "might" fit doesn't mean it is designed for what I am doing.
Ok enough on that subject. you guys want more pictures and progress right? So here is a picture of the cleaned new crank next to the old one.
For everyone else asking these same questions please note you would get the same response as the last two. So I am just going to ignore them now.
87turboquattro
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how much lighter is the crank?and is the crank trigger still in place?
shortysclimbin
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The crank is about 12.5lbs lighter and the trigger wheel needs to be moved over. I have to check to make sure its in the same spot on the crank though.
87turboquattro
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who did the crank work?looks like the bbc cranks after i send them to callies.that does look pretty.
I want oneshortysclimbin said:mk3pd you win a cookie
dieseldub764,
I would say until you are really pushing a vnt22+ you dont really need to upgrade the bottom end on your diesel. And this isnt a stroker kit its stock stroke because getting custom rods to stroke like that would be expensive and would limit higher rpms more where the bigger turbos perform better. BTW did you find out which tuning company you wanted to go with yet? you have some nice bolt on parts there that really need a tune to take advantage of any of them. Try that first and read the posts above yours of mine and you will understand why I am not "giving" out all the info. I dont want people going out and spending all the money on this stuff to find out it doesnt work in my block. Just because It "might" fit doesn't mean it is designed for what I am doing.
Ok enough on that subject. you guys want more pictures and progress right? So here is a picture of the cleaned new crank next to the old one.
For everyone else asking these same questions please note you would get the same response as the last two. So I am just going to ignore them now.
mrchill
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When I drove lightweight, I used the 78 Alpine Rabbit. It was about 1800 lbs without A\C. I would then replaced the bumpers with aluminum, replace the exhaust with a lighter one, remove anything I didnt need including rear windshield washer\wiper stuff if it had it(some were retrofitted), Put in lighter seats, Scirocco steering wheel, lighter wheels, better brales(GTI), better suspension and blueprint. If I wanted to go nuts, I would remove the sound deadener and rustproofing. 1600 lbs.
After I nearly killed myself in one of my superlights, I swore never to build another. Now, if I want to go faster, I make more power.
After I nearly killed myself in one of my superlights, I swore never to build another. Now, if I want to go faster, I make more power.
droppedjet
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Thats pretty damn good because 2200 is not bad at all and have a about 300 whp thats about what 13 secs in the 1/4 mileshortysclimbin said:
MJF
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More like 11sdroppedjet said:
Mikkijayne
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Thats a very very nice collection of bits!
2.5 TDI Transporter pistons? OE or aftermarket?
I'm definitely watching this build. I hope you get some good results before I make a proper start on mine
Mikki x
2.5 TDI Transporter pistons? OE or aftermarket?
I'm definitely watching this build. I hope you get some good results before I make a proper start on mine
Mikki x
Yelram
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I meant the generator and air compressor.shortysclimbin said:
shortysclimbin
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Chris have you been looking in my garage window ? That is exactly what is going on right now lol... But dont worry a cage is going in to add a little weight along with a slightly heavier block. I am basically trying to remove a little weight and move as much as I can central to the car to make it handle more neutral. Shine parts do help though
yelram you have a pm that stuff is for sale
? That is exactly what is going on right now lol... But dont worry a cage is going in to add a little weight along with a slightly heavier block. I am basically trying to remove a little weight and move as much as I can central to the car to make it handle more neutral. Shine parts do help though yelram you have a pm that stuff is for sale
You should convert to solid lifters and regrind your camshaft to a more "flow friendly" profile.shortysclimbin said:mk3pd you win a cookie
dieseldub764,
I would say until you are really pushing a vnt22+ you dont really need to upgrade the bottom end on your diesel. And this isnt a stroker kit its stock stroke because getting custom rods to stroke like that would be expensive and would limit higher rpms more where the bigger turbos perform better. BTW did you find out which tuning company you wanted to go with yet? you have some nice bolt on parts there that really need a tune to take advantage of any of them. Try that first and read the posts above yours of mine and you will understand why I am not "giving" out all the info. I dont want people going out and spending all the money on this stuff to find out it doesnt work in my block. Just because It "might" fit doesn't mean it is designed for what I am doing.
Ok enough on that subject. you guys want more pictures and progress right? So here is a picture of the cleaned new crank next to the old one.
For everyone else asking these same questions please note you would get the same response as the last two. So I am just going to ignore them now.
I am pretty sure Elgincams can find a good cam profile for you.
I got lifters and lash caps.
M I N I O N
scammer & kfed poser
Crank looks beautiful now that it is cleaned up. I can see that it is cut, deburred, micropolished and balanced. Anything under the skin to help oil flow? Maybe enlarged channels? Tear dropped/edge-rounded journal holes?
Can't wait to find out what else you have up your sleave. I'll be watching this closely.
Can't wait to find out what else you have up your sleave. I'll be watching this closely.
