Wife too short for the Sportwagen

Funguy

Veteran Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2005
Location
Front Range of Colorado
TDI
2015 Golf Sportwagen dsg and 2015 Passat 6 M/T
I replaced my wifes dying Subaru with a 2013 sportwagen TDI (of course). I was real excited like a kid to have such a great car for her. I think I did well on the price too and it only had 12,000 miles.

Anyway she is not comfortable in the car. At 5'2" she needs a pillow to sit on or else she can't see over the steering wheel and she says if she lowers the steering wheel it blocks the gauges and computer. The headrest pushes on her hair (tied in a bun for work) and I was surprised that it doesn't pivot backwards or forwards like my MK-IV.

I am not sure that a pillow is safe and I regret that she would not be able to use the heated sit with it coverd like that. Any other shorter folks or ladies with hair buns have these issues with these cars and can offer me advice. It is kinda of taking the joy out of the whole thing for me/us.
 

Funguy

Veteran Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2005
Location
Front Range of Colorado
TDI
2015 Golf Sportwagen dsg and 2015 Passat 6 M/T
Yeah it is all the way up. I really thought that would do the trick but nope. She never drove the MKIV since it is a stick. The new one is DSG. I guess it will have to be a butt pillow. Surprised me that the headrest doesn't adjust fore and aft.
 

ATR

Top Post Dawg
Joined
Jun 18, 2005
Location
Baltimore
TDI
2011 Golf TDI 6MT
It has been my experience that cars from Asia are better suited for shorter folks. One of the primary reasons I went with my Golf was due to the fact that I can fit much better then many other cars on the road (I'm a tall guy at a bit over 6 foot). And that's coming from a 2006 Honda accord as my last car.
 

greengeeker

Vendor
Joined
Feb 8, 2006
Location
Cambridge, MN
TDI
2002 Jetta GLS
You can swap headrests from a 2007 or older mk5 jetta to solve that issue. Bummer on the height deal. Not sure there is anything that can be done. Maybe look into some other style of seat that can swap in that sits a little higher? Maybe from a Tiguan?
 

2011tdiproject

Veteran Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2013
Location
south dakota
TDI
2011 Golf
It really does take out any joy that might have been present otherwise when you don't fit properly in a car. I'm a lanky 6 or 6'1", I was driving around for a while with no headrests, they hurt my upper back so bad. I finally cut and re welded the stalks on the headrests to move them back, (posted pics of that somewhere on here). I also have the steering wheel all the way down. Otherwise I feel like I'm completely disconnected from any steering feedback, and have zero confidence with winding roads. But with the wheel all the way down, it slightly blocks the upper right part of the speedometer, so I have the MFD on mph. I really like the big digital motorcycle-like mph display, keeps me from speeding less horribly than I otherwise would. If your wife can fit with the headrests swapped and see the MFD on mph, she might be good to go.

My biggest problem with my 2dr Golf is the visibility out of it, that aspect of the car is flat out dangerous in my opinion. Set the side mirrors to show just the edge of the car, there's a blind spot sufficient to hide an entire car on each side. So you turn your head, and then all you see is headrests and the C pillar. Set them to show the adjacent lanes and they don't show anything close to the car. Horrible. Same with the view out the back/sides when backing up. All I see is headrests, and I can't turn my upper body in the seat, and I have no sightlines to keep the car straight. I hate it! I can back up a pickup towing a boat easier than this damn VW, not even joking. I doubt the JSW is as bad as the Golf 2 door, but still, how well can your wife see out the sides/back of the car?
 

IndigoBlueWagon

TDIClub Enthusiast, Principal IDParts, Vendor , w/
Joined
Aug 16, 2004
Location
South of Boston
TDI
'97 Passat, '99.5 Golf, '02 Jetta Wagon, '15 GSW
Some cars just don't fit some people. The headrest is expected, as they've lost adjustment to improve safety, putting them closer to the passenger in the seat.

And I've never liked the visibility out of my Golf compared to my MKIV wagon, especially to the rear. I bought an aspherical mirror that eliminates the blind spot, which is a big help. But parallel parking isn't easy: I end up doing the same thing my daughter does, which I call standing up in the car to see out the back.
 

Funguy

Veteran Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2005
Location
Front Range of Colorado
TDI
2015 Golf Sportwagen dsg and 2015 Passat 6 M/T
It always gives me pleasure to see the reasoning power of the members here. Some good suggestions thanks every one. I am going to consider the proposed solutions or let her just sit on a pillow and change her hair for now. The headrest swap sounds like a possibility. Maybe my MKIV headrest will fit. Lots to think about. 2011 I am bummed for you with your steering set up and the loss of feel. Sometimes it pays to be just 5' 8" like me
 
Last edited:

ATR

Top Post Dawg
Joined
Jun 18, 2005
Location
Baltimore
TDI
2011 Golf TDI 6MT
It really does take out any joy that might have been present otherwise when you don't fit properly in a car. I'm a lanky 6 or 6'1", I was driving around for a while with no headrests, they hurt my upper back so bad. I finally cut and re welded the stalks on the headrests to move them back, (posted pics of that somewhere on here). I also have the steering wheel all the way down. Otherwise I feel like I'm completely disconnected from any steering feedback, and have zero confidence with winding roads. But with the wheel all the way down, it slightly blocks the upper right part of the speedometer, so I have the MFD on mph. I really like the big digital motorcycle-like mph display, keeps me from speeding less horribly than I otherwise would. If your wife can fit with the headrests swapped and see the MFD on mph, she might be good to go.

