What snow tires do you guys use?

gord273

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See, I understand what you guys are saying but the age old recommendation for winter tires is to get narrower tires than stock so they cut through the snow more. If you go and get narrower tires but then run them so low they're just as wide as your stock/summer tires then what's the point?

The recommended tire pressure for my MK4 Jetta is 35/42. Me doing 40/42 is right in line with that. Plus as I said, I filled up at ~12c. I believe the rule of thumb is something like 1psi for +/-5c. Even at 40/42 they still look "flat" to me.

On my summer tires I typically run 37/39 when filling to account for them heating up during the drive. I put about 18k on my brand new Pilot Super Sports this past summer and rotated them twice during that time. The wear difference per tire and across the tread pattern is imperceptible.

I ALWAYS run my cars at around stock recommendation. I ALWAYS account for PSI changes with temperature when I inflate my tires. I've never had a problem with uneven tire wear. In fact, tire wear, side to side, is always super even. Obviously fronts wear faster than rears.

Logically, the way I understand tire wear, the only thing you guys are doing by running such low pressure is slightly decreasing your fuel economy. Though in theory your dry road/ice traction should be a bit better the same as my deep snow traction would be slightly better. I drive to a cottage in winter on snowy back roads so this is most important to me. Plus I can always lower pressure when out on the road if necessary but it's a lot harder to increase pressure. However, for most conditions any of us will experience we're probably splitting hairs here.
 
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Abacus

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Who says to air them down? Keep them at the recommended pressure just like all the tires. If the tire is aired up too much, it won't bite properly as discussed previously. No one is recommending running them at below the proper pressure.
 

imo000

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Most tire manufacturers have their own tire pressure specs so don't start going by what the fuel door sticker says. That's not the proper tire pressure. As I said before, I have been keeping all my tires.at 36psi, for 25 years and it seved me well. Also, had cars with narrow tires that were excellent in the snow. It was common knowledge to try going one size narrower for winter tires.
 

Abacus

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If you want to get technical, you should find your own air pressure by following the method described on here in the past, but the fuel door is a whole lot closer than the manufacturer of the tires, which is why they only put a maximum on the tires.

I have yet to have an issue running the fuel door pressure, which takes into account the weight of the car and, more importantly, the weight bias.
 

imo000

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If you want to get technical, you should find your own air pressure by following the method described on here in the past, but the fuel door is a whole lot closer than the manufacturer of the tires, which is why they only put a maximum on the tires.

I have yet to have an issue running the fuel door pressure, which takes into account the weight of the car and, more importantly, the weight bias.

Fair enough.
 

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On my MK3 it mentions half load and full load specs. I usually set them at half load which is 31 front 30 rear I believe. I don't even know what they mean by half/full load anyhow...
 

j_martell

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how close to you GVWR are you? loaded with passengers and luggage etc would be full load....just you and a friend on a day trip would be half load
 

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If you want to get technical, you should find your own air pressure by following the method described on here in the past, but the fuel door is a whole lot closer than the manufacturer of the tires, which is why they only put a maximum on the tires.

I have yet to have an issue running the fuel door pressure, which takes into account the weight of the car and, more importantly, the weight bias.
Coming to think about it, I used the recommended half load tire psi on my mk3, and noticed that my front tires were wearing out on the outer edges faster then the middle. I think the recommendation is 33psi front and 31 rear. I just had my toyo winter tires put on and haven't checked what the shop set them too, and am unsure if I should use the recommendation pressure since I noticed what I did with my cheapo all-seasons.
 

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I've had General tire altimax, Xice, and Continental. Continental is the best tire by far. They are quiet, can be pushed HARD in dry/wet, and are on par with X-ice in the snow and ice. General tire spin a bit more as they wear (3rd season) on acceleration but other than that hold up really good as well. They do get noisy as they wear though. I would take continental because of the edge on handling vs x-ice, but only if price is the same. On a budget, General tire is very grippy and well worth the cash. You will get one more year from the x-ice and continental though.
 

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Continental are nice tires, never tried them because they don't make my size; however I would have been tempted to give them a wirl as well as Nokian's. On a note, I tested my Toyo Observe GSI-5 in deep snow slow fast speeds in forward/reverse and the tires handled and gripped very well. I hope they stay like this even as the tread wears down. The design of the toyo look really good compared to Yokohoma and Michelin. So far I would give it 5 stars, my car is front wheel drive so it will never handle like a all wheel or a car with traction control but I am surprised how well they were working today :) I didn't even have to try to avoid getting stuck or anything. One thing I look at in tires is how deep the tread is when new, a lot of snow tires like the Hankooks are about 10, 11 32nds. The Toyo are 13 :)
 

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Michelin Pilot Alpin.

No issues in my RWD 335d on OE 17's.

Quiet, smooth, amazing grip on snow/ice. The only downside is that they are a tad on the expensive side...
 

