Unable to remove cylinder lock from ignition housing

rpl3000

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2014 JSW gasser.
posting on this forum because when I had my MKIV golf ALH response was always great.

I removed the switch, housing and cylinder lock expecting to only have to replace the housing. I can't get the cylinder lock out. I've tried several pushers from wires/allen wrenches, bike spokes etc. broke/ bent several. Even if I get it out, I think at this point the mechanism is damaged enough that it warrants replacement. This is #1 in my stable and takes the family out of state. I can't afford to have this problem on a trip.

Would someone please let me know what my options are at this point? I know I need the whole assembly, but I'd like to retain my key/fobs and not replace the door cylinder. I won't tolerate a mis-matched door and ignition. I have an old Ross-tech USB VAG-Com. Not sure if that even works with the MKVI....

Thanks in advance.
 

oilhammer

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You order the ignition lock cylinder by VIN from the dealer, takes a couple weeks. I do a TON of these.



If I get one with the key stuck in it, I cut a slot in the housing with a cutting disc, right where the little spring tab slot is, and *usually* I can stick something in there and push it down and get it out, but sometimes I have to darn near cut the whole housing apart in pieces to get the cylinder out, and then get the key out.

I never would put an old cylinder in a new housing. That's nuts. Get a new housing (some come with the ignition switch, some don't), and a new cylinder, and I use some pan-head grade 8 Allen bolts from Fastenal that work great, and ditch those cursed break-away bolts they come from the factory with.
 

jetta 97

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Done hundreds of those and I have reuse tumbler( Cylinder ) in 99% of the time , There is nothing wrong with tumbler unless someone force key with pliers( which I have seen before) that is the only time I would replace Tumbler ( Cylinder ).
Never had any of them to come back. 2 Weeks is to long to wait for new Tumbler to get it .
 

jetta 97

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2014 JSW gasser.
posting on this forum because when I had my MKIV golf ALH response was always great.

I removed the switch, housing and cylinder lock expecting to only have to replace the housing. I can't get the cylinder lock out. I've tried several pushers from wires/allen wrenches, bike spokes etc. broke/ bent several. Even if I get it out, I think at this point the mechanism is damaged enough that it warrants replacement. This is #1 in my stable and takes the family out of state. I can't afford to have this problem on a trip.

Would someone please let me know what my options are at this point? I know I need the whole assembly, but I'd like to retain my key/fobs and not replace the door cylinder. I won't tolerate a mis-matched door and ignition. I have an old Ross-tech USB VAG-Com. Not sure if that even works with the MKVI....

Thanks in advance.
You must have it in position #2 key (Ignition On) and good Pick (like Dentist pick ) and Tumbler will come out very easy , Pick has to be about 2 inch long , you may have short one and not reaching all way in.
As I mention above I have done hundreds of them .
 

rpl3000

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I've watched several online videos and seen how the mechanism works. I'm sure the tools I was using was long enough. I buckled the largest allen key I could fit in the hole. Bad technique or something FUBAR'd.
Last time it jammed and left us stranded a small metal piece came out of it after 15 minutes of abuse. I have a borrowed car and can wait 2 weeks.

Will I need anything done electrically (mating keys to immobilizer? sorry, not sure how it all works in there, but I know there's a chip and an antenna) if I get the tumbler from the dealer, by them knowing my VIN will it come ready to go?
 

jetta 97

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I've watched several online videos and seen how the mechanism works. I'm sure the tools I was using was long enough. I buckled the largest allen key I could fit in the hole. Bad technique or something FUBAR'd.
Last time it jammed and left us stranded a small metal piece came out of it after 15 minutes of abuse. I have a borrowed car and can wait 2 weeks.

Will I need anything done electrically (mating keys to immobilizer? sorry, not sure how it all works in there, but I know there's a chip and an antenna) if I get the tumbler from the dealer, by them knowing my VIN will it come ready to go?
No, you do not need to do anything if you get Tumbler from Dealer coded By VIN , All will be plug and play as your original keys will work in new tumbler.
Make sure you plug Immobilizer Coil with little connector, I have seen many People forgot this and can will start and turn off with No Key message in cluster :)
 

ss_mini14

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I had the same issue a few months ago. I replaced the lock but reused my cylinder. It didn't fix the problem, it seemed like the key got stuck just as much. What I figured out was my shifter button was sticking. After a couple taps and a rattle to the button, it releases the key.
 

rpl3000

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I had the same issue a few months ago. I replaced the lock but reused my cylinder. It didn't fix the problem, it seemed like the key got stuck just as much. What I figured out was my shifter button was sticking. After a couple taps and a rattle to the button, it releases the key.
Thanks for the tip. Definitely something to look into. Any reservations about using an aftermarket lock? OEM from the dealer 5-10X cost of what I'm seeing elsewhere. The dealer also said that the cylinder they ordered would still have to be paired. Either I misunderstood or I'm misinformed. They also said the cylinder would only take a few days.
 

ss_mini14

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Thanks for the tip. Definitely something to look into. Any reservations about using an aftermarket lock? OEM from the dealer 5-10X cost of what I'm seeing elsewhere. The dealer also said that the cylinder they ordered would still have to be paired. Either I misunderstood or I'm misinformed. They also said the cylinder would only take a few days.
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/steering-column-lock-febi-1k0905851b.

This is the one I got. Aftermarket parts from a European company are fine, I'd stay away from anything Chinese
 
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