My biggest problem with my 2dr Golf is the visibility out of it, that aspect of the car is flat out dangerous in my opinion. Set the side mirrors to show just the edge of the car, there's a blind spot sufficient to hide an entire car on each side. So you turn your head, and then all you see is headrests and the C pillar. Set them to show the adjacent lanes and they don't show anything close to the car. Horrible. Same with the view out the back/sides when backing up. All I see is headrests, and I can't turn my upper body in the seat, and I have no sightlines to keep the car straight. I hate it! I can back up a pickup towing a boat easier than this damn VW, not even joking. I doubt the JSW is as bad as the Golf 2 door, but still, how well can your wife see out the sides/back of the car?
For the visibility out of the sides I bought these from ecs shortly after buying my car:
http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VI--TDI/Exterior/Mirrors/ES1892098/

They helped ton!
 

skromfols

Veteran Member
Joined
Dec 26, 2010
Location
Valley Springs
TDI
2017 Jaguar XE TDI, 2014 Sportwagen TDI
I found the head rests were a significant impediment when looking for cross traffic at some intersections, so I removed them. It made a real difference
 

LaTuFu

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 28, 2014
Location
Virginia
TDI
2010 JSW, 2005 Passat Wagon BHW
I haven't owned a Jetta for 10 years, I had forgotten how low they are from a seating perspective. Even my Passats felt "higher" in the cabin, and certainly were much easier to get in and out of for me. Either that, or I really am getting a lot older than I thought and it is just more difficult for me to get in and out of cars.

Another possibility would be to see if you can get a Tiggy seat or a Passat seat to slide in for her on the Driver's side. Or, maybe have the driver's seat removed, and have a welder increase the height of the seat with some spacers? Not sure how this would affect the seat's integrity in the event of a collision, but if that could be done without sacrificing her safety, that might be an option. It would certainly seem to be a safer option than a pillow.
 

Graham Line

Veteran Member
Joined
Apr 18, 2012
Location
Pacific Northwest
TDI
'12 Golf TDI 6M
If she is the sole driver of the car, you could fabricate spacers to raise the overall seat cushion height. Might be enough downward adjustment to accommodate others.
 

murphyslaw

Veteran Member
Joined
Mar 31, 2014
Location
Alaska
TDI
'14 TDI JSW/Sunroof/Nav/Man
My wife is 5'4" and fits my '14 JSW. But she jacks the seat up, moved way forward. She is used to driving her Jeep thou. And is likely used to having to reach a little to make things work. She does not lower the wheel thou. She usually raises it up a tad so she can sit closer to the wheel with out it rubbing her legs or impeding the gauge view.
 

ATR

Top Post Dawg
Joined
Jun 18, 2005
Location
Baltimore
TDI
2011 Golf TDI 6MT
I found the head rests were a significant impediment when looking for cross traffic at some intersections, so I removed them. It made a real difference
God forbid you ever getting rear ended!

For folks who think the headrest is uncomfortable try adjusting the seat back to a position to the point where the headrest just touches the back of your head. I found that when adjusted this way the seat is quite comfortable even on 3-4 hour Road trips.

Here's a good video on this topic with some tips near the end of the video.
http://www.velocity.com/tv-shows/fifth-gear/videos/preventing-whiplash/
 

dnslater

Active member
Joined
Jan 29, 2015
Location
Indianapolis
TDI
2013 Sportwagen TDI
Amazon has a whole slew of Adult booster cushions for cars. I also like the other users suggestion about raising the seat. Surely it wouldn't be hard to add shim's beneath the seat to raise the entire assembly a few inches.
 

TDIAustin

Veteran Member
Joined
Mar 19, 2013
Location
Austin, TX
TDI
2011 JSW, MT, Red/Cornsilk
My wife is 5' 4" as well and has no problem whatsoever. She raises the seat up of course but not all the way. Rather than a pillow, I would try one of those thick pads or seat spacers, whatever they are called. Some are made for circulation and so constructed of a straw or wicker like material that might provide a firm seating.

And perhaps solving the hair problem might give her a different perspective when looking at the dash so she can better adjust the steering wheel.

Just some thoughts, good luck.
 

