TCBinaflash
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I just saw a 2013 JSW with 35k miles for $10k yesterday- and this is at a VW dealer.
Volkswagen's Clean Air Act violations on 2009+ TDIs spark huge recall, investigations
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rick_deckard
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I wonder if someone sold it in a panic at an extremely low price. My local dealership isn't selling/purchasing them at all.
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If they're building some MPG deception into an ECU update that almost certainly makes MPG worse, that would explain why some people here report almost no MPG change after the update. That isn't annoying to you?
TDIpilot4u
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You could buy the thing and have a DPF, turbo (or name your feared failure) and probably still be ahead!
johnboy00
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Are you sure that was a tdi? I thought VW dealers have a stop sale order an all TDIs, NEW and USED.
14tdipassat
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Stop order is on all New and CPO.
motoblue
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My point was that the reflash caused my previously accurate computer to now be inaccurate. The 2306 update did nothing good for my vehicle, just the opposite in my experience, and my advice to anyone who hasn't had it done is avoid it if you can.
rick_deckard
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And they are getting around that by removing the "CPO" stickers and re-listing them as used.
rob c
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3rd hand rumor re: VW compensation
Cause, what the Hell, more fuel to the fire.
A friend who knows the Florida Regional VW manager (hence third hand).. told my friend that Gift Cards will be sent aprx. 11/20 - amounts unknown - one for VW service and one to do whatever you want wherever you want.
Also that 2016 and 2015 will be "fixed" first and us lucky owners of 2009-2014 will have to wait a while before we let VW open up our cars, and retrofit for Urea Tank and all that's involved in that.... I am so excited about letting any VW service tech do this work... would not trust many to change my wiper blades.
Cause, what the Hell, more fuel to the fire.
A friend who knows the Florida Regional VW manager (hence third hand).. told my friend that Gift Cards will be sent aprx. 11/20 - amounts unknown - one for VW service and one to do whatever you want wherever you want.
Also that 2016 and 2015 will be "fixed" first and us lucky owners of 2009-2014 will have to wait a while before we let VW open up our cars, and retrofit for Urea Tank and all that's involved in that.... I am so excited about letting any VW service tech do this work... would not trust many to change my wiper blades.
rick_deckard
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The reason I had to sell my old Jetta was due to their "service" department's work after my water pump failed (just inside the final thousand miles of warranty at least). The car basically fell apart piece by piece after that.
Abacus
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I had a car like that once and stopped having problems when I stopped taking it back to that dealer.
It's still going strong with over 350K on it, and it was a gasser.
kjclow
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I checked the websites and none of the Charlotte dealers have that ridiculous pricing. The only thing on one site that temps me is the 2014 Beetle ragtop, of course TDI.
bubbagumpshrimp
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Sweet. I'll get me that set of dubs that I've been wanting, lol. On a serious note...I need to do a 40k service in like a week. It'll piss me off if I go flush ~$400 down the toilet on that and get a "gift card" in the mail the following week.
bubbagumpshrimp
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The stop sale impact new and certified pre-owned. It doesn't seem to impact used. I.e. My dealership has a '15 Passat TDI SE with 5k for sale. It looks literally brand new and they've still got it posted for sale online.
Got Haggis?
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interesting that you will have to go to a dealership to activate the cards. I feel like there may be a hidden agenda there.
ray96disco
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Well said!
rob c
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So when we find out the amounts, I wonder if we could transfer the VW specific card to another VW owner for him/her to use.
I am thinking I would let mine go for pennies on the dollar. I only use a trusted independent.
jettapenguin
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It should be worth a few hundred bucks to someone that uses avw dealer for service
tsingtao
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Now, now, my dealer changed mine last summer and they work just fine.
tsingtao
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Probably have to sign away any right to sue, either individually or in a class action.
TCBinaflash
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I have to go to the dealer today. My fuel filter is spewing Diesel everywhere after having them replace the filter last week.
Also found the mechanic's gum wrapper in my engine compartment.
I wish I was more handy and could do this stuff myself.
rick_deckard
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I don't know if I want to pass on a $12 check from a law firm five years from now.
TCBinaflash
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Your correct, its a gasser they had listed under TDI category. Sorry for all the excitement!
There is no deception. It is a formula that estimates fuel economy using several variables. IT IS AN ESTIMATE. You can adjust one of those variables using VCDS to get it closer to actual.
If you want them to tack on a few hundred dollars/car to add flowmeters to the delivery and return lines you can have something more accurate. Is that what you want?
Every single company has this same issue. Google it. It is well documented.
bubbagumpshrimp
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If they didn't do that...people would sell/trade them. i.e. Trade a $200 service card (if you had no intention of using it) for $150 cash.
Slum Cut
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I understand that. The person who noted this is saying the ecu flash caused the estimate to get 10% more optimistic. Is that a coincidence? I'm genuinely asking, but if it is not, it is extremely troubling.
Prop Man
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I am wondering if VW will be including Audi owners in any of these "bribes?" Audi is really run as a separate company (wholly owned by VW) in the USA and I have to wonder if they are coming up with a separate plan?
Have any of you heard anything from the Audi side of things? I haven't heard one peep from Audi about this whole thing--no letter, no press release, no nothing. I called Audi and they said that they were "working on a response" and would "announce something shortly." This was about 3 weeks ago.
Have any of you heard anything from the Audi side of things? I haven't heard one peep from Audi about this whole thing--no letter, no press release, no nothing. I called Audi and they said that they were "working on a response" and would "announce something shortly." This was about 3 weeks ago.
uninc
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Should be able to use this to buy tires. I will be dropping of my set of wheels so they don't even get a chance to put my car on the lift.
tsingtao
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I'm still waiting on my $8 for a pair of shoes. Was supposed to get it in September but I think the lawyers are trying to suck more out of the settlement.
I have a 2009 and I am happy with the service department where I go so the gift cards would probably be more than I could even hope to recoup in an individual suit. I'll probably just take them.
Remember, even if you sign away your right to any legal action, VW still has to repair or buyback (depending on the deals they come to with EPA and CARB). Not that everyone will want their "repair" depending on what it works out to be.
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