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Wanted: Bosal hitch 2" reciever adapter

Gotrek

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Thank you. I'v emailed them, I've also contacted Tesla who so far all they;ve done is add me to their mailing list :) The downside of no dealerships.
 
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Gotrek

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Sorry to give you the bad news but this type of 2 X 2 receiver/hitch is only being made for the OE market. As far as making this for the aftermarket it is just not going to happen.
You can still purchase the ball mount with the 2” ball attached to it from ID Parts in MA. @ 888 444 7951

Thank you


Michael Yatkowitz
 

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So tesla is my last option from the sounds of it.
That is pretty frustrating. I'm still not clear on what the issue is with Bosal in the USA. I'm curious what the liabilities are or if it is a DOT issue. Obviously it would be a pretty high-demand product in our niche market. If they are now selling the hitches through IDParts, why not sell this too? It is rated for towing after all so should work just as well as the swan neck on the VW hitches.

Keep us posted on any progress with Tesla, or whether you can figure out how to "gray market" it from some Tesla owner who "loses" it and needs a new one. Haha.
 

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Mike is a great guy so far. He's going to research if there are other OEM's using this system. He called me up and told me that the reason they stopped selling it was due to fitment issues and the guy who developed it had stopped working there so the project never was completed. Until tesla came shopping and that was the solution they preferred.
 

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Mike is a great guy so far. He's going to research if there are other OEM's using this system. He called me up and told me that the reason they stopped selling it was due to fitment issues and the guy who developed it had stopped working there so the project never was completed. Until tesla came shopping and that was the solution they preferred.
What's strange is it was briefly sold through etrailer as an aftermarket item. But I think they pulled everything from Bosal because they weren't DOT compliant or something like that. Not sure what the status is now. Maybe that Jeep or Chevy part number could be found and it could be ordered through a dealer?
 

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The only issue IIRC with Bosal not being DOT compliant was, there was only one safety chain point on the hitch. This does not allow for two safety chains to be crossed, per DOT regulations.

As far as the 2" square adapter, I can't see any reason why it couldn't be offered. These sales guys at Bosal need to sharpen their thought process.

My MK4 Bosal hitch I got from IDParts a few years ago was like this, and I thought that was the reason why these hitches got pulled from the market in the first place.

When I saw recently that IDParts was going to have them available again, I assumed this had been addressed. Not sure if this is the case or not.

It would be very easy for Bosal to accomplish this with existing parts. See picture of MK4 mount with one chain point below.

 
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Thank you. I'v emailed them, I've also contacted Tesla who so far all they've done is add me to their mailing list :) The downside of no dealerships.
Tried my luck with Tesla service and their PN (for reference 1027582-00-a). Was told they don't have the stock to even consider selling separate from a Model X with the Tow package currently. Asked about "replacement" availability in the future and got told there's no talks about that currently.
Bosal PN should be 043964.
I suppose for anyone in the states there is an option as there is a Fleabay auction running for one off a Tesla currently, but that won't help those of us in our igloos North of the 49th as the seller won't ship here.
 
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tjsean0308

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The only issue IIRC with Bosal not being DOT compliant was, there was only one safety chain point on the hitch. This does not allow for two safety chains to be crossed, per DOT regulations.

As far as the 2" square adapter, I can't see any reason why it couldn't be offered. These sales guys at Bosal need to sharpen their thought process.

My MK4 Bosal hitch I got from IDParts a few years ago was like this, and I thought that was the reason why these hitches got pulled from the market in the first place.

When I saw recently that IDParts was going to have them available again, I assumed this had been addressed. Not sure if this is the case or not.

It would be very easy for Bosal to accomplish this with existing parts. See picture of MK4 mount with one chain point below.
Just ordered a Bosal hitch without chain loops. Plan to fab my own. Do you have any other info on that chain tab?
 