Funguy

Veteran Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2005
Location
Front Range of Colorado
TDI
2015 Golf Sportwagen dsg and 2015 Passat 6 M/T
A lot of very good suggestions. I think for now at least we will go with a seat cushion and she will do her best to adjust the seat for her hair. I am also considering getting her a different car and keeping that nice sportwagon for me. Now that would be a win win except for the bank account!
 

smosh

Active member
Joined
May 28, 2010
Location
Maine
TDI
2010 Golf TDI, 2012 JSW TDI
My wife is also 5'2" (and a half, as she reminds me) and she's had no problem in her JSW. She's close enough and high enough and far enough. It should adjust to a good place for your wife.

i even find i can use her setting for shorter trips (i'm 6'), but longer ones i simply move hte seat back. Mirrors are another thing... :)
 

VeeDubTDI

Wanderluster, Traveler, TDIClub Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 2, 2000
Location
Springfield, VA
TDI
‘18 Tesla Model 3D+, ‘14 Cadillac ELR, ‘13 Fiat 500e
Try removing the seat and shimming it up higher with washers between the body and the seat frame. You may need to use longer bolts.
 

whitedog

Veteran Member
Joined
Jul 12, 2004
Location
Bend, Oregon
TDI
2004 Jetta that I fill by myself
I figured out what has been bothering me about the tread title. I keep reading it as "Life too short..."
 

VeeDubTDI

Wanderluster, Traveler, TDIClub Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 2, 2000
Location
Springfield, VA
TDI
‘18 Tesla Model 3D+, ‘14 Cadillac ELR, ‘13 Fiat 500e
I figured out what has been bothering me about the tread title. I keep reading it as "Life too short..."

That's true, too. Go on a road trip and see/experience something! :)
 

Funguy

Veteran Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2005
Location
Front Range of Colorado
TDI
2015 Golf Sportwagen dsg and 2015 Passat 6 M/T
My wife is also 5'2" (and a half, as she reminds me) and she's had no problem in her JSW. She's close enough and high enough and far enough. It should adjust to a good place for your wife.

i even find i can use her setting for shorter trips (i'm 6'), but longer ones i simply move hte seat back. Mirrors are another thing... :)
I guess that half inch makes all the difference to fit in the car;). I am only 5'8" and I also use the car after my wife for short trips but sometimes I forget and hit my head and knees getting into it.
 

Funguy

Veteran Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2005
Location
Front Range of Colorado
TDI
2015 Golf Sportwagen dsg and 2015 Passat 6 M/T
How attached are you to your wife? It might be time for a new model, perhaps one that's a bit taller? ;)
No way bro. Best thing I ever did was marry her. Besides if she really hates the car I may have to take it off her hands and keep it for myself!
 

Funguy

Veteran Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2005
Location
Front Range of Colorado
TDI
2015 Golf Sportwagen dsg and 2015 Passat 6 M/T
VeeDub I am a little nervous about messing with those bolts but I am going to give it a look when warmer weather arrives. Tnx
 

dubStrom

Veteran Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2007
Location
Kansas City Missouri
TDI
2003 A4 Jetta (sold), 2010 JSW (sold), 2013 Passat 6MT traded for 2014 JSW with 6MT-TOTALED in November 2016, 2003 ALH 5MT conversion (sold), wheezing 2015 GSW/DSG and a new 2021 Tacoma Access Cab 4x4 p'up
The booster cushion idea struck me right away. You can get a couple of inches from a cheap flowered dining room table chair booster. They are wide enough to roll in on the car seat bolsters for additional lateral support too. We use them on wooden chairs as pads, and it boosts the kids up too.
 

ericy

Veteran Member
Joined
Aug 24, 2004
Location
Rehoboth Beach, DE
TDI
2015 Golf TDI (wife's car)
Anyway she is not comfortable in the car. At 5'2" she needs a pillow to sit on or else she can't see over the steering wheel and she says if she lowers the steering wheel it blocks the gauges and computer. The headrest pushes on her hair (tied in a bun for work) and I was surprised that it doesn't pivot backwards or forwards like my MK-IV.
For what it is worth, my wife is 5'2" and she is as happy as a clam with her 2015 Golf. She tolerates my 2014 JSW (her main complaint is that she doesn't like the radio as much as in the 2015 - nothing to do with the seats).

For her, pumping the seat is the starting point, and adjusting the steering wheel certainly. But she doesn't wear her hair in a bun, so that's one difference. The salesman mentioned that some people remove the headrest and put it in backwards so that it doesn't push on the hair.
 

Funguy

Veteran Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2005
Location
Front Range of Colorado
TDI
2015 Golf Sportwagen dsg and 2015 Passat 6 M/T
That is something I can try, headrest backwards. Thanks. I think my wife is getting used to the car now and the pillow is working for height. Takes her awhile to warm up to a new set of wheels. She does say that it corners nicely. I am surprised she noticed since she drives so gently.
 
Top