TDI UOA Database

wjdell

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Joined
May 17, 2006
Location
Central Florida
TDI
06 Jetta TDI DSG PKG 1 17" VV Campy White/Beige
Calculated by dividing total wear metals by miles in thousands. The national average is 6.538 ppm total wear metals, less Mn and Ni. This is based on 51 ppm total / 7800 miles by Blackstone.

TDI Club Ave : 6.952 ppm. ~~~~~~ Club Ave. OCI : 9981 mi. 8/25/09
  1. Odinsjetta 05/17/09 ALH Total MC3 1.667
  2. VATechTDI 04/23/09 ALH Rotella T CJ4 1.782
  3. aja8888 06/24/08 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 2.252
  4. Braga_Dub 03/26/08 ALH Elf DID 505.01 2.500
  5. Eb2143 06/01/09 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 2.579
  6. Revolutionary_mind 01/08/09 BEW Mobil TDT CI4+ 2.674
  7. phaser 08/27/08 BEW Elf LLX 504/507 2.716
  8. MikeB60 02/15/08 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 2.783
  9. truman 04/24/09 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 2.857
  10. Bob_Fout 07/19/09 ALH Amsoil DEO CJ4 2.947
  11. oEo 07/18/09 BEW Total MC3 3.036
  12. pruzink 04/27/08 BEW Elf DID 505.01 3.086
  13. Kalebenne 02/16/09 BHW Total MC3 3.144
  14. mchapek 08/30/09 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 3.186
  15. Dimitri16V 06/16/09 BEW Mobil TDT CI4+ 3.200
  16. truman 04/07/08 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 3.273
  17. aNUT 01/06/09 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 3.298
  18. Galactic Warrior 08/26/08 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 3.300
  19. Gmark 07/30/08 BEW Mobil D ESP CJ4 3.364
  20. tommyt 01/04/09 ALH Rotella T CJ4 3.374
  21. WHATSUPDOC 08/21/08 ALH Elf CRV 506.01 3.409
  22. fitski 02/11/08 BEW Elf DID 505.01 3.450
  23. WJDell 04/20/09 BRM Schaeffer S9000 CJ4 3.562
  24. volmaniac 02/07/08 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 3.754
  25. ANON # 43921 04/12/08 BEW Schaeffer S9000 CJ4 3.819
  26. AndyH 05/11/08 1Z Amsoil DEO CJ4 3.864
  27. Blue_Hen_TDI 10/16/08 1Z Mobil ESP 504/507 3.912
  28. N2carz 05/31/09 BRM Mobil TDT CJ4 4.016
  29. spuimatt 03/13/08 ALH Amsoil AME CI4+ 4.492
  30. Ski_in_ NC 08/11/08 ALH C Pro SLX II 505.01 4.731
  31. JohnB 06/01/07 ALH Esso XD3 CI4+ 4.800
  32. astrolumen 06/22/09 ALH Mobil ESP 504/507 4.824
  33. TedHurst 11/08/08 BRM C Pro SLX II 505.01 4.898
  34. AndyH 11/04/03 1Z Amsoil HDD CI4+ 4.899
  35. Redputter 11/04/08 ALH Castrol SynTec 5.100
  36. tdileadfoot 10/20/08 BRM Elf LLX 504/507 5.115
  37. Nellie 12/22/07 BEW Motul Specific 505.01 5.169
  38. Lekolite 05/17/09 ALH Elf LSX 5.192
  39. silverbox 10/21/08 ALH Mobil D ESP CJ4 5.206
  40. tommyt 08/28/08 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 5.306
  41. thermographer 02/29/08 BEW VW LL III 504/507 5.333
