EEVLWYS
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Is it June 21st yet..............maybe I should tailgate in front of the dealer on the 20th to be first in line......lol
Volkswagen's Clean Air Act violations on 2009+ TDIs spark huge recall, investigations
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romad
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The only thing that is supposed to happen on June 21st is the release of the proposed fix/compensation/buyback information. There will be a 30 day public comment period, then on July 26th if all goes well, Judge Breyer will approve the agreement and tell them to start the implementation phase. No need to camp out, yet.
aja8888
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Looks like you have one of the special Golfs that makes fuel while you drive it!... was going for a personal best ... to and from Stillwater.
... drove 10-15 MPH OVER the MINIMUM
... there was at least 7-8 changes in speed limits because of Turn Pike - urban - construction - etc. --- both ways
... one new "THANG" I learned on the way
... Started with the computer telling me I had 540 miles left on the tank (FULL TANK) ... showed as much as 560 miles left to go near the end of trip ... at the end of trip showed 540
turboBear
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I haven't used a sound meter but I would say the Forrester has more cabin noise than my Golf. Even though I have Yakima Q-tower+Roundbar+Spoiler+2 bike carriers on the roof.
Some (much?) of that is from the tires on the Forrester but some of it is from the shape of the Forrester.
The '07 Forrester we had was REALLY BAD for the wind noise, some side window based from less-than-snug window-2-seal fitment, a lot from the front windshield, and again more road noise. The '16 Forrester is leaps and bounds better than her '07 was.
But not as quiet as my Golf.
The tires on the Golf are the Hankook Ventus S1 Noble2 with under 10k on them.
The tires on the Forrester are the stock tires. I don't have the make/model specifics at hand.
kitarkus
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Man...give your medical cannabis card a rest already! You post the most repetitive, subjective, self serving agenda of anyone on this forum...and that is saying a lot! Good gawd man....get a life!
Haha ya think?? Thanks for saying what I've felt after reading just two of his posts.
Thanks Turbo.....
Road noise is an issue with my 2012 golf tdi (not sure how much better is 2013)....wind noise may be okay......road noise is so bad that its hard to have telephone conversations... more so when on rough surfaces...i understand the trade off between handling and noise at this price point...
If subaru is worse than golf, its off my list for one more reason...the first being unusually high engine oil consumption/burning...does anyone know if it was ever resolved by subaru?
Sounds like your tires are making that noise. You make sure alignment is good? I had some tires that were crazy loud on my Jetta then got the Pirelli p7's and the noise went away.
bizzle
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You keep comparing the NOx output of our diesels to hundreds of millions of gas cars' NOx output.
What is the allowable NOx output of a gas car with a properly functioning 3 way catalytic converter?
Then you continue to compare the 2009-2015 NOx standards to pre-CR TDIs. The older TDIs fall under the regulations that were in effect when they were manufactured. I can't imagine you would be complaining less if CARB was retroactively applying the current standards to 20 year old diesel cars so it's just constant whining without regard for a workable standard.
dbias
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I'll never buy a Subaru. My mother in law had one and it was fill the oil and check the gas, and a head gasket.
I have 2 new tires and 2 are old...yes, that could be added factor but I am not confident if it will reduce significantly with new tires....I gotta check on the alignment though...last was 25k miles before...thanks.
dslman
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Oh my god I agree with you completely!
I've been recovering from an injury last week, been bored.
This IS all a total waste of my time and I really need to get my life back again.
YIKES!
Whoa! I align mine every 6k miles, thank god for Firestone lifetime alignments. I can almost guarantee the tires and alignment are the issue.
whatt!! every 6k miles!......i gotta checkout firestone's deals....no one close though...36 miles away is the nearest one...sears is an option, however....thanks for the info.
imurrx
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Tires can make a huge difference. I bought cheap ones for my old Accord andni swear to God it sounded like the TRON mobile. It was a constant 85 decibel in the car at highway speeds.. If you go to tirerack they rate tire quietness. Also how's your bearings? They can make horrible sounds as well.
Cayman
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Is this true of their newer cars? I test drove an Impreza last week, other than being gutless it seemed like a nice enough car. My leading choice to replace the Jetta is a Mazda 3, but the Impreza 5 door seemed like a good value
2015vwgolfdiesel
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....Low on knowledge hereLooks like you have one of the special Golfs that makes fuel while you drive it!
