Winter Vehicle?

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May 21, 2020
Location
Appleton, WI
TDI
2014 Sportwagen
Can’t decide 2014 VW TDI Sportwagen or 2007 Honda Fit for Wisconsin winter?

The VW has 40k on it, no rust. But the longer wheelbase would be more stable in snow. Honda Fit doesn’t have much rust either but much higher mileage, 170k. I would be buying a second set of wheels and snow tires for which ever one I go with.

Additional notes - I sit in a parking lot idling for heat for an hour at a time supervising my employees and operations. We (the wife’s truck- very protective of) also have a Nissan Frontier Pro4x that can be used during the big snow storms.
 

Lightflyer1

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Round Rock, Texas
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2015 Beetle tdi dsg
Diesels don't produce much extra heat especially idling. You may have issues due to that. Are you familiar with these cars and the dieselgate emissions situation they just came out of? Familiar with the Extended Emissions warranty? Do you do your own work or is there someone local that knows these cars/engines? They aren't for everyone but can be really nice cars for those that know them. Maybe a 12v ceramic heater would help with the idling.
 

Dannyboy

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Mb
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2014
That's a decision only you can make, naturally a gas vehicle is going to stay warmer than a tdi parked during winter. Good news is the the 2014 does come with the built in 1000w heater independent of coolant temperature. Bad news is it's not hot, just warm. And its detrimental to the engine longevity by idling for long periods especially in the cold.
Depends on how your using the vehicle, if your going to coast around town and sit idling , get the honda.
Any decent amount of highway driving get the tdi.

My 2 cents
 

IndigoBlueWagon

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'97 Passat, '99.5 Golf, '02 Jetta Wagon, '15 GSW
I would think an '07 Fit would rust away to nothing in pretty short order. In terms of snow driving, I don't think one would be any better than the other. But Lightflyer1 is right, the TDI won't do great idling for long periods of time, either in heat generation or in proper emissions system operation.
 

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Appleton, WI
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2014 Sportwagen
I am familiar with Dieselgate and it doesn’t bother me. It’s actually why I bought the TDI, I’ve wanted one for years but that caused prices to plummet so it was a great deal.

I found a local mechanic that is VW certified. Previously I did most of my own work on my vehicles.

The idling was part of my concern. I manage a shipping yard for a DC and I know the DPF filters don’t like idling.

Guess it looks like I am running the Honda or finding an old Subaru beater.
 

Andyinchville1

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Virginia
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2003 Jetta TDI wagon, 5 sp, 226K miles
I am familiar with Dieselgate and it doesn’t bother me. It’s actually why I bought the TDI, I’ve wanted one for years but that caused prices to plummet so it was a great deal.

I found a local mechanic that is VW certified. Previously I did most of my own work on my vehicles.

The idling was part of my concern. I manage a shipping yard for a DC and I know the DPF filters don’t like idling.

Guess it looks like I am running the Honda or finding an old Subaru beater.
OR buy the diesel car AND a cheap Chinese diesel fueled heater off Amazon or Ebay to heat the car ... they cost under $175

I'm looking into getting one because I sometimes do overnight courier runs and I hate waking up in the cold ( I don't run the engine overnight).

Andrew
 

jmodge

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It sounds like he already has the two vehicles, just wants opinions on which to run. I side with the anti idle crowd. Run the gasser, you'll be more comfortable and your diesel will appreciate it.
 
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