  42. icecap 07/30/08 BRM C Pro SLX II 505.01 5.400
  43. zanzabar 06/09/08 BEW VW LL III 504/507 5.577
  44. spiceredwagon 06/20/08 BEW Elf DID 505.01 5.592
  45. nutdriver 06/09/09 BRM Mobil ESP 504/507 5.806
  46. Almagne 06/22/08 BRM Elf LLX 504/507 6.258
  47. Matt65 08/03/09 BRM Total MC3 6.378
  48. AndyH 07/23/07 BRM Amsoil AFL 505.01 6.500
  49. Hutchman 05/01/09 BRM Elf LLX 504/507 6.553
  50. gern 03/28/08 ALH Elf DID 505.01 6.588
  51. cbass94 10/11/08 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 6.900
  52. milehighassassin 06/05/08 BEW Elf LLX 504/507 6.932
  53. EVO&TDI 03/10/08 BEW Amsoil AFL 505.01 6.947
  54. blkpas 08/27/08 BHW Elf CRV 506.01 7.600
  55. ANON # 20444855 04/07/08 BEW Mobil TDT CI4+ 7.750
  56. maktas 09/09/08 BHW VW LL III 504/507 7.778
  57. RichOxfordBlue 05/18/09 BRM Elf LSX 8.000
  58. Brock_fr_WI 01/28/08 ALH Elf CRV 506.01 8.087
  59. whitedog 01/11/09 BEW Castrol TXT 505.01 8.300
  60. Foobert 03/15/09 BEW Elf LSX 8.491
  61. cbass94 08/03/08 ALH Elf LLX 504/507 9.100
  62. TdiPd05 02/27/09 BEW Total INEO 507 9.604
  63. leicaman 11/20/07 BHW C Pro SLX II 505.01 9.800
  64. MarbleTDI 03/28/08 ALH Mobil ESP 504/507 9.928
  65. Low_Velocity 08/18/08 BRM Elf CRV 506.01 10.300
  66. deepseafortydog 07/19/08 ALH Amsoil AFL 505.01 10.434
  67. AndyH 07/23/06 BRM Motul Specific 505.01 10.543
  68. Abacus 08/05/08 1Z Rotella T CI4+ 11.276
  69. Mdfirefighter 05/22/09 BRM Elf LSX 12.503
  70. Diesel Addict 12/25/07 BEW Red Line CI4+ 12.815
  71. 04PDWagon 12/19/06 BEW Motul Specific 505.01 14.200
  72. dhdenney 09/15/08 BRM VW LL III 504/507 14.366
  73. Jetta09chicago 07/14/09 CBEA Factory 14.788
  74. mparker326 08/27/07 BHW Quakerstate 505.01 16.533
  75. sdeck 08/10/07 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 17.937
  76. Pelican18TQA4 06/04/09 CBEA Factory 22.553
  77. Alnmike 05/05/09 CBEA Factory 25.827
  78. Hurst89 03/22/08 BRM Elf DID 505.01 28.005
  79. PalosParked 05/02/09 CBEA Factory 30.642
  80. DidJettarun 03/24/09 BRM Motul Specific 505.01 39.645
Oil Performance in descending order with 2 or more entries. 8/25/09
  1. Shell Rotella T CJ4 5W40 API 2
  2. Amsoil DEO CJ4 5W40 API 2
  3. Mobil 1 TDT CI4+ 5W40 API 9
  4. TOTAL MC3 VAG 4
  5. Schaeffer S9000 CJ4 505.01 5W40 API 2
  6. Mobil TDT CJ4 5W40 API 2
  7. Mobil 1 Delvac ESP CJ4 5W40 API 5
  8. Elf LLX 504/407 5W30 VAG 6
  9. Mobil 1 ESP 504/407 5W30 VAG 4
  10. Castrol Pro 505.01 5W30 VAG 4
  11. Castrol SLX III 504/507 5W30 VAG 5
  12. Shell Rotella T CI4+ 5W40 API 7
  13. Elf CRV 506.01 0W30 VAG 4
  14. Amsoil AFL 505.01 5W40 VAG 3
  15. Elf DID 505.01 5W40 VAG 6
  16. ELF LSX VAG 4
  17. Motul Specific 505.01 5W40 VAG 4
  18. FACT VAG 3
8/25/09
Average wear for API ---- 4.10 ppm TWM
Average wear for VAG --- 8.38 ppm TWM

