Weight of a 4-cyl engine

[TBONE1969]

Hey guys,

I have been searching through all the threads trying to find the weight of the 1.9L and 2.0L engines (long block with all the sensors, wiring, etc). Has anyone happened to weigh one of these motors while they had it out?

Thanks!

 

[johnnloki]

365 for the ALH, 350 for the PD, according to some thread on here.

 

[TBONE1969]

Thanks!

 

[mojogoes]

365 for the ALH, 350 for the PD, according to some thread on here.

Kilo's?

 

[SilveR316]

Kilo's?

Sounds more like pounds to me. If that was in kilos that would be increadibly heavy. I had my engine out of the car this past winter for some major work and it definately was not 365 kg.

 

[shakescreek]

weighed my pd before I installed it in my boat.348 pounds with all the accessories on.

 

[mojogoes]

Sounds more like pounds to me. If that was in kilos that would be increadibly heavy. I had my engine out of the car this past winter for some major work and it definately was not 365 kg.

Was the gearbox and all the auxillaries manifolds turbo etc attached to it though!!

 

[shakescreek]

No gearbox, the flywheel was on but without the pressure plate and clutch disk.Intake and exhaust manifold and turbo were on as were the starter and alternator and non stock motor mounts.No air conditioner pump.

 

[mojogoes]

So just another 100 lbs or so for the box especially if it has an LSD......so pounds not kilo's must be right!

 

[Lefty]

weighed my pd before I installed it in my boat.348 pounds with all the accessories on.

Holy Cr$%, you install a PD motor in a boat? How big is that boat? Do you Ski behind it or just troll? If your trolling make sure you do the Itanian Tune up once in a while. Good luck fishing.

 

[hatemi]

There are few TDI powered boats in Finland and few are on the making... In theory it would be the ultimate engine for a decently sized boat. Well the daydream would be a CR engine with alu block

 

[SilveR316]

Was the gearbox and all the auxillaries manifolds turbo etc attached to it though!!

No gearbox, and auxillaries. Both manifolds and turbo where still on.

 

[shakescreek]

boat is an 18'6" welded aluminum jetboat. I don't ski or fish much from it.I live on a river in a remote area with no road access so my boat is my main transportation just like your cars are for most of you.

 

[jsrmonster]

boat is an 18'6" welded aluminum jetboat. I don't ski or fish much from it.I live on a river in a remote area with no road access so my boat is my main transportation just like your cars are for most of you.

Hi L,

Great to hear your still running the TDI boat! I have some upgrades for your ecu when you are ready. I still haven't made it to BC, but will let you know if and when I am going there.

What a cool project.

cya,
Jeff

 

[jasonTDI]

Itanian tune up? Are they a new country? Sounds like south florida!

 

[Ski in NC]

VW sells packaged TDI's for marine use. 4,5,6 cyl up to about 225hp. Available here in the states. Gregory Poole (a CAT dealer) sells them.

-Eric

 

[shakescreek]

Hi Jeff, yes the boat is still running great.Have about 350 hours on the tdi now and the more time I get on it the more impressed I am with the engine.Just got vagcom and a new laptop in the mail today so I can start playing with that.What kind of updates have you been working on? Can't do without the boat for a while yet but should pulling it out of the water in october sometime for the winter and could send you the ecu then.Would love to take you for a ride down to Alaska and back if you ever get up this way.We've been sitting in the living room watching two grizzlys chasing salmon in the creek below the house here this evening. Do you or anyone else on here know how mileage would equate to hours. I am just wondering what kind of hours would be equivalent to 100k miles for timing belt changes.I am guessing about 1000 hours what do you all think.

 

[ibanix]

Do you or anyone else on here know how mileage would equate to hours. I am just wondering what kind of hours would be equivalent to 100k miles for timing belt changes.I am guessing about 1000 hours what do you all think.

Would mean you go average of 100 mph

Take your average speed, multiply by hours, you should get approximate mileage.

Right?

 

[dabear95]

Well, he might be set to cruise at peak HP RPM so that average speed might be higher than you think. Actual speed on the water will not be close, but the RPM's will tell you.

What is the cruising RPM?

Jason

 

[shakescreek]

Cruise is anywhere from 2300 to 3000 rpm depending on how much weight I have in the boat at the time as well as how much of a hurry I'm in. Load on the engine is probably much greater than the same rpm in a car though as a boat doesn't push near as easily. The impeller absorbs 60 hp at 2300, 72hp at 2500,90hp at 2700, and 123hp at 3000rpm. 2600 to 2700 is probably what I average so thats 80 to 90hp continuously often for 5 or 6 hours without touching the throttle.Not sure engine load would make much difference on timing belt changes though, probably more rpm related. Load should probably be taken into account though on the oil changes which I have been doing at 100hr intervals.

 

[ibanix]

Cruise is anywhere from 2300 to 3000 rpm depending on how much weight I have in the boat at the time as well as how much of a hurry I'm in. Load on the engine is probably much greater than the same rpm in a car though as a boat doesn't push near as easily. The impeller absorbs 60 hp at 2300, 72hp at 2500,90hp at 2700, and 123hp at 3000rpm. 2600 to 2700 is probably what I average so thats 80 to 90hp continuously often for 5 or 6 hours without touching the throttle.Not sure engine load would make much difference on timing belt changes though, probably more rpm related. Load should probably be taken into account though on the oil changes which I have been doing at 100hr intervals.

1000 hours may not be a bad interval then.

Have you considered get Used Oil Analysis done on your oil samples?

 

[Revolutionary_mind]

Itanian tune up? Are they a new country? Sounds like south florida!

perhaps someone with an italian dad and iranian mom?

 

[shortysclimbin]

What I would suggest is use the standard formula for 15k miles a year for 100k is 6 2/3 years prior to your timing belt change. I would then look to find out how many hrs a day people would drive and then compare it to your boat. That should give you a rough estimate of hrs/year and at what point you cross the 6 year mark. But honestly the best thing to think about is checking it out with your eyes. a visual inspection should be key every spring and fall.

 

[JonFord]

1500 hours is a good safe bet.

 

[jsrmonster]

TB change intervals on industrial and military applications is more time dependant by calander, than actual hours of use, since they sit inside very hot enclosures for extended times, and may be exposed to harsh chemicals and elements like hydraulic fluids, salt water, etc. Rubber (NBR) offgasses with heat shortening intended mtbf (life). Corrosion and/or rust on pulleys from damp environments (like boat hulls) also contributes to abrasion and premature tooth wear.

 

[shortysclimbin]

Which is why inspections should always be done semi yearly.... Intervals are only guidelines...