What Motivates You To Take Your Buy Back Sooner?.

[MKVI_TDI]

DPF filter was going bad and VW didn't want to cover it. So screw them take it back.

 

[Stumiester]

If I am going to drive a car to 435K I want it to be one that has parts available for it. why I bought the TDI in the first place. BUT since most of these cars are going back, they will not be available at the junkyard for parts. The parts cost too much from the dealer. so if they had said mileage will stay the same but performance will suffer in the fix, I might have decided to keep the car. I like it. but the only wording I have heard is the mileage and performance may suffer if you choose the fix. then they say they won't fix my 2010 anyway. So I will be going hybrid for the mileage, and not a VW. I have owned many many vw's over the years, and while they usually run there is often issues that other cars don't have. relays come to mind from my mk 1 jetta.

 

[grawk]

If I am going to drive a car to 435K I want it to be one that has parts available for it. why I bought the TDI in the first place. BUT since most of these cars are going back, they will not be available at the junkyard for parts. The parts cost too much from the dealer. so if they had said mileage will stay the same but performance will suffer in the fix, I might have decided to keep the car. I like it. but the only wording I have heard is the mileage and performance may suffer if you choose the fix. then they say they won't fix my 2010 anyway. So I will be going hybrid for the mileage, and not a VW. I have owned many many vw's over the years, and while they usually run there is often issues that other cars don't have. relays come to mind from my mk 1 jetta.

Where do you think the cars being sold back are going that parts won't be available from junk yards? If your intention is to drive a car for 400k miles, I can't imagine a better choice than these TDIs, after the fix.

 

[chasfos]

Where do you think the cars being sold back are going that parts won't be available from junk yards? If your intention is to drive a car for 400k miles, I can't imagine a better choice than these TDIs, after the fix.[/

If I owned a scrap yard I would not hold on to these vehicles. Simple economics, no/limited vehicles on the road equals no/limited market for used parts. They would be crushed for scrap. They are buying back 85% this will leave but a few thousand on the road. I think it's the crusher for vehicles in group three (see below) since they can't be exported unless repaired. Maybe stripped and parts exported if there is a market but I don't see any USA used parts market.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news...di-diesel-buyback-cars-its-not-what-you-think

 

[bubbagumpshrimp]

There's nothing wrong with my car, as far as I'm concerned. There's just a lot that I don't like about it. ex. Manual transmission (I picked up a $h1tty/congested/lengthy commute two years after I bought it).

Edit: If I hadn't been a cheapskate and went with an automatic Passat TDI (I want something with a LOT more interior space than my Jetta)...I might have considered hanging onto it.

 

[SOCALGAL]

Loved our TDi's but we are done. I'm over it worrying about the damn mileage, if it gets hit or stolen. Our Jetta sedan went back already early Dec and the JSW goes back Feb 2. JSW has had the service car light on for over 2 months and it needs new tires. Why am I in a rush? Because I'm getting a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara and I can hardly stinkin' wait!

 

[Jimbo70]

We bought our Passat in 2013 with the intention of keeping it for the long haul, like we did with our previous TDIs Then I realized that every one of the reliability issues I've read about on this forum (AdBlue heater, frozen door handles, clock spring, etc.) have happened to our car, in addition to a few others (radio volume knob, clicking clutch pedal, etc.) At this point I'm assuming it is a matter of time before the heater core plugs, the water pump starts leaking, or -GULP- the HPFP fails. Since our car is now out of its warranty, any repairs not related to emissions equipment will be out of pocket expenses.

Instead we're taking the very generous buyout and purchasing a CPO MAZDA6, which comes with a 7 yr/100k warranty and is - subjectively at least - a better looking car that gets nearly the same fuel economy as the Passat.

To add to this, our 2003 TDIs (one each Golf and Jetta) were far more reliable than this Passat. The Golf got to 180k before I sold it to someone on the board and the Jetta was going strong until 205k when my wife's stepfather sideswiped it in his driveway and refused to do the right thing and have it properly repaired. We ended up selling it locally and as far as I know, five years later, it is still going strong.

They both had their quirks, but nothing I couldn't fix myself (I did all my own work, except for timing belts and the odd clutch in the Golf) and they were fun to drive.