For the top 24 users in each catagory shows that API oils are 26% lower in wear over VAG oils.


“used oil analysis” Database : Instructions


1. You must submit all information in the format shown at bottom.
Use your same post for every UOA, to save space, and to make it easier to read. If you post twice, you will not be counted till you delete the second post. So, every time you get a new UOA, go back to your original post and edit it. Or add the UOA you want tabulated to the top in the required format. Link to your full UOA's below your database entry. SunRG's UOA and discussion thread is there for you, http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=154548, use it. If you want to have a separate thread for all your UOA's, then post all your UOA's in ONE thread. This will save space and you can post a link to it in your personal UOA thread. This will show all your UOA's in one click. People can then see your trend and make sense of it

2. The minimum for tabulation into the database is 5000 miles, or 125 hours if you have a meter.
One hour is equivalent to 40 miles. We have users that average less than 25 mph. Its a honor system so you need not post your lab copy of UOA, again space. It need not be your last UOA, or your best UOA, but only the one at the very top will be included. Manganese and Nickel are optional for now.

3. There are no deductions for baseline but you may deduct for VOA on a batch.
If you need to bring something to attention, send me a private message. If you need to bring attention to another poster, send a message. In the end we should be able to form norms by engine code., and as well learn about oil performance. Just because you do not have a great UOA, please post it anyway. If we do not get a wide range of posters then the data will lack accuracy. Your information may be more important than the leaders posting the lower numbers. You may have more than one engine. If you would like to add a engine then put a number at the top. If I miss it then mail me and let me know. If you wish to remain anonymous you must send me a copy of the UOA, less name and address.

THIS MUST BE AT THE TOP OF YOUR POST. ALL, that's ALL other info goes below.
# 1 - 2 etc. (if you have more than one engine, only if neccessary)

Date:
Engine Code:
Miles/Hours oil:
Miles/unit:
Oil Type:
Fe Iron:
Cr Chromium:
Al Aluminum:
Cu Copper:
Pb Lead:
Sn Tin:
Ni Nickel:
Mn Manganese:
By-Pass: "yes or no"
Top off Oil:
 
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wjdell

Top Post Dawg
Joined
May 17, 2006
Location
Central Florida
TDI
06 Jetta TDI DSG PKG 1 17" VV Campy White/Beige
2006 Tdi Pd Brm

Date04/20/09
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 8130
Miles/unit: 47264
Oil Type: Schaeffer S9000 5W40
Fe Iron: 16
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 1

Ni Nickel:0
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: yes
Top off Oil:14 oz

no engine heater - commute changed

Date:12/26/08
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 5178
Miles/unit: 44240
Oil Type: Schaeffer S9000 5W40
Fe Iron: 9
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 1
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 2

Ni Nickel:2
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: yes
Top off Oil:10 oz

Oil pan heated when temps are < 70 F


Date:7/25/08
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 7001
Miles/unit: 38293
Oil Type: VW LL III
Fe Iron: 17
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 6
Sn Tin: 1

Ni Nickel:0
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

Oil pan heated when temps are < 70 F

Date:2/25/08
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 6021
Miles/unit: 30541
Oil Type: VW LL III
Fe Iron: 15
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 1
Ni Nickel:0
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

Oil pan heated when temps are < 70 F

Date:09/17/07
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 4000
Miles/unit: 23478
Oil Type: VW LL III
Fe Iron: 22
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 2
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel:0
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

Date:06/03/07
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 4000
Miles/unit: 19478
Oil Type: Amsoil AFLI
Fe Iron: 22
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 3
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 1
Ni Nickel:0
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

Date:03/16/07
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 5000
Miles/unit: 15239
Oil Type: Motul Specific 505.01I
Fe Iron: 24
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel:1
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

Date:12/22/06
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 5009
Miles/unit: 10239
Oil Type: Motul Specific 505.01
Fe Iron: 24
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel:1
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

~ ppm ~ hrs/oil ~ mi / unit
1. 6.61 @ 132 ~ 10.0k
2. 6.82 @ 131 ~ 15.5k
3. 7.31 @ 100 ~ 19.5k
4. 7.36 @ 100 ~ 24.5k
5. 4.48 @ 150 ~ 31.3k
6. 4.57 @ 184 ~ 38.3k
7. 3.67 @ 132 ~
44.2k
7. 3,56 @ 216 - 47.2k

8. 3.31 @ 225 - 55.k

My UOA's ~~ USED OIL ANALYSIS ~ link ~~ http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=190958
 
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VFchicago88

Banned
Joined
May 6, 2006
Date: 4/16/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10,200
Miles/unit: 155,200
Oil Type: Mobil 1 TDT---NON 505.01
Fe Iron: 17
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0
insolubles % 0.3
Fuel - 2.0!!!


