Recommended for ACEA C2/C3, VW AUDI 504.00/507.00, BMW Longlife-04, Porsche C30, GM dexos2™ and MB 229.31/229.51I wouldn't.
"VW 502.00/505.00/505.01"
Our cars (Mk6) require VW 507.0
So even Redline is saying it isn't being recommended by them for that standard.
Recommended does not mean VW approved. You can read anything you want in to recommended. Not sayin' the oil is bad it is just not VW approved
I pointed that out in my first post, that Redline says its recommended-not approved....
Better is a relative term. Do some research on bobistheoilguy.com and read the UOA findings. Redline uses Polyol Ester base stocks which are typically used in jet engines (and apparently work really well in motorcycles), Mobil 1 uses poly-alpha-olefin base stocks. Both are true synthetics, not the hydrocracked synthetics. So really, you would have to use both, do UOAs and let your engine tell you which is the best one for it. Sorry to give that info without really answering your question directly, but engines are fickle things and each one reacts differently to certain oils. Also, some engines are easy on oil, and some are hard on it.
Our cars (Mk6) require VW 507.0
Interesting, when I quoted it 35 minutes before the 5W30 stated EXACTLY what I quoted. Seems that Red Line managed to recertify their oil in that time.
Any chance you had clicked the 5w40 oil link? I looked at the links before I posted, both the 5w30 and 5w40.
And a "VW Approved" oil does not necessarily mean a superior oil for our TDIs in the conditions we drive. It is more of a marketing scheme in my view.
I suppose it's possible, but when I didn't see the 507.0 spec my interest was raised and I compared the certification listed on both the 5W30 and the 5W40 and they were identical. Which is what promoted my reply. I suppose it's possible, but I checked pretty closely to make sure I was looking at the 5W30 because I know the 5W40 doesn't and won't meet the 507 spec. Anyway, problem solved and as I said given Red Line's reputation I wouldn't really question that it's recommended now by Red Line for 507.0 applications even if it was initially incorrect or I just read it wrong. Now the issue is whether you would use an unapproved oil even if it is recommended. I have a little over a year before I'm out of the power train warranty, so I will consider my options about this once I'm off warranty. By them maybe it will be authorized and/or have conclusive results to show it's compliance even if the tests weren't done by VAG.
I bet SWRI did testing for Redline, too?
Probably their webmaster noticed he forgot to add it or something. A lot of boutique oils say its safe for use with certain certifications, but don't want to pay for the tests to prove it.Interesting, when I quoted it 35 minutes before the 5W30 stated EXACTLY what I quoted. Seems that Red Line managed to recertify their oil in that time.
Pretty impressive, but I find it somewhat ..... unexpected.
If it weren't for the general reputation that Red Line has my BS detector would be going off. As it is I just wonder only slightly if this was something other than an honest mistake by the web designer.
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I'm almost certain that was the case, other than a possible brain fart on my part. He probably made the one page, then copied it and modified it for the other weight oil, and later corrected a few oversights. It happens. Just found the timing to be interesting....or I just went really brain dead the other night. Anyway, it's been addressed and now we can wonder if recommended means acceptable even if not approved. I can certainly see a certain logic in that particularly if the cost of approval is overly high. But I would like to see a link to some sort of testing showing it meets those standards even if it's not from VAG.
Redline is located in California.I tried to get my hands on this oil but it's not easy. Apparently it needs to be shipped from Europe (minimum 24 cases). That puts it out of reach for me.
I added it to my cart OK, didn't try to actually check out or order it.
