TDI's: A Hot Commodity

r11

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music to my ears. I bought a used BB '15 Passat SE 6MT with 8K miles - somehow still has that new car smell.

Loving it, my '12 6MT going back :(
 

IndigoBlueWagon

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Typical research-free blog article. Talked to dealers in Oregon and CA, two of the hottest markets for TDIs. And there are still '15s on lots two months after they were released for sale.

I love TDIs, but I don't think they're a hot commodity, except among the few of us who really want them.
 

gearheadgrrrl

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Buffalo Ridge (southwest Minnesota)
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'15 Golf DSG, '13 JSW DSG surrendered to VW, '03 Golf 2 door manual
There seems to be a lot of regional variation- I live in rural Minnesota 70 miles from the nearest city of over 100,000 and TDIs have always been popular with the many long distance commuters. Thus the VW dealer nearest me in Sioux Falls sold all their TDIs in just a couple days, and the dealer I bought mine from in Mankato was pretty well sold out in less than a week.
 

aja8888

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Texas..RETIRED 12/31/17
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Out of TDI's
There is a very large banner sign in front of the VW dealer a mile from my house advertising 2015 TDI's for sale. It's been there for a while. I don't know what's in inventory but the sign has been up for a good while. Most everybody I know that had a CR turned them in for the cash, including me.

This area is Large Truck, Mercedes and BMW country so VW has had a hard time selling cars.
 

halbert

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I wonder what kind of response I'd get to THIS ad: 2014 JSW for sale, 82K miles. Was in excellent condition till it got clobbered on Nov. 25 last year. Engine runs. Needs passenger side airbags, roof liner, rear bumper and axle. Chassis is sprung. Don't know if sunroof works. VW won't buy it back. Salvage title. Asking $15K (buyback value before the accident was $27K and change.)
 

Trade Wind

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music to my ears. I bought a used BB '15 Passat SE 6MT with 8K miles - somehow still has that new car smell.

Loving it, my '12 6MT going back :(
If you don't mind saying, what did that cost you? Thinking about a similar move on a manual Passat... but maybe one with higher miles. My 2012 clutch failed at 110,000 miles, best to sell it back to VW, but no test drives are winning me over yet.
 

John Kuhn

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There is no such thing as '15 JSW. '14 JSW was replaced by '15 GSW. They're all the same anyway except nameplate.
 

DieselMann99

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There is no such thing as '15 JSW. '14 JSW was replaced by '15 GSW. They're all the same anyway except nameplate.
Ok, thank you for that simple explanation. I thought the JSW was a Jetta, and the GSW is a Golf. I thought the Golf was a smaller car.
 
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tomo366

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Hot commodity? This beauty had been advertised here for 6 weeks no one seems to want it the advertised price is at or near Blue Book and it is a stick...with nearly every available option....
 

NAZ TDI

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I noticed that the article described having to add DEF was "a sour note". Why? You will likely add more windshield washer fluid than DEF, yet who whines about adding washer fluid?!
 

Motodude

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Im in san diego and I have seen the same ads up for the same cars for weeks. Plenty of them in san diego and palm springs.
 

peterdaniel

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Remember it's only rare and desirable when YOU don't have it.. otherwise, they're a dime a dozen
 

Rico567

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Remember it's only rare and desirable when YOU don't have it.. otherwise, they're a dime a dozen
This is another candidate for a sticky. There appears to be an inescapable human tendency to mistakenly attribute one's own wants and desires to the rest of the human race. Most people in this country not only don't drive diesels, they're only peripherally aware of them. The only person in our rather large extended family who had ever heard of Dieselgate was one of our sons— who happened to have had one of the affected TDIs, which he has since turned in.
 

John Kuhn

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Ok, thank you for that simple explanation. I thought the JSW was a Jetta, and the GSW is a Golf. I thought the Golf was a smaller car.
For years the Jetta was the sedan version of a Golf, with a different grill and a trunk added, which stuck out a foot or so beyond the hatchback length. The wagon has the same rear overhang as the sedan, hence the larger cargo area. The currrent generation seven Jetta does not share quite as many elements with the Golf, but is still the same basic size category, unlike the Passat which is the next size up.
 

