79jasper
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Yup. They'll make some power too.
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3 hours is quoted repair time on Gen 1, Gen 2&3 are software only AT THIS TIME. Nothing official and when we asked about labor times "we cannot disclose at this time, pending approval"How many parts are involved with the TDI remedy?
Gen 1 vehicles will require parts, Gen 2 and Gen 3 Phase I are software only. In an effort to simplify ordering, we will be provide "kits" vs. individual part numbers for vehicles requiring hardware.
The 16 cars were never Certified for sale in the US so no on the 16'sI have driven 2 new style Golf TDI's now (a 2015 and currently have a 2016 as a rental). Both are from my travels in Europe. I absolutely LOVE these cars, and really want to buy one. Unfortunately this scandal has made it impossible, and the news article at the front of this thread has made it seem that my hopes of buying a new one have now been crushed.
Is there any hope at all for buying a 2016 Golf TDI when the fix is done? Or will the EPA see it through to ensure all these TDI's are no longer on the roads?
And I'll bet any 15 model I find someone will be asking more than it was new for a used one IF I am able to actually find one...The 16 cars were never Certified for sale in the US so no on the 16's
the 15's you may be able to find one at some point.....
Yep I am counting on that! I have a 2015 Jetta SEL TDI with a 6 speed manual and every possible option including blind spot monitors front and rear collision avoidance and AFS HID Headlights and it will probably be for sale after the fix....And I'll bet any 15 model I find someone will be asking more than it was new for a used one IF I am able to actually find one...
Thanks VW...
Looks like I'll have to hope that the new Chevy Cruise diesel hatchback can sell me what you cannot...
Was hoping for a 2 door that was to be released for the 2016 models that now will never come out. Also, didn't necessarily want the SEL model either. But at the point things will be in, likely I won't be able to be picky. Is yours a 6-speed? How much are you looking to get out of it?
There are no more 2 door TDI Golfs being madeWas hoping for a 2 door that was to be released for the 2016 models that now will never come out. Also, didn't necessarily want the SEL model either. But at the point things will be in, likely I won't be able to be picky. Is yours a 6-speed? How much are you looking to get out of it?
Yes, I know this. Before the Dieselgate happened the 2016 model details had been released. Part of this info was that in 2016 they would offer a 2 door Golf TDi. In the base model (the one I wanted), the price was going to only be about $21,XXX. This was perfect for what I wanted and my budget. Now that the scandal has happened the 2016 models won't be offered, hence my comment before of "I was hoping for a 2 door for the 2016 models that now will never come out".There are no more 2 door TDI Golfs being made
yep....VW Bit the hand that fed them....Yes, I know this. Before the Dieselgate happened the 2016 model details had been released. Part of this info was that in 2016 they would offer a 2 door Golf TDi. In the base model (the one I wanted), the price was going to only be about $21,XXX. This was perfect for what I wanted and my budget. Now that the scandal has happened the 2016 models won't be offered, hence my comment before of "I was hoping for a 2 door for the 2016 models that now will never come out".
Citation needed for where the EPA makes money on the regulations that they're creating.The thing I blame is the EPA more than VW on this one. It has gone above and beyond what it was meant for (hence the reason the co founder left a few years ago). Yes VW cheated, but the rules the EPA set out are not to protect the environment as much as they have for other money making agendas in my opinion.
Beautiful Car! Mine is a Jetta In T-red!
I'm not arguing that what VW did was wrong. My point was more that the EPA is wasteful with their money, and more than anything I wish the US was more like other countries in Europe that did not have the restrictions we do in the states against diesels."Facts?" More like one-sided assessment of what the authors think the EPA is doing poorly.
The emissions regulations were clear. Volkswagen made a conscious decision to ignore them and bring these vehicles to market in a non-compliant condition that was a direct result of blatant cheating.
If they didn't like the regulations, they should have said "hey consumers, we can't give you an affordable diesel option because of XYZ. Help us lobby your regulators to make this possible." The bottom line is that Volkswagen intentionally broke the law in order to help their own position in the market and to maximize their profits. Alternatives were available, but they didn't want to pony up the extra money per vehicle it would have taken for them to legitimately pass emissions.
I don't know that they are really "giving up on diesel there". I go "there" often and I regularly see brand new diesel cars and SUV's of many different car manufacturers. For every diesel car I see in the states, I see 20 to 30 in Europe. The Europeans keep cars for much longer than most people in the US do, but even so, there are TONS of new diesels sold in Europe. Just last summer I went to Germany and visited the BMW plant in Munich. BMW had 3 new models that were diesel (none of them for sale in the US). One had been tested at something rediculous like 60-70 MPG, had a top speed of 150 MPH and cost $24,000 USD. Cars I would have killed to own.The other countries in Europe, that have extreme smog issues, due to having extremely weak regulation of emissions (that can legally be cheated in so many ways that there's been no real improvement in NOx emissions since, depending on how you count it, either 2005 or 1992)?
And, they're realizing where they messed up, and are closing the loopholes, improving their test cycles, and adding real-world testing. This is resulting in automakers giving up on diesel there, and hybridization being a cheaper option.
"Facts?" More like one-sided assessment of what the authors think the EPA is doing poorly.
The emissions regulations were clear. Volkswagen made a conscious decision to ignore them and bring these vehicles to market in a non-compliant condition that was a direct result of blatant cheating.
If they didn't like the regulations, they should have said "hey consumers, we can't give you an affordable diesel option because of XYZ. Help us lobby your regulators to make this possible." The bottom line is that Volkswagen intentionally broke the law in order to help their own position in the market and to maximize their profits. Alternatives were available, but they didn't want to pony up the extra money per vehicle it would have taken for them to legitimately pass emissions.
Was hoping for a 2 door that was to be released for the 2016 models that now will never come out. Also, didn't necessarily want the SEL model either. But at the point things will be in, likely I won't be able to be picky. Is yours a 6-speed? How much are you looking to get out of it?
What do I gain? Here's my breakdown of the buyback on the Golf. First, I get about $1000 more than I paid for it, not including the $1000 goodwill package that I've already spent. Second, I eliminate about half of my daughter's school loans. Third, I reduce my auto insurance by about $100 a month since I get rid of the third car.I cannot understand why anyone would sell theirs back to VW. What would you possibly gain?
My thoughts exactly. I was holding out for a 16' Sportwagen and now I'm wondering how to smuggle in a TDI engine into the country. On a side note, does Canadian law permit importing whole engines? I know the answer in the US is no according to the law.I have not read this thread through completely but I too am deeply disappointed in the demise of VW's awesome diesels. I have been a VW fan since the late '60's. The TDI was the only car in the VW line up that was really outstanding to me anymore. I will continue to buy and drive used ones until the supply runs out.
Just my opinion...