Volkswagen's Clean Air Act violations on 2009+ TDIs spark huge recall, investigations

[DubmyRUCA]

Owners are said to havetwo years to decide whether or not they want to sell their cars back to VW, or have them fixed. Those who elect a buyback will receive theresale value of their vehicle before news broke of the cheating last September, plus an additional cash compensation.

I didn't see this mentioned in any of today's articles, where did this come from?

 

[740GLE]

Not in small unincorporated towns. When in NE on a trip last year, the station only had large nozzle diesel pumps, dating from the 70s. The fuel station in my town (only one within 13 miles) still has pumps dating from the early 60s. The station manager said it required A LOT of work for Gilbarco to hook them up to a PLC.

I wasn't aware of much modifications were needed for ULSD was initiated back in 2007.

I think what took out a ton of smaller shops was standards requiring double walled tanks that states are adopting and enforcing, at least they did here in the past year or two.

Also I notice the handles hoses on my local station are changed quite frequently not sure if it's over use or damage, but it seems like ever 6 mo its a new handle.

 

[gearheadgrrrl]

Thank You!

As a matter of fact, that poster has provided me the impetus to give up on chasing women altogether!....I am now going to sleep with my dog.

Mission accomplished!

 

[mjLyco]

I spent most of my life driving truck for Hostess, UPS, and the Postal Service. Gotta stack of safe driving awards, and over three decades of professional driving hit one deer, had a car spin out and hit the truck once, and got rear ended once. That's with a risk exposure about five times what the average driver sees, including driving through the deer refuge otherwise known as Wisconsin at night for several years. Fact is, if you're a good defensive driver, crashes in your personal vehicle will be decades apart.

Please. You can be the safest driver on the planet. If a meteor falls out of the sky and hits your car, you're dead. Someone recently died because a plane landed on their car.* How is defensive driving going to stop that? You've been lucky thus far.

Worst kind of troll. Can we get a ban from the admins?

*source

Edit: She's a VW zealot trying to hijack this thread on a news day. She's mad her prediction of no buybacks was completely false.

 

[kitarkus]

Early in my trucking career, when I was on the "extra board", I got called in to run tractor only over to central Wisconsin to bring back the trailer from a tractor trailer rig that was in a crash. The "official version" was that a deer was in the middle of the road, so the driver swerved and hit an orange construction barrel on the off ramp to avoid the deer. Turned out the barrel was half full of dirt, and it took out the whole bumper and radiator too!

When I hit the deer with the '03 TDI I'd already slowed down because it looked like a deer crossing area, it was November just after dusk, and I'd seen tailights flash in that area. Because I'd already slowed down and nailed the brakes rather than swerve, the damage was limited to a crumpled hood.

You should really consider offering driving classes for us newbs. You seem to be really smart and you have a lot of experience that you could share with us. Please don't just keep your knowledge to yourself....but please consider spreading your knowledge to us all. We will pay you! I thank you each and every time you post such insightful bits and I follow your blog like green fly on cow paddy.

 

[CEaton]

I am ready to enjoy the final months of my JSW's life. Let this be a reminder to us all...that life is short and can be taken away from us at any moment. Live life to its fullest every hour and every day.

I plan to take my dog for long sloppy wet rides in her, I will now encourage my daughter to eat saltines in the back seat, I will smoke smelly cigars and leave the windows up, I will play pac-man with potholes, I will install political bumper stickers on each square inch of her exterior. I will then lay her to rest knowing that she lived....she lived the best life that could be offered to her. Farewell my JSW.....farewell. RIP

HAH, you're not alone, I've already decided the dog doesn't have to go in the back, or on a sheet.

Another thing, I'm not supposed to tow AT ALL, I do have a truck to tow my boat, but I'd like to use the JSW to tow my wave runner.....now that I don't give a **** about longevity, maybe it's time to start using it to tow that and my small utility trailer to keep the miles off my truck.

I absolutely adhore this car, and I have wanted out of it for some time now, not just due to the scandal.

 

[LNXGUY]

It sounds like a lot of you suck at driving and or paying attention.

 

[gearheadgrrrl]

Nice try, but...

Ahh, I get it - you drove for the Post Awful. A little hard to hit a deer when you're doing 15mph down the highway in your Jeep DJ-5, or doing 45 in a UPS truck. Most of those trucks go excessively slow and I doubt you did any real highway driving.

