. Later! BTW, I did a spell check on analyse and the spell checker came up with analise. Thought you might want to know.Now why should I be livid? I could care less what you do and how much money you make. My first comment was a joke, but my second one wasn't. I also run a successful business, as a side job, but I base my business on customer service, not rude comments, or trying to downgrade my competition. In fact one of them and I combined our buying power even though we don't do any work together. And no it isn't selling vehicles. Think before you talk, it will go a lot farther for respect from any of us. As far as I'm concerned this is over for me and I hold no animosity. (sp) Group hug everyone.Harvieux said:Allrighty now, let's Analise this situation here. I'll start with my assessment and then you guys can chime with follow-up if you wish.
TomTDI posts his vehicle for sale, right? I, who does this for a living and not as a hobby swoops in and offers full pop without hesitation. Shortly thereafter, a couple teed off member's post negative posts towards me for doing so (In other words, I didn't start this BS). One member already has TDI's and most likely didn't need this vehicle but yet he had to post that offensive and uninformed remark. The other member was just teed off because he thought he lost the chance to get that wagon due to someone acting B4 him and therefore he continues to attack because he thought he has more of a right to the vehicle than someone who was not only first but, someone who does this for a livelihood. My reaction to both of these member's posts was a bit harsh on the surface but, there was a bit of comedy inserted as well. Example: Of course you guys would never buy a TDI form me and I know it. And if I wasn't in the picture, I too would buy from Steve Ahl in Ukiah so, we do agree on that one at least. My assessment of the member that already has TDI's is he just livid and can't stand the fact that someone deals exclusively in TDI's as a business and has no clue to the costs of doing that business and therefore automatically thinks gouging is in play but, I really think this person is just envy with jealousy. The other member that's teed off must also realize that I do this for a living (7 years running) and therefore needs to swoop in B4 I do as well as have his money ready, perform due diligence, and don't fence sit or lookey loo. In other words this member needs to beat me at my own game because I have provided this forum with every single point to point process on how to do this without getting porked yet, there are still those few here that despise everything I do here whether right, wrong, or indifferent and it's all due to jealousy and/or misguided judgment. Even though I have a very successful business and sell to many club member's nationwide, my service is not for everyone. There are many here who have the skills to buy intelligently thanks to our member's many years of input. It's those few who shoot from the hip with baseless BS without knowing the real facts that I will fight to the end and will continue doing so. Some of you may have noticed that I have been dealing with this for a couple solid years now and you may also realize that I generally do not start the BS, I just finish it
Congrats on your possible aquisition and I am sure all here wish you many, many wonderful and safe miles. We all have to trust that Tom handled this matter in an ethical manner. Later!funkshun said:
Nick, This is so, so ture but, what sort of bashing might that person have to endure here for trying to make a profit? Later!nicklockard said:
I thought better of posting that but now you blew it Headcheck time!
OK, I accept your first post as a joke and admit that I may have overeacted in including you in the mix. I also have no problem with your second posting because I too think a heck of alot of Steve Ahl and consider him a true friend. You mention downgrading my competition. Hopefully, you're not referring to me on that, are you? If so, please enlighten me with facts. Respect? I think respect should be a two-way street, wouldn't you agree? Later!tpitt1946 said:Now why should I be livid? I could care less what you do and how much money you make. My first comment was a joke, but my second one wasn't. I also run a successful business, as a side job, but I base my business on customer service, not rude comments, or trying to downgrade my competition. In fact one of them and I combined our buying power even though we don't do any work together. And no it isn't selling vehicles. Think before you talk, it will go a lot farther for respect from any of us. As far as I'm concerned this is over for me and I hold no animosity. (sp) Group hug everyone.
Well, it's up to the seller to know the market B4 posting at such a d!ck tease price, especially a veteran member like TomTDI. Now, it kinda makes me wonder where all the bashers were when TDI's weren't in such a frenzy and I'd purchase member's TDI's at or above the current market value when no one else here would even touch themnicklockard said:Oops
Harv, I just HATE to see the seller screw himself out of $3,000 for nothing. I just sold my car last week. When people GIVE thier pristine wagons away, it hurts us all (sellers.)