... maybe the computer is starting out with an average of the CITY and ROAD MPG
... then maybe it adjusts for what the car is really doing, as you go along
.... anyway it was weird to see the 560 as I was just coming in to Tulsa
GoFaster
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Friend of mine had an Impreza for a while (which replaced a 2004 Jetta TDI). All wheel drive was the only good thing about it and that only makes a difference about 1% of the time when you are actually driving on snow. In general daily driving, it offered neither power nor fuel consumption. Real world consumption was around 9 L/100 km. And it was a dog. He sold it - and bought a 2003 Jetta TDI.Is this true of their newer cars? I test drove an Impreza last week, other than being gutless it seemed like a nice enough car. My leading choice to replace the Jetta is a Mazda 3, but the Impreza 5 door seemed like a good value
Gonehuckin
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Seems the moderating is pretty subjective around here....
scooperhsd
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I think he has an excellent summary of the situation, myself. In the large - the amount of NOx our TDI's put it is barely measureable - even if it is generating 40x ALL THE TIME !!!! (and we know it isn't). Even in the LA basin - I'd bet the NOx actually helps the smog problem by reacting with what's there.
The only REAL issue here is that CARB and EPA were shown to not be doing their job - no spot checks at all ! - And now they have to "punish" VW for showing this. It isn't about the "environment" - it's about the MONEY and ensuring compliance for the future. If it was about the environment, we'd already have GEN3's getting updates and the 2016's on the road.
dbias
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They had it 4 or 5 years ago. Replaced it with a Hyundai. After that experience the 10 years 100,000 was attractive.Is this true of their newer cars? I test drove an Impreza last week, other than being gutless it seemed like a nice enough car. My leading choice to replace the Jetta is a Mazda 3, but the Impreza 5 door seemed like a good value
That's funny I'm leaning towards a mazda 6 if the passat has to go.
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White Passat
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Tires and road noise
Subaru used almost no sound proofing and paper thin carpeting for years, no frames on windows and roof racks. Subaru usually installs Geolanders aka Geothumpers as OEM rubber. Almost as noisy as your Hankooks. I drove an 08 Forester for several years and it was very noisy at cruise even with Michelins replacing the Geothumpers and properly aligned. The Forester went through struts about every 50K miles and was much harder on tires than my '13 Passat. My Passat running Michelin primacy's is very quiet at cruise. I can even use the speaker phone and my hearing aids.
Gonehuckin
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Xenophobia allowed, but criticizing that xenophobe is not.......
bigdogdan2
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How are you using your $500 Volkswagen Dealership Card?
Just curious, how are people using their $500 Volkswagen Dealership Card?
- Using it for a trade in?
- Using it on maintenance?
- Using it on swag? (clothes, cups, pens, etc)
For those who will be doing the TDI buy back option and don't plan on upgrading to another VW, how are you using your $500 card?
I finally went in on april 30th to activate my cards and they had a expiration date of 12/16 and I asked if I could extend the expiration and they said no. I haven't really decided on what to do with my tdi just yet.
edit: oops, I meant to put this in the general section.
Just curious, how are people using their $500 Volkswagen Dealership Card?
- Using it for a trade in?
- Using it on maintenance?
- Using it on swag? (clothes, cups, pens, etc)
For those who will be doing the TDI buy back option and don't plan on upgrading to another VW, how are you using your $500 card?
I finally went in on april 30th to activate my cards and they had a expiration date of 12/16 and I asked if I could extend the expiration and they said no. I haven't really decided on what to do with my tdi just yet.
edit: oops, I meant to put this in the general section.
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AmandaSch
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I've talked to a couple of dealers the last few days and they've both told me that they no nothing/haven't heard anything about VW. I think I'm a little bit surprised at this
Gonehuckin
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Except there are dozens if not hundreds of examples of this in this thread that haven't been deleted.
soccerpeople
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Are we really having this discussion AGAIN?
It's like taking a test in class, getting caught cheating, denying it repeatedly, then turning around and complaining that the standards were too tough. VW cheated. Every other car manufacturer knew the rules, decided they could not meet them, and are not in this predicament.
You can talk about NOX levels till you are blue in the face - it is irrelevant to the facts. There was a standard and for 7+ years VW chose to be dishonest in order to make a few bucks. End of story.
Gonehuckin
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I never claimed a first amendment right. I said that the removal of posts on this thread has been subjective at best. You have a guy on here admitting to stealing tools, stealing taxpayer dollars and denigrating an entire race of people. None of his posts have been deleted. I call him out on it and my post goes up in flames. It's your place, do as you want. If you want it to turn into a xenophobic place where thieves exchange notes, so be it.
Rico567
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You might be less surprised if you knew that Judge Breyer has imposed a gag order on all parties in this matter until June 21st. Therefore, there's no more reason for a dealer to know what's in the offing than you or I.
AmandaSch
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Sorry my bad, I meant that they weren't even aware about this scandal at all. I wasn't referring to the settlement details. Sorry ?
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