Your turbo names have me confused, will this work?

[bnop9001]

I found this while browsing around eBay, will this bolt directly onto an ALH, I have deleted the EGR so that wont affect my install any. All help would be appreciated. Aiming for 160-170 with appropriate mods

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-GOLF-MK4...ash=item3f630b1f42:g:LQ8AAOSwstxVdINa&vxp=mtr

 

[panthers89fan90]

Let me go ahead and stop you right there. I would NEVER buy a mechanical part for my car off eBay. An armrest? Yes, I have. It has no moving parts.

I would personally buy from one of the vendors on this forum or from the used parts section on this forum. The eBay ad mentions no returns and it's located in Europe. If there was anything wrong with the turbo, you'd be screwed. You would have to feud with them to return the turbo and also pay hefty shipping prices overseas if they finally let you.

160-170 is in the realm of a GT1749VB(VNT-17) or a VNT-17/22. Those two would match up great with your goals. But do you have the supporting mods to get there?

 

[ketchupshirt88]

the plus side of that one is all the accessories that are included there. they are worth a good chunk of the asking price

If it were the turbo alone, id say get one from IDparts for $850 or so and never have to worry if its in working order, genuine, and will have support if issues arise.

http://www.idparts.com/garrett-vnt-17-turbocharger-a4-alh-p-541.html

 

[Nevada_TDI]

You don't mention if you have a tune and nozzles lined up yet, buying a bigger Turbo alone will not help your performance.

 

[FRITS91]

Hello. I made a hybrid gtb2271v 11 MFS.nou I have a problem with it.
not inflate more than 2.3 bar.
on the track at 100 km / h 0.5 bar IMP and 2.5 bar EMP.
trying to reveal the geometry - the boost disappeared. also heard a strong surge turbine.
12mm 0.320 de143 big FMIC 1-17 cr.

 

[Mike_04GolfTDI]

Hello. I made a hybrid gtb2271v 11 MFS.nou I have a problem with it.
not inflate more than 2.3 bar.
on the track at 100 km / h 0.5 bar IMP and 2.5 bar EMP.
trying to reveal the geometry - the boost disappeared. also heard a strong surge turbine.
12mm 0.320 de143 big FMIC 1-17 cr.

Maybe your MAP sensor only reads up to 2.5 bar? The boost pressure could be higher, but the sensor won't detect it.

There are MAP sensors with different maximum pressure ranges. 2.5 is a common one, and 3.0, and 4.0, etc...

 

[FRITS91]

no.map 6 bar.can have people who have made such hybrids? I would like to ask them a few questions I y in Belarus there is no such experience.
shaft by runoff gtb2260v 777853-10 BMW. wheel Mamba 53-71 11 wings.
I see more pressure on the pressure gauge in the cabin.

 

[Premier Sprinter]

Your 53mm conpressor inducer is too big for that 45mm turbine exducer and is causing compressor surge. This is why your EMPs are high and boost pressure is low. I'm in the middle of building a similar hybrid (gt2265v) which has the same 8mm inducer-exducer spread and I made an anti-surge shroud to get around this. I milled 3" aluminum bat stock to fit snugly over the compressor inlet and then welded it and cut a map width enhancement groove. I still have to drill down to the MWE groove but I'll post some pictures anyway.

The MWE groove allows pressure which makes its way back into the conpressor to bleed off into the intake. You'll sacrifice a small amount of top end but will be able to run a larger conpressor for quick spooling without surging as long as it isn't just way too big.

 

[Premier Sprinter]

Old wheel on the table and new wheel installed with the housing cut down

Bar stock getting cut down and bored out

Pressed on, then welded (wheel in the pic is only 60mm)

Interior lathed down to the shroud

MWE groove cut - the machine work will be cleaned up before final install as I still have to contour the inlet

The final step is drilling from the interior of the shroud down into the MWE groove and then milling the shroud down at an angle to just above the compressor wheel.

 

[FRITS91]

thanks for responding
indeed due to surge turbine can not provide the desired boost?
Now I show this information to the person who gave me the turbine.
I also noticed that when you press the gas a little and quiet driving sound can be heard as the breaks of the turbine then ... sound turbulence and air movement .It also surging? cold part was wasted under the new wheel and the turbine inlet is now + 53 mm. the gap between the wheel and the walls of the cold part of the total 0.55 mm (0.3 mm + 0.25 mm to the second side, sized probes for adjusting valves)
the language barrier prevents - that is MWE?

 

[mk1-83]

I build a hybrid gtb2369 a few years ago,

52/69 11 blade comp and 51/48 turbine

spool up sucks bad full boost around 3800 2.7 bar

then i did a gtb2365 vklr 49/65 6+6 comp and 51/46 turbine go much better around 3000 rpm max boost 2.7 bar

the 11 blade comp is bad, back then i removed alot of fuel out the tune smoke free with stock 2260vk and very smokey with that gtx hybrid.

the vklr hybrid did very well around 300-320 hp.

dump that gtx comp wheel and go for a 6+6 50/68 wheel and go step bigger on turbine bmw 46/51.

youre comp wheel is to big for turbine and chock turbine side up when emp is sky high you have low power imp-emp best to go for 1:1 or 1:1,5 at spool up

mine vklr did 2.7 bar boost and 3.2 bar emp so no need to raise boost any more its out of effiency

 

[FRITS91]

and may suggest approximate dimensions?
how far from the beginning of the wing must be done groove in the housing? and a thickness of this groove should be?
I understand my body better drainage drill holes and make a groove this?
I think after that I can inflate 3 bars?)
motor going to turn up to 6,000 rpm, so that later the full boost is not terrible

 

[mk1-83]

youre still work with this turbine and comp wheel ?

drop this turbine and comp wheel and buy better one try the amg turbine wheel 48/51mm

 

[hatemi]

Yes. Your turbine is too small to spin the compressor. Not enough torque to even get it going.

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[Premier Sprinter]

It's not that the turbine is physically too small to spin the compressor, it's that the compressor is pushing more air than the turbine can process. That's what compressor surge is. Anti-surge covers, clipping turbines, free-flowing exhaust/manifolds and other things all can help to control surge. Utlimately, the best thing that you can do to deal with it is upgrade the turbine but compressor upgrades can certain help with spool-up on large turbos, thought the higher EMP/MAP ratio will decrease efficiency and turbo life.

 

[FRITS91]

that is, to the turbine earned I need to put the largest possible shaft? and this turbine will be good only for power 350+?
Well and anti Surge.
I watched parameters shafts - in shaft-gt23 gt25 blades is not high, so it seemed to me that they will miss the air, even less than the stock shaft gtb2260.

 

[mk1-83]

vw 2260 = 51/45mm
bmw 2260 = 51/46mm
amg-2359 = 51/48mm

ther is a 51/47mm turbine wheel not sure what turbo.

a rule of thumb is youre comp inducer ( 53mm) same size as exducer turbine wheel

what comes in must come out

 

[FRITS91]

I understand the biggest shaft gt15-25 turbine shaft from gt23 is AMG?
darkside in the description of the turbine shaft gtb2566 write 52-49 - this is the AMG shaft or something else that they choose more?
induser 53mm I get. anti-surge hole I almost did. I will try, but if this is not enough that the turbine would have earned as it is necessary - I will look for the large shaft
http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server3...oaded_images/turbocomparison.jpg?t=1416607281

 

[Premier Sprinter]

I have been looking around for a used turbo with the 49mm exhaust exducer but details are really hard to come by and I can't get an exact part number. I have decided to run my 2256 with the 60mm wheel and throw my 65mm wheel onto a 25 with the 49mm turbine as compounds. Info is hard to come by.

There is also a larger turbo GT2563kvl (or similar) which came from a Hino and a Toyota truck which already has a ported shroud and also has a 49mm inducer, meaning it probably has a hues turbine as well. I can't gather enough information to find out if it is actually built on a VNT15-25 frame.

 

[hatemi]

Its gt3063vkl so medium frame.
The AMG turbo is gt2559v.

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[Premier Sprinter]

This is the one which I was referring to. Thus far, the only information which I have found on it is that it has a 5.08mm compressor bore which is consistent with the VNT15-25 frame.

https://m.alibaba.com/product/60382215804/Auto-Engine-parts-GT2563KV-Turbo-for.html

 

[Premier Sprinter]

http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/applications/trucks/hino/