What's gonna go down on Tuesday?

[newbeetleman]

bottom of the page

http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/crb/vwmdl/proposed-settlement#Owners

thank you

 

[MVJetta]

https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/att._1a_-_buyback_modification_table.pdf

Looking at this. I'm at $20147

Uh oh. I didn't account for mileage. Ouch

 

[petteri]

What about vehicle condition? I don't see that mentioned anywhere. Is that not a concern since the buyback cars are going to be scrapped?

 

[Jimmy Coconuts]

Jimmy - where did you get the data to know this? Please provide source. Thx j

http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/crb/vwmdl/proposed-settlement#Fees

 

[pkhoury]

the docs are available


http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/crb/vwmdl/proposed-settlement

If this is the final offer, I think it's crap.

 

[flyanddive]

What about vehicle condition? I don't see that mentioned anywhere. Is that not a concern since the buyback cars are going to be scrapped?

I think it's only based on mileage. At least that's all I can find.

 

[autdi]

Class Members who choose an Approved Emissions Modification will receive disclosures about the effects of the modification on performance and durability, an Extended Emissions Warranty, and a Lemon Law-type remedy that covers the Approved Emissions Modification.

Lacking in detail what that extended warranty is, but at least it was in there.

 

[Claudio]

http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/crb/vwmdl/proposed-settlement#Owners

bottom of the page for details

 

[2015vwgolfdiesel]

Buy backs at $12,500 MIN ~ $44,000 MAX

Buy backs start in October

One other thing

(IF) I were to offer it for sale, before October, the price just increased ~~ some.

Figure my car will be evaluated high.

EXCEPT that my 2015 DSG Silver TDI is a relative cheap MRSP compared t the high dollar MSRP VW stock.

Figure the VW formula evaluation for me (might) be as high as $22,000 to $28,000

VW Golf Hatchback 4D TDI S ~ $21,806 - $26,700 ~~ $6,123 - $6,939


Will know more soon enough

 

[faultymechanics]

SO I'm a little confused.

I have a 2015 Jetta TDI SEL which was fully loaded with all the options. I have almost 30k on the car now. I paid about 32k out the door because I bought a extended warranty. Am I going to be compensated for the warranty I wasn't even able to use a quarter of?

I have paid off about 3k of the car, how should I expect this to work. Will they just not give me any cash back and just take the car back?

I'm financed through VW, will I then get the extra cash after, minus my 30k mileage? This is bull**** because the longer they make this take the less they have to give us.


OR am I incorrect and mileage is based on our mileage from September, before the incident?

 

[flyanddive]

If this is the final offer, I think it's crap.

Now comes the decision to gamble on the fix. IF VW can't come up with one, the compensation package is going to be much larger. That's why I've been saying the buyback is going to look enticing to most who have more than 50K miles on the car.

 

[autdi]

I think it's only based on mileage. At least that's all I can find.

Subjective good, excellent, poor applied to the car will get more challenges, the point of the settlement is to not fight each one by one. Mileage, that's an objective number on the screen, not really open to interpretation.

 

[phrinda]

If this is the final offer, I think it's crap.

If they are possibly going to give me all but 5k that I spent on the car 5 years and 60K miles ago, I think that I will be coming out of this ok.

 

[14PassatTDISE]

Oh - the mileage adjustment is BAD!

Basically they are assuming that you only drove 1042 miles / month for each month after Aug 2015, and the remainder is assumed to have been driven till then.

That would be TERRIBLE for people who drive their cars a lot and drive down the value.

Adjusted value sheet for Passat here:

https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/att._2c_-_passat_and_a3_mileage_table.pdf

Ouch, this mileage adjustment is def a kick in the teeth. How do we public-comment on this issue?

 

[BigWorm]

Weird I entered my Vin number on that site and it said my car is not eligible for the buy back. Maybe because it's registered in Canada?

Does anyone have a ball park figure for a 2012 fully loaded with tech pack 2012 passat with about 150.000 kilometers? Please and thx

 

[bizzle]

The mileage depreciation isn't terrible. The figures aren't coming from thin air--they had hundreds of thousands of data points to hone in on a representative average.

 

[ibsam2005]

Where can I see the mileage adjustment for my '11 JSW?

 

[bizzle]

Keep refreshing, the page hasn't uploaded yet.