Date: 2/19/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 7,000
Miles/unit: 145,000
Oil Type: Mobil 1 TDT---NON 505.01
Fe Iron: 23
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 5
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0
insolubles % 0.4
fuel - 0


Date: 1/8/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 8,200
Miles/unit: 138,000
Oil Type: ELF solaris 507.00 LLX 5w30
Fe Iron: 61
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 8
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 3
insolubles %0.3
fuel --less than .5
Sn Tin: 0


Date: 11/21/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 15,000
Miles/unit: 130,000
Oil Type: elf solaris LLX 5w30 507.00
Fe Iron: 155
Cr Chromium: 3
Al Aluminum: 11
Cu Copper: 6
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 1
insolubles% 0.4
fuel ---less than 0.5
 
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phaser

Veteran Member
Joined
Apr 18, 2004
Location
Oregon
TDI
2004 Jetta PD - 490k
Date: 07/31/09
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10866
Miles/unit: 180744
Oil Type: Mobil 1 ESP Formula 507
Fe Iron: 40
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 2
Cu Copper: 1
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: Yes
Top off Oil: 0

Date: 12/07/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 9830
Miles/unit: 159905
Oil Type: Elf Solaris LLX 504/507
Fe Iron: 27
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 7
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 0

Date: 08/27/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 9942
Miles/unit: 150075
Oil Type: Elf Solaris LLX 504/507
Fe Iron: 17
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 1
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 0

Date: 01/01/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10319
Miles/unit: 130134
Oil Type: Elf Solaris LLX 504/507
Fe Iron: 29
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 10
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 0

Date: 08/22/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10097
Miles/unit: 119815
Oil Type: ELF 506.01
Fe Iron: 30
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 8
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 0
 
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thermographer

Veteran Member
Joined
May 1, 2004
Location
Maryville, Tennessee
TDI
Jetta GL, 2004 Wheat/Beige with Automatic Tiptronic, ESP
Date: 2/29/2008
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 12000
Miles/unit: 157,101
Oil Type: Castrol LL3
Fe Iron: 44
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 11
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 0
 
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fitzski

Veteran Member
Joined
Oct 13, 2004
Location
Ottawa
TDI
Uh... hmm... Well, none...
Date: 11-Feb-2008
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 15,073
Miles/unit: 79,327
Oil Type: Elf Excellium DID 505.01 5W40
Fe Iron: 40
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 5
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 0

[See the above UOA here.]

Comments... Add an Engine Code column to your Top 10 list.
"I will crown a new overall winner every month." You think we'll have that many? I know that I only do 2 or 3 UOA's per year... I think you should just leave it as the "Top" in category... no need to have a monthly competition.
 
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mparker326

Veteran Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2005
Location
Knoxville, TN
TDI
Golf 2002 Gray
Date: 8/27/2007
Engine Code: BHW Passat
Miles/oil: 7500
Miles/unit: 27500
Oil Type: Quaker State 505.01
Fe Iron: 89
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 13
Cu Copper: 9
Pb Lead: 11
Sn Tin: 0
 
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MikeB60

Veteran Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2004
Location
Columbus, GA
TDI
2002 Golf GLS
Latest
Date: 10/2/2008
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/Hours oil: 12485
Miles/unit: 133,885
Oil Type: M1 TDT
Fe Iron: 25
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 1
Mg Manganese: 1
By-Pass: No
Top off Oil: 0.5 quart

Date: 2/15/08
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 11,500
Miles/unit: 121,000
Oil Type: Mobil 1 TDT
Fe Iron: 22
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 1
 
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milehighassassin

Top Post Dawg
Joined
Mar 18, 2005
Location
Fort Collins, CO
TDI
2005 Golf TDi PD, Reflex Silver
NEWEST:

Date: 6/5/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10531
Miles/unit: 83534
Oil Type: Elf Solaris 507
Fe Iron: 58
Cr Chromium: 3
Al Aluminum: 8
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0


OLDER (but same oil):
Date: 3/4/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 5028
Miles/unit: 78005
Oil Type: Elf Solaris 507
Fe Iron: 33 (36)
Cr Chromium: 3
Al Aluminum: 12 (16)
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 0

My numbers are based off of two UOA's. I did a baseline UOA with 25 miles on this oil, so I took those numbers and minused them from my 2nd UOA.

Numbers in parenthesis are the actual number if there is a difference.


Edit... I guess this shows how much more wear you have early on the oil compared to later.

