Yup. And it's only going to become more common when gas engines get particulate filters. Almost everything is turbocharged now.
And here we go…again! It would be nice if we could track down this owner or any other 2015 owners with failures. I'm sure the current turbo failure (non discussion) thread would suffice for informational purposes.
Where do I sign up?
Would be nice if VW could design a turbo capable of enduring the warm up strategy they came up with to comply with the insane EPA regulations. If it cannot be done, then they need to come up with an all new system. Was hoping the new engine would have it licked.Remember that VW is giving us what we want, VW wouldn't run the warm-up if it wasn't required by the EPA Tier II
That would involve increased size and/or more rotating mass, which would mean more turbo lag and complaints from owners.
It is what it is. I like the car but if they can't design something more robust then don't sell them. Not everyone wants to constantly replace turbos and whatever else it destroys in the process. I'm not dumping mine either but this is getting out of hand.Okay, tyrntlzrdking's and psd1's impassioned posts have convinced me that the NMS Passat TDI of any vintage is doomed to premature turbo failure.
I will be selling my white 2014, canceling my order for the black 2015, as well as my pre-order on the 2016. I just can't take the stress anymore.
I have ordered appropriate skateboards for the entire family.
I agree the first reported 2015 turbo failure may be a "fluke". Hope so.
This really is the bottom line. No excuse for the turbo not to meet the emissions requirements. This is a design and/or manufacturing problem.
I disagree. They can build a turbo to meet all the EPA and performance requirements. I think this is an issue of metallurgy.
Irrelevant who they actually outsourced the manufacturing of a specific part to. VW is ultimately responsible for the design *and* manufacturing. You think VW is going to turn that responsibility over to the supplier and sit back while turbos roll in the back door particularly for such a critical component? Hardly. You can bet they are providing meticulous oversight into the manufacturing of that part. The supplier is most likely doing exactly what VW has asked them to do.
Perhaps. Where is it?
Isn't that a question VW should be answering?
Sure. No argument from me that this is more widespread than VW. But beyond current technology to solve? I don't think current technology is in any way a limiting factor. We're not trying to cure cancer here. Anyway I own a VW so I am limiting my jabs to them.
Really? How much extra fuel do you think it actually uses in a minute or less?
Really? How much extra fuel do you think 100,000+ TDI Passats actually use idling for an extra minute, every day, all winter?
Less than one hour of heat at the Pentagon.
With all of the people and equipment the A/C is probably running year round.
It was more about how much fuel they actually burn for heat... about 650 gallons of #2 diesel per hour when it's below freezing out. When it's above freezing, they're allowed to burn natural gas.Lets not bring politics, race, religion or sexual preferances into this please.