 

[jaberoo]

I intended to drive our 2010 JSW (currently 135K) for at least 200K, as we did with the previous 2002 TDI wagen. The 2010 has been more reliable and more enjoyable than the 2002 and, for those reasons at least, I will hate to see it go on Feb 6. It's been one of our all-time favorite cars. But, given the unknowability of what the future holds, I changed my mind from taking the fix and am going with the buyback.

I consider that VW has been very fair to owners in this disastrous affair and I'll have no hesitation in getting another VW. I'm leaning towards a Golf but I'm in no hurry as the whole automobile business is evolving rapidly. Meanwhile, we have a Subaru Legacy and her 1990 Miata for the summers.

 

[halfast3]

Our 2011 has been mostly parked for months but we drove it last week

1. does regens nearly every time we drive it
2. herky-jerky DSG
3. intermittent paddle shifters (bad relay $$$)
4. battery has been on life support for months
5. 80k service approaching
6. does not have a clean CarFax
7. would have needed new 3-season tires before next winter
8. we got 18.7% off MSRP on our new Volvo

 

[Stumiester]

Where do you think the cars being sold back are going that parts won't be available from junk yards? If your intention is to drive a car for 400k miles, I can't imagine a better choice than these TDIs, after the fix.

I'll tell you where I think they are going, to the crusher. Why would a new car company want old problems hanging around. upsell the customer to the newer model. I was going to keep it and drive it but when I saw the projected payoff I chose buyback.

 

[hex_915]

I must be one of the few that had absolutely no issue with my Jetta. I had a 12, 6spd manual. Bought it with 11k, turned it in with 75k.

Never had to take it in for service other than for a right front speaker replacement under warranty, I never even touched the CPO warranty.

I sold it back because I just don't need the car anymore. I bought it when I had to communite 70+ miles a day with a less than stellar credit score, my interest was at 8%.

My drive now is 13 miles round trip to my new job and I can qualify for Tier 1 credit on just about any manufacturer now if I decide I want a new car. I have 3 other vehicles so I'm still undecided on what it is I want. I was thinking on buying a used 2500HD with a Duramax, before they went with the urea/dpf garbage

I did enjoy having a diesel very much. Great fuel economy. Power on tap when you need it.

 

[scottysize]

My reason is simple. I found a new Ram EcoDiesel that I had to have, so the Passat has just been sitting there waiting for VW to buy it back. I sold it as soon as I could.

 

[phxcliff]

Because of the risk of having it wrecked and losing the ability to do the fix/buy back.

The depreciation our cars took when the scandal hit has had a major impact on the value we would get from insurance, should our car get totalled. I don't see the "fix" (if it ever materializes) bringing our car values back to what they should be either. I'm taking the buyback as I don't ever see this car being worth more than it is with this offer.
Driving in Phoenix is like playing the accident lottery. Every day I drive past people looking down at their phones, and every day I drive past rear-end accidents, likely caused by similarly distracted drivers. It's why I stopped riding a motorcycle in this town, and it's why I'm taking the money on this car while I can. Nothing against the car itself. I've loved the Passat. It's purely a financial risk/reward decision.

 

[grawk]

Under most possible scenarios involving accidents, you're better off with a dieselgate TDI than any other car in terms of potential financial loss. No matter what, you get the penalty money. The insurance will pay you replacement value, and it's possible to negotiate keeping the car to sell it back, which would get you full buyback. Several people have already successfully done this.

 

[EskiLvr]

For us it was finding out that the steering rack needs to be replaced - and the knowledge that the DPF hasn't been replaced yet either. We bought the Jetta to get Thing 1 through college and grad school, because we knew how dependable the TDI engine is. But staring at a $1500 repair (that isn't covered by our extended warranty, natch) made us reconsider keeping it. Got a heck of a deal on a CPO 2015 Golf and was able to get it covered under warranty for a good number of years, so now it's just us having to wait to be able to get the Jetta out of our garage and back to the dealer.

 

[gulfcoastguy]

It's simple, I have a check engine light on and VW repairs are expletive deleted expensive. Add to that 83,000 miles, an ash can that might be filling up, the on going chance of a HPFP grinding, and an expensive timing belt coming up and the financial exposure is growing faster than ever.

