Top Post Dawg
- Apr 27, 2003
- 1997 Passat TDI White,99.5 Blue Jetta TDI
I never said one say or the other whether propane was being used as refrigerant , in fact I know it can be .Mach1 said:Rotary, if you dont think propane is used as a propellant, how do you explain all the fires, explosions, warnings..even the OP explained he smelled pane..
Its been done, its dangerous and I have seen it myself, and experienced it..
I no longer use any of these additives, as NO one knowns exactly whats in them...
It gets R12 or R134 only..
Just because you say it isn't happening, doesn't mean its not done..Its being done and its happening right now, all over, bootleg refrigerant is a huge dollar market.
What I DID SAY WAS .......... HC Blends are not propane !!!!
And HC Blends are used in much lower quantities than what they replace as stated in the above post .
HC Blends burn @ ~1,300 * F while misced with refrigerant oil and pressurized HFCs burn @ ~600 * F . CFCs are not the safest refrigerant to use by the way .
For those that don't know when CFCs burn(react to an open flame) which they will you end up with Phosgene gas XXX!!! Deadly poison . Phosgene gas was used in WW I to kill troops with gas attacks .
This entire fire danger of HC Blends is just made up crap to scare people from using a more efficient and safer refrigerant . You want a fire danger , look in the rear of a gasoline powered car , 15-20 gals of gasoline now there is a REAL fire danger .
Considering the above a 48 oz system of HFCs would be filled only with 18 oz of HC Blend R-12a .
Which is safer ,
48 oz of pressurized and misced with oil HFCs a substance that burns under pressure @~600 * F
18 oz of HC Blend a substance that burns under pressure @~1,300 * F
In a CFC system of 48 oz of CFCs ~ 16 oz of HC Blend .