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Tried my luck with Tesla service and their PN (for reference 1027582-00-a). Was told they don't have the stock to even consider selling separate from a Model X with the Tow package currently. Asked about "replacement" availability in the future and got told there's no talks about that currently.
Bosal PN should be 043964.
I suppose for anyone in the states there is an option as there is a Fleabay auction running for one off a Tesla currently, but that won't help those of us in our igloos North of the 49th as the seller won't ship here.
Same answer

I finally got recently. I even had a tesla owner contact them as he "lost" his and they didn't think they could get him a replacement yet.
 

Gotrek

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So if someone really wants one someone offered me the adapter from a tesla for 299$ the price it cost them. That is very steep considering the Etrailer one was less the 60$
 

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So if someone really wants one someone offered me the adapter from a tesla for 299$ the price it cost them. That is very steep considering the Etrailer one was less the 60$
I've been watching for these for quite a while now too, but while the original price at etrailer varied a bit, it was generally $200. It's even on the forums here

I've tried through a European Bosal / Oris dealer, who found the part number is a US only part number and not order-able outside of the US. The US division claimed to be out of the trailer hitch / towbar market entirely to a muffler shop I asked to try to order the part number. My emails to the PR contact from SEMA at Bosal went unanswered.

If you find a source at a reasonable price ($100-200), please let me know. (If they had ever been $60, I would have bought at least 2.) There are a few $35-60 vertical hitch adapters similar to the old C5 Audi Allroad adapter 2in-2in 90 which were compared against the Bosal adapter on etrailer.

As far as production, I cannot believe that Bosal was sitting on thousands of these until Tesla came along asking. They're likely being manufactured again, but given these require a cast-weld-machine process compared to the normal swan necks' simpler cast-machine, there may be a choke point limiting how fast they can make them.

Thanks,
Geoff
 

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I ended up with a uni-rak And in the end it's been way more practical then a reciever

The downside is I had to make a reciever adapter fit it but It's been a really practical item for all sorts of things. And it's all bolted on so I can change it in all sorts of ways. I've made a few accesories for it to carry various things My 2" reciever buike carrier easily bolted to it after I removed the Square part.

Uni rak is a UK thing, its just a clamp for the ball

http://www.bak-rak.com/uni-rak.htm



I'd still love to find the Etrailer adapter though it's "quicker"
 

kooyajerms

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Can you show me the picture of your Uni-Rak with the 2" receiver bike carrier?

Reason I needed the bosal adapter was my 2" tandem bike rack that shoots the bike straight up into the sky. Can't find anything like it that mounts the bike off the roof and isn't crazy expensive.

What was the Cost of Uni-Rak shipped ?

Cheers Gotrek
 

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Next spring? It's all in storage now not much biking taking place around here :) I switched to my snowmobile trailer :)

I got the Unirak for abour 54$ canadian shipped as it was on sale.
 

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I was looking at the pictures and trying to figure out how to get the 2" to hold solid to the brass channel. Can't seem to imagine it.

See you next Spring =)
 

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Mine pivots like the picture so I removed the 2" adapter piece on it and tied the pivoting point to the unirack mounted verticly. I had to make my own spacers and bolts and retaining system so I could still pivot it. I do have to angle it a bit though because the unirack hits the hatch on my wagon when vertical

 

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Perfect, I can work with that information! Mine pivots the same way. Emailing them now about shipping to California.,

Thanks GoTrek!
 

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740GLE

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Does anybody know if the Bosal and Westfalia Swan necks are interchangeable? Bosal quit making a towbar for a MKIV 4 Motion vehicle, but Westfalia does and if they are interchangeable, I'd start looking for one of those 2" receiver adapters.
Well technically I found one on Ebay, but they want $520+ $29.70 for shipping :eek:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bosal-Tesla-model-X-hitch-adapter-like-new/323285493457?hash=item4b455126d1:g:49YAAOSwPGpbDLbM
TIA for any help. :)

Late but never, yes I've read they westy and bosal have the same mechanism.
 