 

[pcnorton]

2011 Jetta Sportwagen 2-HPFP,1 A/C Condensor and compressor, One headlight due to corroded connector, driver side door connector gone, jerry rigged, $750 to fix, Tailgate hatch switch, Radio died. Random check lights on, but bulbs good. Battery dying for no reason. Love you VW, buy QC sucks.

 

[sdeck]

'14 Passat hit rear and front 15 months ago. Long story/idiot other driver but short version is $17000 in damage, $9500 in medical and diminished value. Hasn't been quite right since. Alignment issues, rear camera out of alignment, headlight burned out, CEL showed up a month ago and reader won't link. Don't want to deal with it. Bought a 2017 Volt to replace it. 55 miles home to work and I can get there most of the time on almost 100% electric. Work has free car charging so I get home for free. 2 weeks old, 1200 miles so far and I've used about 5 gallons of gas, most of that because engine comes on when it's below freezing to warm up the battery.

 

[nmea2020]

HPFP and DPF

 

[derekmw]

For me, the gamble of losing my $11k profit from this buyback. If we get into a small accident, we may make even more by pocketing the body repairs. But if the car is destroyed, stolen, etc where it's written off, that $11k can go way down. It's a gamble I'm just not comfortable taking. If the amount was a lot less, I probably would...

 

[Jimbo70]

For me, the gamble of losing my $11k profit from this buyback. If we get into a small accident, we may make even more by pocketing the body repairs. But if the car is destroyed, stolen, etc where it's written off, that $11k can go way down. It's a gamble I'm just not comfortable taking. If the amount was a lot less, I probably would...

Might I suggest that if you're THAT worried about getting into a crash, that you might consider public transportation? I get not wanting something to break, like the DPF or HPFP, but are you unsure of your ability to drive?

 

[gulfcoastguy]

No he is unsure of others ability to drive.

 

[derekmw]

Might I suggest that if you're THAT worried about getting into a crash, that you might consider public transportation? I get not wanting something to break, like the DPF or HPFP, but are you unsure of your ability to drive?

It has nothing to do with my ability to drive or the general worry about getting hit. Insurance covers that.

In this case though, insurance will not pay me anything close to the buy back amount. THAT is a gamble you either are willing to take or not. I am not.

I am going to get $11k on top of what I paid 1.5 years ago for the car. Getting into any accident, even somewhat minor can total the car and I will not get the $11k profit. I don't like to risk walking away from that kind of money.

 

[grawk]

I guarantee you'll lose more value in your tesla if you're in an accident than you will in the TDI.

 

[derekmw]

I guarantee you'll lose more value in your tesla if you're in an accident than you will in the TDI.

No, my insurance will cover me and my car just fine in an accident. Same goes for the TDI. But no insurance will pay more than the car's current value (except for bodily injury of course).

As a side point though, I've actually already been rear-ended in my Tesla by an inattentive driver. I also almost had a head on a few months back by someone running a red light. So I guess I can say I'm paranoid for a reason. lol

 

[grawk]

Your insurance will cover you and your car, and then VW will pay you the restitution amount. And it's possible to negotiate keeping the car as long as it's still able to move under the power of it's tdi engine, and then you can double dip (see other posts on this forum for people who have already been paid in that exact scenario)

 

[bizzle]

I have 128K and it's due for a DSG service, timing belt, and it's past the HPFP extended warranty. Then the cherry(ies) on top was that while we were waiting for the buyback someone rear ended it and then a few months later sideswiped it. So now it's a battered mess.

 

[Mr. Furious]

Your insurance will cover you and your car, and then VW will pay you the restitution amount.

Insurance will not give you what VW will. They'll give you what the car is worth, and it's worth less than it was in September, 2015.

 

[bizzle]

Yes, but VW will still give you the restitution amount so depending on circumstance you can come out a little under, just right, or a bit ahead.

 

[grawk]

Insurance will not give you what VW will. They'll give you what the car is worth, and it's worth less than it was in September, 2015.

retail vs trade in, and the buyback has caused the cars to go up in value pretty significantly, so the transactions will reflect that.