wwhalenc
Veteran Member
I underestimated the effect of weight on fuel economy.
I recently changed swapped my TDI Drivetrain from a '91 Jetta into an '84 Scirocco. Here's the deal:
While it doesn't look so, the Jetta in fact has much better aerodynamics than the slippery *looking* scirocco. However, the car was pretty heavy...with ME and a lot of crap in the car it was pushing 2800 at the track. I figure minus the crap it probably was weighing in at about 2500 at least. I think I was running 185/60/14. I was getting about 45-47 mpg with regular mixed driving
On the other hand, the rocco couldn't weigh more than 2200 as it stands. It's pretty lean right now...no power stuff...still no bumpers. 3000 miles post swap I'm getting a solid 49-51 mph mixed city/highway/mountain driving.
Conclusion: per the math you one would NOT expect that dramatic a difference from the weight difference...but there it is ... about a 10% increase. One would thing the inferior aero of the rocco would've trumped it's weight savings with any signifcant amount of highway driving. I figured the scirocco should have the edge for local driving (less fuel consumed to accellerate the car), with the jetta winning out on the highway where aero quickly becomes paramount to everything as speeds get high.
Possible confounding factors: No EGR, no cat on the rocco (this in an '84 car); Scirocco is much lower than it even should be which might closing the aero gap between the two cars;
I think rolling resistance is probably a little better on the rocco since it's lighter and it's running 195/60/14 (not sure what brand I had before, but on size alone these should have lower rolling resistance)
Alternate explanation: No EGR, No Cat in combination with the weight savings and Decreased rolling resistance (wider tires + lighter car) may be able to explain this.
I recently changed swapped my TDI Drivetrain from a '91 Jetta into an '84 Scirocco. Here's the deal:
While it doesn't look so, the Jetta in fact has much better aerodynamics than the slippery *looking* scirocco. However, the car was pretty heavy...with ME and a lot of crap in the car it was pushing 2800 at the track. I figure minus the crap it probably was weighing in at about 2500 at least. I think I was running 185/60/14. I was getting about 45-47 mpg with regular mixed driving
On the other hand, the rocco couldn't weigh more than 2200 as it stands. It's pretty lean right now...no power stuff...still no bumpers. 3000 miles post swap I'm getting a solid 49-51 mph mixed city/highway/mountain driving.
Conclusion: per the math you one would NOT expect that dramatic a difference from the weight difference...but there it is ... about a 10% increase. One would thing the inferior aero of the rocco would've trumped it's weight savings with any signifcant amount of highway driving. I figured the scirocco should have the edge for local driving (less fuel consumed to accellerate the car), with the jetta winning out on the highway where aero quickly becomes paramount to everything as speeds get high.
Possible confounding factors: No EGR, no cat on the rocco (this in an '84 car); Scirocco is much lower than it even should be which might closing the aero gap between the two cars;
I think rolling resistance is probably a little better on the rocco since it's lighter and it's running 195/60/14 (not sure what brand I had before, but on size alone these should have lower rolling resistance)
Alternate explanation: No EGR, No Cat in combination with the weight savings and Decreased rolling resistance (wider tires + lighter car) may be able to explain this.