You're looking for attachment 2a-2c

 

[autdi]

SO I'm a little confused.

I have a 2015 Jetta TDI SEL which was fully loaded with all the options. I have almost 30k on the car now. I paid about 32k out the door because I bought a extended warranty. Am I going to be compensated for the warranty I wasn't even able to use a quarter of?

I have paid off about 3k of the car, how should I expect this to work. Will they just not give me any cash back and just take the car back?

I'm financed through VW, will I then get the extra cash after, minus my 30k mileage? This is bull**** because the longer they make this take the less they have to give us.


OR am I incorrect and mileage is based on our mileage from September, before the incident?

Mileage is from today, less 1042 a month between now and last Sept.

You start from a base buyback of $28006 30k miles less 10420 (10 months) put you in the -270 mileage bin, so the buyback price would
be $27736. Manual -900 alloy wheels +400.

Drive less than 1042 miles a month, and the buyback price goes up over time, drive more, it goes down over time.

 

[phrinda]

Based on the mileage chart, if I can keep the miles below 3000 for the next ~3 months i'll get another $930!

 

[swampyankee]

The "$12,500 - $44,000" buyback plus compensation sounds like a pretty good deal to me... just wondering how exactly they'll pinpoint what each owner is getting. I've got a '13 Jetta so it's one of the newer vehicles, but I've also got relatively high mileage.. about 87K right now.

http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/crb/vwmdl/proposed-settlement#Owners

here

less mileage deduction

https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/att._2c_-_passat_and_a3_mileage_table.pdf

 

[swampyankee]

Mileage is from today, less 1042 a month between now and last Sept.

You start from a base buyback of $28006 30k miles less 10420 (10 months) put you in the -270 mileage bin, so the buyback price would
be $27736. Manual -900 alloy wheels +400.

Drive less than 1042 miles a month, and the buyback price goes up over time, drive more, it goes down over time.

haha I'm already in the process of having mine stored

 

[rico227]

Looking for the mileage adjustment sheet for Jetta.. where'd you guys get that?

 

[allride]

Buyback sounds ok for me, about $28,000 after milage deduction. No mention of 2016's TDI being sold. I'd consider buyback/purchase of 2016/17 TDI.

 

[bubbagumpshrimp]

A new fully loaded Audi A3 TDI, and at $44K only, the owner might be getting screwed.

Ah. You're right. I was sitting there thinking "that's a lot of money for a Passat TDI SEL," lol.

 

[pkhoury]

Where can I see the mileage adjustment for my '11 JSW?

You need to look at Attachment 2B and calculate. Like for my Sportwagen, it says take the number of months since September 2015 and multiply by 1024. So right now, figuring for July, that's 10 months. 10 * 1024 = 10240. You'd subtract that from however many miles you have on your TDI, and you get your adjusted mileage. I'm at almost 167000, so that would leave me at 156,760. Looking through the table, for my model year (2010), that leaves me with a mileage adjustment of -$3780 on the buyback and -$630 if I did the fix.

 

[drshaws]

Based on the mileage chart, if I can keep the miles below 3000 for the next ~3 months i'll get another $930!

Yep - my wife is immediately going to cease commuting in the JSW. We're at 36500 and there's no way I want it to creep over the 40K threshold to knock down our mileage depreciation any more (Her commute is 40 miles daily, mine is 8). I don't think we'd lose the difference in fuel costs at this point.

It will be somewhat sad - I've loved TDI club since I had my '98 Jetta TDI. But soon I won't have a reason to visit.

 

[autdi]

Looking for the mileage adjustment sheet for Jetta.. where'd you guys get that?

Hold on, that's the A3 and passat link

 

[MVJetta]

Waiting for the Jetta attachment

 

[faultymechanics]

Mileage is from today, less 1042 a month between now and last Sept.

You start from a base buyback of $28006 30k miles less 10420 (10 months) put you in the -270 mileage bin, so the buyback price would
be $27736. Manual -900 alloy wheels +400.

Drive less than 1042 miles a month, and the buyback price goes up over time, drive more, it goes down over time.

Wait so I'm going to possibly owe them money to have them buy my vehicle back? That's bull....and I don't get extra cash for having the lighting package and spending several thousand extra?

Where are you guys finding the specifics on this? Everything is super scattered.