2002-tdi
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are you going to go w/lightened flywheel and balance the rotating assembly w/ pistons/rods too ?shortysclimbin said:mk3pd you win a cookie
dieseldub764,
I would say until you are really pushing a vnt22+ you dont really need to upgrade the bottom end on your diesel. And this isnt a stroker kit its stock stroke because getting custom rods to stroke like that would be expensive and would limit higher rpms more where the bigger turbos perform better. BTW did you find out which tuning company you wanted to go with yet? you have some nice bolt on parts there that really need a tune to take advantage of any of them. Try that first and read the posts above yours of mine and you will understand why I am not "giving" out all the info. I dont want people going out and spending all the money on this stuff to find out it doesnt work in my block. Just because It "might" fit doesn't mean it is designed for what I am doing.
Ok enough on that subject. you guys want more pictures and progress right? So here is a picture of the cleaned new crank next to the old one.
For everyone else asking these same questions please note you would get the same response as the last two. So I am just going to ignore them now.
what is that "pattern" ground in the counter weight versus just a knife edging ?
thank you
rjr311
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Take a look over at Ferrea for springs.DieselDub764 said:
http://www.ferrea.com/products.php#vsprings
or
http://www.racingsprings.com/valve-springs.htm
However if you read "Myth #4" http://www.stockcarracing.com/techarticles/general/scrp_0608_valvetrain_myths/index.html
you will see that instead of going with Titanium valves the recommendation is to do beehive springs.
If you have some more time . ( and yes I know our engines are not V8 pushrods )
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0402_valvesprings/index.html
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb50354.htm
StingrayRT
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Hi!
When somebody want superlight forged crank you can contact eurospec........
http://www.eurospecsport.com/eurocrankshafts.htm
When somebody want superlight forged crank you can contact eurospec........
http://www.eurospecsport.com/eurocrankshafts.htm
StingrayRT
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All that parts pistons, rods, crankshaft has to be weight matched with tight tolerance just a crankshaft need to be dynamically balanced before it has to be fitted to engine. So do not worry with lightweight crank.....Rub87 said:
StingrayRT
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Hi Geir! A lot of fun here, isn´t?mk3pd said:
StingrayRT
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Christmass time........I lanched some new projects for 2008........a new aluminium R5 tdi engine in 9sec zone and some 11sec 1.9tdi for friends.....and may be a new 4.0 V8 tdi from new audi A8.......a friend need minimum 600Hp from this engine....mk3pd said:
So lets say I want to run such 12.5kg eurospec crank in a PD150 bottom end with stock pistons that have been slightly machined for lower CR.. maybe the H beam rods, not sure on that one..StingrayRT said:
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]EFC 105 101 SC 955[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]038, 06A, 06B[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]95.5mm[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]New Style Long Nose and Trigger Wheel, Super Light. 12.5kg[/FONT]
Should it thezn be necessary to have the whole crap balanced or not? Whit these dollar rates it's really kind'a attrictive to get one
StingrayRT
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Rub87 said:So lets say I want to run such 12.5kg eurospec crank in a PD150 bottom end with stock pistons that have been slightly machined for lower CR.. maybe the H beam rods, not sure on that one..
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]EFC 105 101 SC 955[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]038, 06A, 06B[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]95.5mm[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]New Style Long Nose and Trigger Wheel, Super Light. 12.5kg[/FONT]
Should it thezn be necessary to have the whole crap balanced or not? Whit these dollar rates it's really kind'a attrictive to get one
No you don´t need balancing those components with respective to crank weight......
Looks like you will be busy for some timeStingrayRT said:
I stick mostly to gasser engine's,i don't have enough knowledge on Diesel engines.
Do you know if the R5 Tdi use the same rods as 4cyl PD130,140,150 ???
StingrayRT
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99% sure that is the same rods!mk3pd said:Looks like you will be busy for some time
I stick mostly to gasser engine's,i don't have enough knowledge on Diesel engines.
Do you know if the R5 Tdi use the same rods as 4cyl PD130,140,150 ???
Keep in mind that PD150 has a bigger rod journal,so PD150 rods won't fit this Eurospec crank.Rub87 said:So lets say I want to run such 12.5kg eurospec crank in a PD150 bottom end with stock pistons that have been slightly machined for lower CR.. maybe the H beam rods, not sure on that one..
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]EFC 105 101 SC 955[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]038, 06A, 06B[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]95.5mm[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]New Style Long Nose and Trigger Wheel, Super Light. 12.5kg[/FONT]
Should it thezn be necessary to have the whole crap balanced or not? Whit these dollar rates it's really kind'a attrictive to get one
I got H-beam rods for small journal which is tapered for PD150 pistons.
The Eurospec crank is probably dynamically balanced itself,but you must balance together with your pulley and flywheel/clutch.
My H-beam rods are weight adjusted,but you need to weight adjust your pistons ofcourse.
I am not sure,but i think the PD150 timing belt gear won't fit the Eurospec crank,maybe you can use from PD100 ATD??
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