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I've been watching for these for quite a while now too, but while the original price at etrailer varied a bit, it was generally $200. It's even on the forums here
I've tried through a European Bosal / Oris dealer, who found the part number is a US only part number and not order-able outside of the US. The US division claimed to be out of the trailer hitch / towbar market entirely to a muffler shop I asked to try to order the part number. My emails to the PR contact from SEMA at Bosal went unanswered.
If you find a source at a reasonable price ($100-200), please let me know. (If they had ever been $60, I would have bought at least 2.) There are a few $35-60 vertical hitch adapters similar to the old C5 Audi Allroad adapter 2in-2in 90 which were compared against the Bosal adapter on etrailer.
As far as production, I cannot believe that Bosal was sitting on thousands of these until Tesla came along asking. They're likely being manufactured again, but given these require a cast-weld-machine process compared to the normal swan necks' simpler cast-machine, there may be a choke point limiting how fast they can make them.
Thanks,
Geoff

My wonder is if Tesal just bought bosal out of the hitch manufacturing business and is now sourcing their own parts through the same manufacturing chain. Almost seems like something tesla would do just because. PFjones doens't even list them for mk7 anymore.

IDparts mentioned that they may get the last order of Bosal tow bars for the mk7 platform this summer but not sure. Also bosal isn't in the tow bar business anymore.
 
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Just for clarity’s sake, and to have the info in a couple different places:
The Bosal connection is not the same as the Westfalia connection. See below:




Note the intermediate step in the Westfalia swan neck. The trigger ball sits in this intermediate step, and the Bosal would need to have that machined into it. I’m not sure that’s possible without wrecking the mechanism or ruining the retention of the ball. The difference in diameters is on the order of 2mm. The top portion is also a different diameter, Westy is approx 1.5 mm smaller, same issue with machining. I have tried many times to get the Bosal into my Westy hitch and it won’t go far enough in for the top balls to engage the retention ring before the mechanism is tripped.

I’ve felt that the balls are slightly magnetized so maybe retention wouldn’t be an issue? According to this video (Westfalia vid showing assembly of a Skoda Octavia wagon towbar [same as the sportwagens]. Assembly of an anutomatic swan neck at 2:00), https://youtu.be/Wr0CGZ1AK90, they’re placed from the outside and the balls aren’t retained by holes. I haven’t gone to a machine shop to enquire.
Dave
 
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Good info Dave!! I found out the same. Where I'm at now... I want to have my westfalia hitch modified to accept a 2" square usa style receiver. I saw a photo online once that showed someone who did this very thing by making a rectangular metal plate for the 2inch square receiver to sit on , that was slightly wider and had 2 holes drilled on either side of the square receiver this allowed for 2 U-bolts to be installed over the westfalia and in through those small holes to help hold the square receiver and plate onto the westfalia neck, at the bottom under the ball, so you could still use the westy ball and/or the receiver!! It was all welded tight. Looked legit... But I cannot find that image anywhere any more!!! Frustrating as hell because it might have been lost due to the photobucket extortion

...just tapped out with a thumb or 2, please don't mind the abbreviations and grammatical faults.
 

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Film- The one you are describing might be Gary's design (gjslutz - see above) where the pix are no longer loading.
 

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awww crap, there goes my hopes of sourcing a bosal adapter for my westy hitch. I'm thinking next option would be sourcing a replacement westy swan neck, then welding a 2" reese some where to the neck.
 

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I have an odd ball Brink removable swan neck hitch on my 05 PW
I have on order a swan neck to 2" US receiver adapter from Watling Engineering in UK
Cost with shipping is about $160
Description states it is suitable for a bike rack but not for towing which should suit my needs
If there is enough interest, this could be a good group buy
My cost was 75euro plus 45euro shipping
I saw 60ea/5 plus should be able to save significantly on shipping
Might be able to get total cost down to a $100ea
This company does a lot of custom hitch work
 
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