What's a good price?

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MedicPatriot

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I have never purchased a new car. I am thinking about a new 2013 Jetta TDI w/DSG BASE (I have no need for sunroof, etc). I think sticker was around $25,000. I have had tips about bargain and such, but what really is a fair price to pay for one of these? Also how about some tips on what price totry and negotiate for?

All tips are welcome.

Thanks!
 
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i saw base but with manual for $20,500 so with dsg would be around 21,0-21,5K i suppose
 
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MedicPatriot said:
I have never purchased a new car. I am thinking about a new 2013 Jetta TDI w/DSG BASE (I have no need for sunroof, etc). I think sticker was around $25,000. I have had tips about bargain and such, but what really is a fair price to pay for one of these? Also how about some tips on what price totry and negotiate for?

All tips are welcome.

Thanks!
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I'd talk to this guy if I were you. :)
 
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MedicPatriot said:
I have never purchased a new car. I am thinking about a new 2013 Jetta TDI w/DSG BASE (I have no need for sunroof, etc). I think sticker was around $25,000. I have had tips about bargain and such, but what really is a fair price to pay for one of these? Also how about some tips on what price totry and negotiate for?
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Invoice is about $23,100. Current incentives are a choice of (i) $500 bonus cash plus 0.9% financing, or (ii) $1,500 dealer cash. (Those incentives expire today, so check Edmunds in a few days and see if they're renewed or maybe even increased) But let's assume you pick the $1,500 dealer cash, then your starting point is $21,600.

I'd offer about $1,000 below (maybe $20,500) and see what responses you get. If everyone tells you "no", you can always increase that, but I think someone will talk turkey with you.
 
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So offer around thay but everyone seems to say $21,500 is a fair price right? Also, what would you all say is too high to be fair? I'm thinking no more then $22,000.

One more thing. What are the chances of getting the dealer to throw in different rims? I don't want anyhing upgraded...I strictly want the color black for rims. I want the platinum gray paint and I think black rims would be great with that.
 
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MedicPatriot said:
So offer around thay but everyone seems to say $21,500 is a fair price right? Also, what would you all say is too high to be fair? I'm thinking no more then $22,000.
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I wouldn't offer Invoice (which I said is $23,100 - $1,500 = $21,600). I would offer ~$1,000 under Invoice, i.e., $20,500.

One more thing. What are the chances of getting the dealer to throw in different rims? I don't want anyhing upgraded...I strictly want the color black for rims. I want the platinum gray paint and I think black rims would be great with that.
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You may have a hard time with that. Give it a try, nothing to lose, but don't be surprised if you're not successful.
 
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Sigh...paid just over $26.5k OTD in Canada :eek:
And thats just a bit over invoice as well :(
 
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MedicPatriot said:
I'm not entirely sure what invoice price actually means.
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Theoretically, it means dealer cost. In the real world, it doesn't mean that at all. True dealer cost is well below "Invoice" for a variety of reasons.

Take a look at the Edmunds website. They provide Invoice numbers for all cars. While you're there, also check Incentives and Rebates. As I mentioned, a few of the incentives expired 7/8/13, but there should be new ones coming out any day now.
 
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I'm about to buy a new one if the price is right, and it would make me feel better if you guys took a look at the price before I pulled the trigger.

Someone gave me a dealer that apparently gives realistic price quotes the first time. See what you think:

Best quote so far:
2013 Jetta TDI w/DSG Platinum Grey BASE model
NO add-ons (no mats, no first aid kit, no alarm kit, etc)
$21,419 (including freight)
+$199 dealer fee, taxes, tags, etc
$23,211 out the door including taxes etc
of course I will probably add a thing or two on..

I'm going around to all dealers and seeing who can do the best, so this price should get lower. I'm just curious if I'm starting at a fair deal or not.
 
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Update:

I finally bought one.

2013 Jetta TDI w/ DSG and "free" monster mats. Platinum Grey.
$20,832 for the car
$22,616 out the door

I'm satisfied with that price. Thanks to everyone here who gave advice. I'm glad I'm in the TDI club now. Pics to come later.
 
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2013 Jetta TDI $25.4k out the door, DSG, Premium, NAV, mats, and alarm. Of course, that was before I got the 7yr/100k Platinum Warranty ($0 deductible) and Ding Monkey...ended up being $28k flat out the door.
 
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Check out truecar dot com

Also, the VW of Langhorne offers in the cars for sale topic on this site. That is where I bought and saved a bundle compared to my local dealer.
 
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k1xv said:
Check out truecar dot com
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Truecar is not accurate. If you pay their "average" price, you paid way too much.

I suppose it's accurate in the sense that you want to be paying in the lowest 10%.
 
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Why would you pay the "average" price if you were looking for a "good" price? I would use the price they claim they can get you a car for. And their prices will differ by geography.
 
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You will always find a "better" price after you pull the trigger....it never fails. I think the important thing is you chose wisely, you sound happy, and you didn't pay full MSRP.

Congratulations on your new car!

MedicPatriot said:
Update:

I finally bought one.

2013 Jetta TDI w/ DSG and "free" monster mats. Platinum Grey.
$20,832 for the car
$22,616 out the door

I'm satisfied with that price. Thanks to everyone here who gave advice. I'm glad I'm in the TDI club now. Pics to come later.
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