VWMark

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Ok, thank you for that simple explanation. I thought the JSW was a Jetta, and the GSW is a Golf. I thought the Golf was a smaller car.
A Jetta is a Jetta, smallish sedan. A Golf is a Golf, smallish hatchback, 2 or 4 doors. A Golf Sportwagon (GSW, previously JSW) is a smallish wagon with 4 doors, longer than a standard Golf.

Traditionally, they were all on the same platform, just different bodies. I believe the current Jetta is slightly different.
 

Blue_Hen_TDI

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How come I'm hearing little or nothing about 2015 JSWs. All the talk seems to be about GSWs.
Keep in mind that the Jetta Sportwagen was Mk6 platform while the Golf Sportwagen is Mk7 platform riding on the MQB chassis and with a 3rd gen EA288 engine with DEF.
 

IndigoBlueWagon

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Both Jetta and Golfs (Hatch and Sportwagen) have EA288 engines in 2015. But the Jetta Sedan is an older platform. MKVI, not MKVII.
 

aja8888

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Hot commodity? This beauty had been advertised here for 6 weeks no one seems to want it the advertised price is at or near Blue Book and it is a stick...with nearly every available option....
Maybe Jack is interested in it...oh, wait, he just bought a Chevrolet. :eek:
 

2015vwgolfdiesel

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Typical research-free blog article. Talked to dealers in Oregon and CA, two of the hottest markets for TDIs. And there are still '15s on lots two months after they were released for sale.
I love TDIs, but I don't think they're a hot commodity, except among the few of us who really want them.
Odd thing about supply and demand

Ratio ~~ matters not the gross numbers:rolleyes:

If 20 buyers want something, and there is only (say) 15 units the price will be strong.

Particularly as we see folks driving (flying) hundreds of miles to get one.

Then we see cars being "shipped" for only (say) $1.25 per miles.

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Flip side is equally true ~~ 20 buyers with 25 units available, and the price drops like a stone:eek:

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My prediction is: as time (and miles on the existing units goes forward) There will be more buyers, than cars (in the future)
 

tomo366

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Maybe Jack is interested in it...oh, wait, he just bought a Chevrolet. :eek:
Now that is funny.....I tried to buy several of Jacks cars. He wouldn't sell to me because I was offering what they were worth.....probably with Jack is his driving style is not good for these cars.....
 

2015vwgolfdiesel

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Now that is funny.....I tried to buy several of Jacks cars. He wouldn't sell to me because I was offering what they were worth....
Not knowing who Jack is

Me thinks he is selling with the biggest fool theory in mind. You are no fool!

For every car, there is a possibility of a few-many- even hundreds of possible buyers.

IF Jack has a truly fine car, and he shows it well, it should bring a "good" price. But the biggest fool principle is still in play
 

2015vwgolfdiesel

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There seems to be a lot of regional variation- I live in rural Minnesota 70 miles from the nearest city of over 100,000 and TDIs have always been popular with the many long distance commuters. Thus the VW dealer nearest me in Sioux Falls sold all their TDIs in just a couple days, and the dealer I bought mine from in Mankato was pretty well sold out in less than a week.
Agreed on regional issues.

Both coast(s) seem to be higher than the fly over states on my CARS.COM search.
 

toneman

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norcal
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Keep in mind that the Jetta Sportwagen was Mk6 platform while the Golf Sportwagen is Mk7 platform riding on the MQB chassis and with a 3rd gen EA288 engine with DEF.
Actually, JSWs are MK5s with a few mk6 electronics added in 2010.

Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk
 

IndigoBlueWagon

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Now that is funny.....I tried to buy several of Jacks cars. He wouldn't sell to me because I was offering what they were worth.....probably with Jack is his driving style is not good for these cars.....
Jack has offered me three of his cars, and I did buy one. Actually in the case of the B4 his driving style was good for it. I say it had the longest break-in in history. Runs great at 283K miles.
 

2015vwgolfdiesel

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I see tons of price drops on the wagon cars for sale at dealers. For the used 2015 cars
Not doubting your observations.

Then it will show up in the NADA ~~ KBB ~~ Black book.

My particular car (2015 Golf DSL S Hatch) is holding up ... so far
 
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