My NEW Complete UOA Thread:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=2168319
 
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DieselSmoker

Veteran Member
Joined
Jul 3, 2004
Location
Cleveland, OH
TDI
'00 Jetta
Date: 07-12-04
Engine Code: ISB

Miles/oil: 7500Miles/unit:20000
Oil Type: Delvac 1
Fe Iron:13
Cr Chromium:0
Al Aluminum:2
Cu Copper:4
Pb Lead:1
Sn Tin:0


Date: 10-27-04
Engine Code: ISB
Miles/oil: 9900
Miles/unit:29900
Oil Type: Delvac 1
Fe Iron:19
Cr Chromium:1
Al Aluminum:4
Cu Copper:4
Pb Lead:0
Sn Tin:0
 
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wjdell

Top Post Dawg
Joined
May 17, 2006
Location
Central Florida
TDI
06 Jetta TDI DSG PKG 1 17" VV Campy White/Beige
Date: 4/12/2008
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 6808
Miles/unit: 78288
Oil Type: Schaeffers S9000 5W40
Fe Iron: 21
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 0
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]
Soot Vol ---- .1% ---- .2%[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Vis 100C ---- 12.7 -– 14.1[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]This engine had 3 OCI's of Amsoil AFL and 2 of Pento TS with the last one spiked with LM MoS2 additive. The S9000 with a count of 264 ppm MoS2 was higher than the LM additive at 164 ppm. This oil also contained Antimony of 36 ppm and that could have contributed to the jump in copper. I read that sometimes Antimony will raise the Cu number. Its the first run and from what I understand a Pella was used and the cooler was not emptied. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Inheritance was a bit higher this UOA is probably better than it looks.[/FONT]

Date: 12/4/2007
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 6300
Miles/unit: 71480
Oil Type: Pento TS w/LM MoS2
Fe Iron: 22
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 0
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0

ANON # 43921
 
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John B.

Veteran Member
Joined
Feb 19, 2002
Location
Calgary
TDI
2002 Jetta GL TDI
Date:12/5/08
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 10000
Miles/unit: 90000
Oil Type: Mobil 1 TDT 5W-40 (CI-4+)
Fe Iron: 24
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 3
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0

Date:6/1/07
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 10000
Miles/unit: 70000
Oil Type: Esso Extra XD-3 0W-40
Fe Iron: 37
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 3
Cu Copper: 5
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0
 
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EVO&TDI

Active member
Joined
Nov 15, 2005
Location
Texas, USA
TDI
2012 Q7 TDI
Date:3/10/08
Engine Code:BEW
Miles/oil:9500
Miles/unit:143300
Oil Type:amsoil afl 5w40
Fe Iron:31
Cr Chromium:0
Al Aluminum:3
Cu Copper:22
Pb Lead:10
Sn Tin:0
 

04PDWagon

Veteran Member
Joined
May 31, 2006
Location
Miami, FL
TDI
04 Jetta Wagon
Purchased car w/ 44K. Performed Oil change at that time w/ Motul Technosynthese. Changed oil again at 50K with Technosyntese and left it in motor for VW recommended oil change interval. Results below.

Date: 12/19/06
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10,000
Miles/unit: 59,927

Oil Type: Motul Technosynthese
Fe Iron: 116
Cr Chromium: 4
Al Aluminum: 15

Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 1


When i pulled the above oil out, I replace it with Elf 506.01 in hopes of better mileage. I was then shocked to receive the above test results. Therefore I sample the Elf 506.01 at 5k and 10k and got the following 2 results.


Date: 2/12/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 5,273
Miles/unit: 65,200
Oil Type: Elf 506.01
Fe Iron: 58
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 9
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 1


Date: 4/5/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 9,823
Miles/unit: 69,750
Oil Type: Elf 506.01
Fe Iron: 113
Cr Chromium: 3
Al Aluminum: 12
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0


At this point i was worried. I bought some Motul engine clean...threw that into the motor before changing the oil and then used the vacuum pump I just bought to make sure that I got all of the old oil out of the filter housing/cooler etc. i still changed the oil by draining at the bottom but then used the vacuum pump to clean out the filter housing, etc. I threw in some Motul Technosyntese that I still had in the garage and hoped for the best. Results are the following:

Date: 6/19/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 5,768
Miles/unit: 75,518
Oil Type: Motul Technosyntese
Fe Iron: 45
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 5
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0