Glad you didn't say sleeping with goats/sheep, otherwise I'd be seriously concerned.

Actually, I've never driven a DJ-5 or the successor LLV. I got to play with the Macks and Whites, with occasional downsizing to a Ford Cargo, Volvo FL, or Navistar conventional straight trucks. Put in lotsa hours in a spotting tractor too.

 

[kitarkus]

HAH, you're not alone, I've already decided the dog doesn't have to go in the back, or on a sheet.
Another thing, I'm not supposed to tow AT ALL, I do have a truck to tow my boat, but I'd like to use the JSW to tow my wave runner.....now that I don't give a **** about longevity, maybe it's time to start using it to tow that and my small utility trailer to keep the miles off my truck.
I absolutely adhore this car, and I have wanted out of it for some time now, not just due to the scandal.

I think you abhor the car?....or do you adore the car? Now is the time to see what that car can really do! Tow as you please. Paint stripes on it. Jam bananas in the tailpipe. Remove the back seats and install a twin mattress. Add a 360 degree rotating gun turret to the roof. The choices are endless.

 

[coolbreeze]

Just a thought

On what could be the busiest day this thread has ever seen, it might be a courtesy to keep the posts on topic. Please!

It is hard enough the get through all the bs and get to news we need.

 

[psd1]

A buy back isn't going to occur, enjoy the car and worry less.

Uh oh...

 

[swhite63]

$5000 is more than any of us deserve for the "loss" we've "suffered"!

Maybe "suffered" is not the correct term, but "inconvenienced" and "misled" are certainly accurate, and we deserve compensation for that. If my best option is a buyback, I have to purchase another vehicle. Where I live, sales and excise taxes on a $27K vehicle run around $2K, costs I've already absorbed once, and will have to again, due to no fault of my own. Starting a new loan means I'm paying mostly interest for the first year or so, which means less equity in my replacement car. There's lots of "costs" involved, not just hurt feelings/suffering.

Since the scandal news broke, I've been seriously contemplating getting a different vehicle. For 7 months, I've been unable to trade or sell my TDI without a significant loss. Last week, I found the perfect (used) vehicle for my current needs, but couldn't make a move on it, and it sold yesterday. So I'll add another word that VW's compensation will help with: "frustration".

Finally, if the $1 Billion figure is accurate, not many of us will be getting $5000. More likely quite a bit less than that.

 

[austintg]

It sounds like a lot of you suck at driving and or paying attention.

I know of some people who are very situationally aware, spatially aware, and pay attention while driving, but they have had bad luck in the DFW area. I am extraordinarily aware, but have had a couple close calls in this area too. I wouldn't be so quick to judge!

 

[Mark SF]

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/news/a28916/vw-tdi-emissions-settlement/

 

[autdi]

On what could be the busiest day this thread has ever seen, it might be a courtesy to keep the posts on topic. Please!

It is hard enough the get through all the bs and get to news we need.

Sadly, judge put a gag order on the parties, so no valid news will come out today other than they have an agreement in principle, and late June is when the details will be revealed, with an earliest implementation start is end of July.

May know more once the transcript goes up, it's not there yet.

 

[Cayman]

True, but I do wonder what VW will disclose when they finally hold their quarterly investors meeting?

 

[phrinda]

Add a 360 degree rotating gun turret to the roof. The choices are endless.

I've been contemplating mounting rocket pods and maybe an M240. If only there was a way to reverse the sunroof opening so the gunner could stand on the back seats through the sunroof.

 

[pkhoury]

...When I hit the deer with the '03 TDI I'd already slowed down because it looked like a deer crossing area, it was November just after dusk, and I'd seen tailights flash in that area. Because I'd already slowed down and nailed the brakes rather than swerve, the damage was limited to a crumpled hood.

I didn't have that option yesterday and due to my accident, was driving about 10mph slower anyways (60 instead of 70). Spotted 5 deer in the middle of the road, but they scattered when I did my usual railroad-esque long long short long horn blasts.

But again - when a buck comes out of nowhere on your left side, really, you're f***ed, in some way, shape or form. In fact, of all the times I've hit deer in the past year and a half (4 deer in all, 3 incidents), they all came bolting out of nowhere. NOTHING I could've done. Deer standing in the road, never had a problem. Coons, skunks, possums and dog-food rabbits in the middle of the road, no comment.

I did wish I killed that buck, though. The sheriff's deputy told me "You didn't hear this from me, but if you had a knife on you, you could've field dressed that deer if it were an Axis deer." My response - already did that before in the adjacent county. Dogs didn't need kibble for a week and a half, and still got a new bumper out of it.

 

[volks27]

Not very good news for owners (like me) that
a) owns a low mileage TDI,
b) wants to keep it
c) wants to mod the ECU

 

[JohnNS]

My report post button is getting a work out today - far better than engaging people that are just here to inflame and incite.

That being said, ON topic: I suspect now Ken Feinberg can go to work fleshing out the compensation/buyback with VW more or less knowing what they're in for in terms of fines/programs/etc.

The judge set a deadline of June 21st, hoping they work faster but I fully expect VW to use every time delay they can - more chance of cars off the road and more interest on the money banked.

Before this broke I was hoping to have moved on to an awd SUV (for last winter), now I'm hoping for this winter - in the very least we have SOME info to go on.

 

[pkhoury]

Owners are said to havetwo years to decide whether or not they want to sell their cars back to VW, or have them fixed. Those who elect a buyback will receive theresale value of their vehicle before news broke of the cheating last September, plus an additional cash compensation.

I didn't see this mentioned in any of today's articles, where did this come from?

Or he pulled it out of his @ss. Most of his posts don't include any citations whatsoever, so I take them with a grain of salt. Or half a grain, really.

 

[fredthe]

Sigh, gag order and another 2 months (or more if the gag remains until the judge approves the settlement). Time to make more popcorn.

 

[2015vwgolfdiesel]

I didn't see this mentioned in any of today's articles, where did this come from?

....sorry ... in haste I failed to site LINK




http://isp.netscape.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0002/20160420/KCN0XH2CX_8.htm

 

[740GLE]

Maybe "suffered" is not the correct term, but "inconvenienced" and "misled" are certainly accurate, and we deserve compensation for that. If my best option is a buyback, I have to purchase another vehicle. Where I live, sales and excise taxes on a $27K vehicle run around $2K, costs I've already absorbed once, and will have to again, due to no fault of my own. Starting a new loan means I'm paying mostly interest for the first year or so, which means less equity in my replacement car. There's lots of "costs" involved, not just hurt feelings/suffering.

Since the scandal news broke, I've been seriously contemplating getting a different vehicle. For 7 months, I've been unable to trade or sell my TDI without a significant loss. Last week, I found the perfect (used) vehicle for my current needs, but couldn't make a move on it, and it sold yesterday. So I'll add another word that VW's compensation will help with: "frustration".

Finally, if the $1 Billion figure is accurate, not many of us will be getting $5000. More likely quite a bit less than that.

And you "have" to sell your car why? or you chose to sell your car.

Also that $5000 number must be an "up to" number no way are they shelling out 5K for my 2010, the same for someone that bought a 2015.

 

[2015vwgolfdiesel]

Or he pulled it out of his @ss. Most of his posts don't include any citations whatsoever, so I take them with a grain of salt. Or half a grain, really.

morning pk

http://isp.netscape.com/news/story.j...CN0XH2CX_8.htm

 

[fan of fanboys]

I can't say how happy I would be if there was a buyback and I did not lose any money AND I got $5,000 cash/visa card

 

[nayr]

Not very good news for owners (like me) that
a) owns a low mileage TDI,
b) wants to keep it
c) wants to mod the ECU

why mad? this is great news.. were going to be flooded with cheap parts and aftermarket mods for a while.

or do u want more money for a car your going to keep and continue driving?

 

[740GLE]

Not very good news for owners (like me) that
a) owns a low mileage TDI,
b) wants to keep it
c) wants to mod the ECU

why can't you do that after they modify your car? no where does it say Malone can't do what they would do today 4-6 months from now.

Heck you could even use VW money to pay for it.

 

[LNXGUY]

Uh oh...

I'll happily admit defeat once it actually happens, lol!

 

[2015vwgolfdiesel]

And you "have" to sell your car why? or you chose to sell your car.

Also that $5000 number must be an "up to" number no way are they shelling out 5K for my 2010, the same for someone that bought a 2015.

... however ... some owners of poopy cars desire to get equal payment as owners of PREMO cars

... and why not ... human nature

... drive more and worry less?