We may get an airbag recall 2000-2018

amsoiltek

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Looks like it might affect the 2000 through 2018 model years per NHTSA. If this is old news please delete post.

U.S. auto safety regulators said on Tuesday that 52 million air bag inflators produced by auto suppliers ARC Automotive and Delphi Automotive need to be recalled because they may rupture and send dangerous metal fragments flying.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) first demanded a voluntary recall in May, but ARC rejected it. The agency issued an initial decision on Tuesday and set a public meeting for Oct. 5 in a rare move to compel a recall.

If successful in forcing a recall, the callback would be one of the largest on record.

The inflators that NHTSA is seeking to have recalled have been used in vehicles from 2000 through early 2018 produced by 12 automakers, including General Motors, Ford Motor, Stellantis, Tesla, Toyota Motor, Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Volkswagen.

"Air bag inflators that rupture when commanded to deploy are plainly defective, as they both fail to protect vehicle occupants as they should, and, themselves, pose an unreasonable risk of serious injury or death," NHTSA said on Tuesday.

ARC in May rejected NHTSA's tentative conclusion that a defect existed. ARC did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Tuesday.

NHTSA said that ARC in January 2018 completed installation of devices on inflator manufacturing lines used to detect excesses of a hardened byproduct of welding known weld slag, or other debris.

The agency said it is unaware of issues in ARC inflators produced since installation of the devices. ARC said previously weld slag had not been confirmed as the root cause in the ruptures.

NHTSA said it "believes that the evidence does identify a likely cause" and added that ARC's argument on not finding a root cause "is not a reason for delaying a recall."

The agency said it is aware of seven confirmed inflator ruptures in the United States in the vehicles it seeks to have recalled, including seven injuries and one death.

Initially, NHTSA said 67 million air bag inflators were unsafe, but on Tuesday it adjusted that estimate to account for "over-inclusive responses reported to the agency by certain manufacturers over the course of the investigation."

GM in May agreed to recall nearly 1 million vehicles with ARC air bag inflators after a rupture in March resulted in facial injuries to a driver.

Delphi Automotive, acquired by Autoliv, manufactured approximately 11 million of the inflators through 2004 under a licensing agreement with ARC, which manufactured the remaining 41 million inflators. Autoliv did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

NHTSA has been scrutinizing air bag inflator ruptures for more than 15 years. Over the last decade, more than 67 million Takata air bag inflators have been recalled in the United States and more than 100 million worldwide, the biggest auto safety callback on record.

More than 30 deaths worldwide - including 26 U.S. deaths - and hundreds of injuries in various automakers' vehicles since 2009 are linked to Takata air bag inflators that can explode, unleashing metal shrapnel inside cars and trucks. The latest death was in Mayinvolving a Takata passenger-side bag.
 

x1800MODMY360x

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I remember that mine could be affected, but since I don't live in a hot & humid state that I was put on the lower priority list.

I never pray to get an accident, but if it grenades and I survive. I will sue the hell out of them.
 

pkhoury

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I remember that mine could be affected, but since I don't live in a hot & humid state that I was put on the lower priority list.

I never pray to get an accident, but if it grenades and I survive. I will sue the hell out of them.
I've had airbags deploy on me more than I would've liked to have seen. Or had them not deploy when they should have. Last time my airbag went off, I didn't feel it, because the seatbelt did it's job and bruised the hell out of me. And I'm also in a hot and humid state.

This will definitely be an interesting recall for sure...
 

atc98002

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I remember that mine could be affected, but since I don't live in a hot & humid state that I was put on the lower priority list.

I never pray to get an accident, but if it grenades and I survive. I will sue the hell out of them.
Not certain if this recall has the same environmental issues as the Takata one, meaning perhaps humidity doesn't play a part in it. They aren't reporting it as an unexpected deployment, just that if it is deployed the welding slag might become projectiles that can cause injury. I'm waiting to see if my GTI is going to be impacted by this, since it's within the timeframe listed.
 

x1800MODMY360x

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Not certain if this recall has the same environmental issues as the Takata one, meaning perhaps humidity doesn't play a part in it. They aren't reporting it as an unexpected deployment, just that if it is deployed the welding slag might become projectiles that can cause injury. I'm waiting to see if my GTI is going to be impacted by this, since it's within the timeframe listed.
This is what I'm referring to. I'm part of group 3 which says 2025 is when the recall will happen... :unsure:

 

06bluebeetletdi

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Sounds like you have a 12-14 passat which already had the airbag replaced once, probably in 2017-18 which reset the clock on the airbag. My ‘14 passat had the airbag inflator replaced in September 2017 as part of all the recalls of a tdi buyback car.
 

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lol
gotta wonder how many cars that recall just totalled
I know that absolutely no reasonable human being would put the value of new airbags into... well, any of my cars
 

Rob Mayercik

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lol
gotta wonder how many cars that recall just totalled
I know that absolutely no reasonable human being would put the value of new airbags into... well, any of my cars
Wouldn't that depend on how one defines "reasonable human being"? I consider myself quite reasonable, but I'm sure there are those who would, upon looking at my little fleet, think me quite insane (automotively).

Should be amusing to see how this develops - I wouldn't object to having all my airbags swapped out on VW's dime, given mine are all original...
 

oilhammer

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There are just too many to list....
I can only imagine the trainwreck that this will become. Of course, they probably won't bother grocery listing a bunch of nonsense unnecessary services on a 20 year old 500k mile car.

None of my dubs will partake in any of this, of course.
 

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Last year I got a recall letter for my 2000 Audi TT ->TDI. The letter said to make an appointment with the local Audi dealer to replace the airbag igniter. I was kind of shocked that it would be eligible for the recall.

I made an appointment and took it in. About 20 minutes later a young mechanic came out and said "who owns that 2000 Audi TT"? I walked over and said it's mine. He asked me if I knew who put the TDI in it. I said I did......He had a mk4 Golf TDI that was tuned. Said all the guys in the shop thought that was cool that someone put a TDI in a TT..........

Eric
 

oilhammer

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There are just too many to list....
Yeah, and the first gen TT didn't get a diesel version sold anywhere. The second gen did, however. We of course never saw any, and they discontinued the TT before Dieselgate happened, so we never would have. :(
 
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