Much better. I performed another oil change at this time and filled again with Technosyntese for another short interval. I changed the oil again at 80K but forgot to sample. On both Technosyntese oil changes the magnetic drain plug looked very clean. At 80K i poured in Elf Excillium and removed it from the car at 86,965 miles. Drain plug magnet had a lot of material on it and the report was as follows:

Date: 10/6/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 5,962
Miles/unit: 86,965
Oil Type: Elf Excillium
Fe Iron: 89
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 6
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0


Worst results yet. At the above mileage I changed the oil and filled with Motul 100% Synthetic. This stayed in the motor until i changed the oil at 90K for another short interval. Drain plug looked very clean, but i forgot to sample. The car was sold with the 100% Synthetic still in the pan.

Hope this helps!
 
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leicaman

Top Post Dawg
Joined
Dec 24, 2004
Location
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
TDI
2015 Golf TDI SE, 2005 TDI GLS, RIP
Date: 11/20/2007
Engine Code: BHW
Miles/oil: 5000
Miles/unit: 39601
Oil Type: Castrol Professional OE 5w30, a 505.01 Cert. oil
Fe Iron: 36
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 0
 

Diesel Addict

Veteran Member
Joined
Mar 7, 2006
Location
Reno/Sparks, NV
TDI
2004 Jetta TDI (manual)
Date: 12/25/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 5072
Miles/unit: 36031
Oil Type: Red Line 5W40
Fe Iron: 47
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 6
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 2

Note: I don't think we should take these oil ratings too seriously as there's a few factors not taken into account here, such as the mileage on the engine, quality control on engine components, different labs being used, and in some cases unknown maintenance histories prior to our ownership.
 

pruzink

Veteran Member
Joined
Sep 25, 2004
Location
Granbury, Texas
TDI
GLS, 2004, silver
Date: 4/27/2008
Engine Code:BEW
Miles/oil:66,300
Miles/unit:8,100
Oil Type:Elf Excellium DID 5W-40
Fe Iron:17
Cr Chromium:0
Al Aluminum:3
Cu Copper:2
Pb Lead:1
Sn Tin:2



Date:8/31/2007
Engine Code:BEW
Miles/oil:9,500
Miles/unit:54,000
Oil Type:Elf Solaris LLX 507.00
Fe Iron:52
Cr Chromium:1
Al Aluminum:8
Cu Copper:4
Pb Lead:2
Sn Tin:0

Date: 10/2/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/Oil: 7500
Miles/Unit: 73,800
Oil Type: Elf Sloaris LLX
Fe Iron: 26
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 5
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0

Date: 02/28/09
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 6250
Miles/unit: 80050
Oil Type: Elf 507.00
FE Iron: 17
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 6
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 1

Date: 07/28/09
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/Oil: 8000
Miles/Unit: 88750
Oil Type: Total Quartz Ineo 507.00
Fe Iron: 24
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 6
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn tin: 0
 
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spuimatt

Veteran Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2003
Location
West Michigan
TDI
2003 Indigo Blue Golf TDI
Date: 03/13/08
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 17143
Miles/unit: 92800
Oil Type: Amsoil AME
Fe Iron: 46
Cr Chromium: 5
Al Aluminum: 12
Cu Copper: 11
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 0
 

brucetmoose

Veteran Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2006
Location
Rochester, NY
TDI
Used to own a 2002 Jetta TDI - Black/Black
Would love to post my numbers - but where do you get a UOA done

How does one go about getting a UOA done? I would love to post my numbers and I do keep careful track of what goes in, right now it's Castrol SLX but it's been others.
 

wjdell

Top Post Dawg
Joined
May 17, 2006
Location
Central Florida
TDI
06 Jetta TDI DSG PKG 1 17" VV Campy White/Beige
Date: 4/7/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10000
Miles/unit: 35555
Oil Type: Amsoil DEO
Fe Iron: 45
Cr Chromium: 4
Al Aluminum: 10
Cu Copper: 11
Pb Lead: 8
Sn Tin: 0

Date: 12/7/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 7100
Miles/unit: 32650
Oil Type: Amsoil DEO
Fe Iron: 35
Cr Chromium: 3
Al Aluminum: 7
Cu Copper: 9
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 0

Date: 6/15/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 2500
Miles/unit: 28055
Oil Type: Amsoil DEO
Fe Iron: 29
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 6
Cu Copper: 6
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 0