If it sells for $15,000...oh well, I think burning the cash in a bonfire has more entertainment value personally!
. Just part of that two-way street example. Later!
that is rediculous. no matter how efficient your car is, that's just absurd. i'm glad you no longer drive that far.Intech said:
The wagon is a bit of a phallic symbol... no different than an obelisk like the Washington monument. So why do I want a car that looks like a male appendage? I don't, my wife does. She wears the pants and that's how it is in my house.MrErlo said:
Darn, I'm the one that wanted wagons, but after all I am from Calif.LurkerMike said:The wagon is a bit of a phallic symbol... no different than an obelisk like the Washington monument. So why do I want a car that looks like a male appendage? I don't, my wife does. She wears the pants and that's how it is in my house.
Besides, I was hoping that she would think about me when she is driving it so far from home...
Actually I haul a lot of things with mine though.
That was classy of him to buy you and the wife a dinnerNaranja said:
MrErlo said:
I couldn't agree more!Harvieux said:Well, it's up to the seller to know the market B4 posting at such a d!ck tease price, especially a veteran member like TomTDI. Now, it kinda makes me wonder where all the bashers were when TDI's weren't in such a frenzy and I'd purchase member's TDI's at or above the current market value when no one else here would even touch them
Classy?? I didn't say that. Where were you when I offered my car here for $18,000? I got some interest from some nice folks on Fred's, but no one stepped up or even made an offer. When I advertised locally I spent time with buyers that couldn't get financing and more than a few Nigerians. CarMax offered me $13K and forget about the trade-in offers. I did my research, and I didn't want to mess with Ebay. I was ready to buy a new car and I had my money in two days. I hope Harv makes more than $1500 on my car, buying it site unseen, half way accross the country.nicklockard said:That was classy of him to buy you and the wife a dinner
About $1,500 dollars of your money kind of classy, I'd say
I take it back. Watching people throw money away on the internet IS fun
Tom, Great post! Not great because it's in my favour but, great because it's very accurate/factual and exactly what I have posted here for years when attacked by the uninformed ones who have lurked and trolled here. I felt it would be useless for me to re-hash all the "costs of doing business" breakdowns again and I think it's rather refreshing to have this layed out by a third party to lend some credibility to the issue. Later!TomK said:
Hi Steve, Yes, the pleasure was all mine in meeting you and your lovely wife. It takes two to make a transaction smooth so, you two deserve just as much credit for the end result. I've preached and preached for years here how important due dilligence is to perform B4 forking out the cash but, there are rare instances that the force shield can be lowered and I lowered mine for you based on our initial correspondance. Best wishes and I hope you stay tuned here to the club. Later!Naranja said:
) So, NONE of the accusations posted here are accurate of him as a person or as a business.
Probably selling my car for it's true market value. I did post it here, but Tdi club is not a place for serious buyers. If you've been here a while you know that there are a lot of low-ballers. I had one goofball offer me $10,000 on a car I sold for $15,400! As Harv says, lots of lookey-loo'ers. I used Craigslist and Autotrader (complimentary ad). The buyer found me on Craigslist. And yes, I also got one very serious offer from a NigerianNaranja said:
but zero genuine offers from anyone here. {I'm on everyone's ignore list? }I didn't intend to do any Harv bashing here. He has every right to make profit by providing a service (meticulous research and care with attention to the fine details, as well as having a brass set when buying cars on faith from the other side of the country sight-unseen) that a certain percentage of the population does not have time or cojones to do themselves. There is room for every type of buyer and seller. BUT, on the other hand, as a savvy buyer/seller myself, I am essentially competing against him (and every other savvy buyer/seller) for good buys and good buyers. No, I'm not going to jump in the used Tdi business...don't worry HarvNaranja said:
Harv is not to blame for making a valid offer on a dicktease price! I'm just pointing out the fact that giving away $3,000 is crazy The pertinent analogy is your neighborhood. How would you feel if your neighbor with a comparable house sold it for
If it was a 2003 wagon then it must have been before I was in the market for one...Naranja said:
