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WTB MK4 golf headlights Glass

ecala001

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I'm looking for mk4 golf headlights that has glass preferably the European version (ecodes?)

depo glass projectors with fogs is another option I may consider too
 

hskrdu

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Glass headlight lenses for the Golf can still be found from some vendors and ebay. Glass lenses on Hella housings are superior to Depo, and I'd suggest avoiding non-OEM headlights (OEM = Hella, Valeo, Bosch). E-Codes for the MkIV are hard to find new, but they pop up here and there on German ebay, or a search for NOS on euro sites. ECS used to have them. New ones are not cheap. Used versions sometimes pop up on the vortex. The MkIV Golf "fog" lights are much more like additional driving lights, and don't throw much low light. For driving in fog, Hella DE's or other dedicated fog lights down low are superior. HTH.
 

ecala001

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Glass headlight lenses for the Golf can still be found from some vendors and ebay. Glass lenses on Hella housings are superior to Depo, and I'd suggest avoiding non-OEM headlights (OEM = Hella, Valeo, Bosch). E-Codes for the MkIV are hard to find new, but they pop up here and there on German ebay, or a search for NOS on euro sites. ECS used to have them. New ones are not cheap. Used versions sometimes pop up on the vortex. The MkIV Golf "fog" lights are much more like additional driving lights, and don't throw much low light. For driving in fog, Hella DE's or other dedicated fog lights down low are superior. HTH.
thank you for the knowledge 🙏
 

ecala001

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Glass headlight lenses for the Golf can still be found from some vendors and ebay. Glass lenses on Hella housings are superior to Depo, and I'd suggest avoiding non-OEM headlights (OEM = Hella, Valeo, Bosch). E-Codes for the MkIV are hard to find new, but they pop up here and there on German ebay, or a search for NOS on euro sites. ECS used to have them. New ones are not cheap. Used versions sometimes pop up on the vortex. The MkIV Golf "fog" lights are much more like additional driving lights, and don't throw much low light. For driving in fog, Hella DE's or other dedicated fog lights down low are superior. HTH.
I found these but not sure if they are good

 

hskrdu

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Those are from Mike at Volx. He used to stop by here once in a while, but advertises/visits more at vwvortex. A long time ago Mike's stuff was very good, usually OE suppliers, etc. His glass lenses were superior to the Chinese versions, which often have small bubbles or imperfections. As the MkIV numbers have dwindled over time, he has had fewer items (often out of stock), and I can't speak to the quality. If he is responsive, you can reach out and ask what housings, reflectors, wiring, etc. he is using. There are lots (and lots) of great threads here on lighting for the MkIV, so this thread will never match those, but the housings you find online are often pretty good, it's the interior that really makes the difference. If it were me, I'd get only OE stuff, as said above, and I'd rather have good used Hella units than new versions of inferior headlamps. If it's cheap to buy, it's usually cheap to make. Unless you have to have E-codes, find some used lower-miles Hella GTI headlights with fogs that are in good condition and put in fresh bulbs. The wiring can even be redone with high quality kits. The E-codes really only matter if you want a sharp cut-off, or prefer the H1 high- for the Golf the other bulbs are the same (different from the Jetta/Bora).

Yes, ECS is overpriced, and yes, this is a special edition headlamp, but it provides a ballpark for (1) OE E-code nowadays:
 

KrashDH

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Glass headlight lenses for the Golf can still be found from some vendors and ebay. Glass lenses on Hella housings are superior to Depo, and I'd suggest avoiding non-OEM headlights (OEM = Hella, Valeo, Bosch). E-Codes for the MkIV are hard to find new, but they pop up here and there on German ebay, or a search for NOS on euro sites. ECS used to have them. New ones are not cheap. Used versions sometimes pop up on the vortex. The MkIV Golf "fog" lights are much more like additional driving lights, and don't throw much low light. For driving in fog, Hella DE's or other dedicated fog lights down low are superior. HTH.
I can attest though that the Depot glass lenses are higher quality than the Chinese aftermarket ones you find on eBay (even though they are likely Chinese). I bought a glass set from a reputable vendor that should have been better but they are the generic knock offs.

That being said I've had the Depot version on my last retrofit, and the aftermarket glass on my current retrofit. I haven't had issues with either, or imperfections. They do not bend the light of my projectors at all. Both are great optical clarity.

Even though the aftermarket lenses aren't as robust, they're still good.

Knowing the issues with glass though I added protection with the Lamin-X headlight lense protective film. Self heals with a little heat.
 

ecala001

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I can attest though that the Depot glass lenses are higher quality than the Chinese aftermarket ones you find on eBay (even though they are likely Chinese). I bought a glass set from a reputable vendor that should have been better but they are the generic knock offs.

That being said I've had the Depot version on my last retrofit, and the aftermarket glass on my current retrofit. I haven't had issues with either, or imperfections. They do not bend the light of my projectors at all. Both are great optical clarity.

Even though the aftermarket lenses aren't as robust, they're still good.

Knowing the issues with glass though I added protection with the Lamin-X headlight lense protective film. Self heals with a little heat.
where did you get your glass set? I see a ton on ebay and online but may just replace my current oem lenses to glass.
 

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where did you get your glass set? I see a ton on ebay and online but may just replace my current oem lenses to glass.
I would just replace the lenses with glass. The OEM housings are far superior tham any aftermarket offering in terms of quality.

I can't remember where I got them, maybe ECS tuning? I think I bought the Helix brand on sale. But really, just make sure where you buy them if they offer a grade, get "A" so there are no imperfections.
 

ecala001

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I would just replace the lenses with glass. The OEM housings are far superior tham any aftermarket offering in terms of quality.

I can't remember where I got them, maybe ECS tuning? I think I bought the Helix brand on sale. But really, just make sure where you buy them if they offer a grade, get "A" so there are no imperfections.
when you say aftermarket and quality. does that mean they tend to fail sooner or just poor light output?
 

KrashDH

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when you say aftermarket and quality. does that mean they tend to fail sooner or just poor light output?
It means the glass is lighter weight because it's not as thick. So more likely to shatter if it took a rock hit. This is an extreme example, but think of a wine glass compared to a pint glass.

I haven't had "poor output" from a glass lens that I've used and I'd know since I'm using projectors behind them. Even if there was an imperfection in the glass, if you are using them with an OEM setup with a halogen bulb, you'd never be able to tell visually.
 
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