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goodyear nordic winters, noisy as hell but whatever, got them for cheap with good tred.
I ran those for the last couple winters and always hated switching to them because the rumble they made was so loud. But overall decent tire for cheap and they saved my ass more than a couple times.

I bought new tires from VW dealer with my new Jetta, bought the 15" Gislaved Norfrost 10 set and when I got home noticed they messed up and put the 16" Continental Extreme Winter Contacts (no complaints on my part).

Conti are almost as quiet as the stock all seasons (also Conti tires) and so far on dry and icy roads grip has been superb. Not enough snow to yet to judge the difference there.

Are they worth the extra $$ for Conti vs Goodyear? If you have the money and want to spend it on the better tires, go for it. If you don't have it, get the cheaper ones. Either way they are still better than all seasons.
 

j_martell

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we got some snow here today, and i got to "test" my new (used) Toyo ObserveG-02+...most exelent, but going from all seasons to ANY snow would be impressive lol....

my buddy Nick has the same tires on his recently aquired 2000 Jetta ALH 5 speed and also has no complaints.....
 

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We just picked up an '02 Golf for my son, complete with new snows. So now in 195/65-15 size I have:

  • Michelin X-Ice on my '12 Golf
  • Conti Extreme Winter Contact for my wagon (going on tomorrow)
  • Firestone Winterforce on the '02 Golf
  • Spare set of Altimax Artics
The Altimaxes will probably go on the wagon after the Contis wear out.

I'm interested in driving the Altimax Artics and Winterforces back-to-back to see which one is better in a fresh snowfall. The Firestones are pretty squishy in the dry.
 

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-BFG winter slalom on my dodge GC, work well

-Michelin X-Ice on my Audi Allroad, no issues, low noise and handle 180km/h+ no prob

-Goodyear Wrangler ATS on my Silverado(used all year round), 6 years & 150K of highway/trail/offroad abuse, no issues.

Why do I use these, dodge set-good deal on kijiji, audi came with winter set, Silverado came with these from factory.
Point is any winter rated tire is awesome compared to summer/all season.
 

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Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3. Sucks that they're run flats but no need to be a hero in the winter. They're loud but then again it doesn't help with all the suspension work that I've done.
 

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I'm using X-Ice 3 this year. Got them on sale at CT last year for $75 each. They're pretty good, about the same as the Pirelli Winter Carvings I used before.
 

glick

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We finally got enough snow here in KW to get a good judge of the Conti ExtremeWinterContacts in snow/slush.

Really good grip/control and ability to cut through the slop to finally get enough traction to get moving.
 

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anyone had hakka r that have moved on to hakka r2? on my 4th & last winter w/my hakka r's & I can't decide weather to make the switch or try the Russian-made Hercules gr2 which is the hakka r clone(molds prob sold by nokian ). my Russian entyres proved to be a disaster late in their life so I might be expressing some reservation due to this experience.
 

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Avoid Barum Polaris 3. Car came with them and they are total garbage. Terrible tire wear and terrible performance. Thankfully they won't last beyond this season and I can get new ones next year.
My wife has those Barum Polaris 3's on her Q7 TDI. They seem decent, not the most aggressive tread, but quiet. Decent tire wear (and the q7 can eat tires). I've only driven her vehicle a few times this winter.

Currently I've got some Winterforce tires that came on OEM alloy rims on my 2006 Jetta TDI right now. I find they drone a little more than I'd like. OK grip. I drive through Listowel and Wingham for work, so I do see a lot of snow, frozen roads this time of year.

I'm thinking about paying a premium on a more expensive tire next year. I spend about 8hrs in the car a week. The drone is a bit annoying.

I've had Hankook Ice Pike, early blizzaks, early Michelin alpins, Toyo Observ's in the past 20 yrs of winter commuting in the snow belt. I've had luck with buying some of them used as well. My wife's q7 was originally from Nfld, it came with a set of studded cooper winter tires.... Holy Cow, they were loud.
 

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anyone had hakka r that have moved on to hakka r2? on my 4th & last winter w/my hakka r's & I can't decide weather to make the switch or try the Russian-made Hercules gr2 which is the hakka r clone(molds prob sold by nokian ). my Russian entyres proved to be a disaster late in their life so I might be expressing some reservation due to this experience.
I switched to r2's from r's last year....noticed no difference except my r2's seemed to wear faster.....could also be the fault of my new injectors and tune.....:D

I would still buy r2's again....quiet, smooth and invincible......especially with a lsd.
 

REDNECKDZL

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2015 jetta has conti's on it, they have been awesome so far

ran gislaved before and quite happy with them to, i'd take a crappy winter tire though over a great all season any day
 

Savageman69

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lol thanks, my drive is usually like this as i travel well before the plows...and figured id see how the dash cam footage came out. Thats likely the deepest and longest drifts ive had to push threw and frankly didnt think i was gonna make it...before these i had small stretches that were similar at that point knowing i was only 5 mins from work i had one of two options slow down and get stuck for sure....or hammer down and pray lol, i was going pretty quick and got lucky all at the same time.
 
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