DIY and advice on egr delete

[Minion]

Guys and girls,

My car has the egr tuned out but the egr is still there. I am looking to remove the egr, cooler, and the associated lines. All while I clean up the intake.

Can I make my own "delete kit"? It looks like it is just a hose and some plates to block off?

Any words of wisdom before I tackle this? How long should it take?

Thanks!

Car is an 01 golf 5 spd btw

 

[CrustyOreo]

Are you keeping the valve for the ASV function?
You're going to need block off plates (one or two depending on that above question)
A hose to go from the head to the firewall. Perhaps a straight coolant fitting
And a hose barb to remove the T that would normally go to the cooler

 

[professorxjosh]

Do most EGR delete kits allow the ASV to still function?

 

[ScottySK]

IMO, stealth race pipe, two block offs and a hose barb for coolant lines is the most prudent method. Just be aware you'll pick up a CEL.

 

[ScottySK]

Do most EGR delete kits allow the ASV to still function?

No. None do. They remove the whole EGR/ASV assembly.

 

[professorxjosh]

So that means in the event of run off emgine, BOOM? Or did I misinterprete what I've previously read on here?

 

[ScottySK]

Greater chance. ASV is there to help stop a runaway (plus key off, mash brakes and put in 5th quick on a 5spd). Without it, lose the first line of defense and only line of defense really on an auto.

 

[professorxjosh]

Greater chance. ASV is there to help stop a runaway (plus key off, mash brakes and put in 5th quick on a 5spd). Without it, lose the first line of defense and only line of defense really on an auto.

Okay gotcha. I know this is a little off topic. My EGR done for and I have it deleted via the tune, was planning to install an EGR delete kit but was weary because it disables the ASV. What does the majority suggest as far as deleting EGR via kit thus disabling ASV vs. leaving it functioning?
I know there's threads on this so if you refuse to reply ill search, haha just curious while we're talking about them.

 

[A5INKY]

Do most EGR delete kits allow the ASV to still function?

The EGR is easily deleted while retaining the ASV. I simply install a block off plate on the EGR/ASV and delete the cooler. Some prefer a "race pipe" that gets rid of both but in a stock or even mildly tuned car there will be no difference in performance.

 

[TdiNC]

Gotta keep this one. Im in the same boat. Tuned but still have the EGR. Hopefully you keep it posted, would love to hear what you ended up doing...

 

[professorxjosh]

The EGR is easily deleted while retaining the ASV. I simply install a block off plate on the EGR/ASV and delete the cooler. Some prefer a "race pipe" that gets rid of both but in a stock or even mildly tuned car there will be no difference in performance.

A5INKY, for the delete kits you install, do they disable the ASV?

 

[A5INKY]

A5INKY, for the delete kits you install, do they disable the ASV?

Never. That is unless the customer specifically requests a Race Pipe and understands the risk.

 

[professorxjosh]

Never. That is unless the customer specifically requests a Race Pipe and understands the risk.

Perfect, what I was hoping to hear. I'll definitely be having you install one within the next month no doubt.

 

[CrustyOreo]

Meh. My old Beetle had a race pipe. No problem.s

 

[Minion]

i am not opposed to installing a race pipe. Infact i will probably do it because i have a manual and can stop a runaway just by putting in 5th as stated above.

So to sum it all up i only really need to order a race pipe and i can make the rest of the stuff myself?

I can cut out some block off plates with my cutting wheel and buy a hose and the correct barb fittings from the local parts store?

 

[Minion]

oh and i will also need a intake gasket?

 

[professorxjosh]

My guess would be no. However you could just look at what an EGR kit comes with online and use that as a guide.

 

[flee]

i am not opposed to installing a race pipe. Infact i will probably do it because i have a manual and can stop a runaway just by putting in 5th as stated above.
So to sum it all up i only really need to order a race pipe and i can make the rest of the stuff myself?
I can cut out some block off plates with my cutting wheel and buy a hose and the correct barb fittings from the local parts store?

If you use a racepipe you only need 1 block-off plate for the manifold.
Use .125" or thicker steel.
'Hose-menders' will help with the coolant lines.

 

[50harleyrider]

I know you want to delete but advise checking on Malone's dynamic EGR and you'll be green, no CELs, quicker warmups and ASV remains intact. Performance and economy also don't suffer. Mark has really come up with a winner!

 

[Wankel7]

If one is retaining the ASV while doing the egr delete what size block ofttimes plate do you need? Is it the same block off for the exhaust manifold?

 

[stickman007]

Anybody got the dimensions to the block plate? I have some metal left over from other projects and want to make my own this weekend.

 

[Wankel7]

Could use an old gasket as a template...

 

[stickman007]

Want to make the plates before I start taking things apart
Have to use a friend's garage

 

[turbovan+tdi]

I just did mine, removed the EGR, buddy cut off the egr and welded a piece of pipe to the EGR flange. Cut a flange off one of the EGR tubes and welded it shut, free plate. I used the long 1/4" hose in place of the 2 smaller ones the 3 way tee, eliminated a spot to leak later on, cut the longer heater hose and connected to the stock 90 deg heater hose with a barbed brass connector.

 

[durtdzl]

That's what i did. I even used the other flange for my egt probe

 

[Wankel7]

So where is a good place to get a small plate of aluminum for the ASV block off? I tried HD and a craft store so far.

 

[durtdzl]

Cut one of the flanges off one of the pipes that are being removed and put a slug in the hole and fill it in with a weld. The Plates Are Not Aluminum. I used a nut and welded that in for a bung for my egt probe using one of those plates. Or u could make one and drill two holes in. Pretty simple.

 

[A5INKY]

Plates are easy to come by and cheap. For someone that wants to make their own for the fun of it, I don't understand why such a person would be seeking dimensional details here. Surely someone skilled enough to make a good plate is sharp enough to realize a gasket makes a good template.

 

[Wankel7]

Want to retain the egr hardware just in case I need to revert. Interested in making own because $19 plus shipping is lame

 

[turbovan+tdi]

Want to retain the egr hardware just in case I need to revert. Interested in making own because $19 plus shipping is lame

So get to your local metal mart, buy a piece of metal, grind it to the perfect dimensions if you care about looks, or just make it the same length and wide, drill 2 holes, DONE.