Date: 3/15/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10000
Miles/unit: 25000
Oil Type: Amsoil AFL
Fe Iron: 99
Cr Chromium: 11
Al Aluminum: 13
Cu Copper: 16
Pb Lead: 7
Sn Tin: 0

ANON # 20444855
This user had a previous UOA of 99 Fe in 10k and thus left 505.01 for DEO. This UOA is 320 hours so this car does some idleing, low speeds. This UOA is a complete turn around at 7.8 ppm, over 50% reduction in wear metals when compared to the last UOA which was 14.6 ppm. With only 31 ppm increase between 2500 and 10k that is closer to 4.1 ppm. Quite a turn around from 14.6 ppm in only one OC.
 
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truman

Top Post Dawg
Joined
May 18, 2000
Location
columbia,MO,usa
TDI
'05 Passat Variant, Still miss the 03JW
I've recently switched to Rotella T, so it will be interesting to see if the trend is any different
This OCI was Rotella T 5/40 I can't remember if this was the new or old formula- I think it was the old formula. No bypass and fully functional egr
Date 10/13/2008
Engine code ALH
Miles/oil 11500
Miles/unit 130000
Oil type Rotella T 5/40 Make up oil <.5qt
FE 28
CR 1
Al 3
Cu 5
Pb 1
Sn 0
ST 11
I can't see any measureable difference between MTD and Rotella- the engine runs quieter on Rotella, however. The next batch will be Rotella T again, but this one is CI4 formula, for sure.


Date: 04/07/08
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 11000
Miles/unit: 118,500
Oil Type: Mobil TD 5/40
Fe Iron: 27
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
ST: 10

Date: 09/23/07
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 9000
Miles/unit: 107,500
Oil Type: Mobil TD 5/40
Fe Iron: 21
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 2
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0
ST: 9

Date: 05/06/07
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 8800
Miles/unit: 98,600
Oil Type: Mobil TD 5/40
Fe Iron: 19
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 5
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
ST: 8
 
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Bob_Fout

Oil Wanker
Joined
Sep 5, 2004
Location
Indiana
TDI
2003 Jetta - Alaska Green (sold) / 2015 GTI 2.0T
Date: 07-16-10
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/Hours oil: 9,900 miles / 200 hours (50 MPH average speed)
Miles/unit: 125,000
Oil Type: Mobil 1 0w40
Fe Iron: 35
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 3
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 0.75 quarts

Date: 12-20-09
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/Hours oil: 8,00 miles / 171 hours (47 MPH average speed)
Miles/unit: 115,300
Oil Type: Amsoil DEO (prior formulation)
Fe Iron: 22
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 3
Cu Copper: 1
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 0.75 quarts

Date: 9-23-09
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/Hours oil: 5,700 miles / 108 hours (53 MPH average speed)
Miles/unit: 113,000
Oil Type: Amsoil DEO (prior formulation)
Fe Iron: 14
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 2
Cu Copper: 1
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: none

Date: 7-19-09
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/Hours oil: 9,500 miles
Miles/unit: 107,300
Oil Type: Amsoil DEO (prior formulation)
Fe Iron: 22
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 3
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 2
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 1/4 quart

Date: 5-9-2009
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/Hours oil: 5,500
Miles/unit: 103,300
Oil Type: Amsoil DEO (prior formulation)
Fe Iron: 11
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 2
Cu Copper: 1
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: No
Top off Oil: 1/2 quart

Date: 5-9-2009
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/Hours oil: 5,500
Miles/unit: 103,300
Oil Type: Amsoil DEO (prior formulation)
Fe Iron: 14
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 1
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: N/A
By-Pass: No
Top off Oil: 1/2 quart

Date: 8-28-2008
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 10660
Miles/unit: 88500
Oil Type: Delvac 1 ESP 5w40 CJ-4
Fe Iron: 21
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: N/A
By-Pass: No
Top off Oil: 1/2 quart

Date: 7-15-2008
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 5315
Miles/unit: 83115
Oil Type: Delvac 1 ESP 5w40 CJ-4
Fe Iron: 16
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: N/A
By-Pass: No
Top off Oil: none

Date: 3-29-2008
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 9940
Miles/unit: 77840
Oil Type: Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w40 CI-4+
Fe Iron: 26
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 6
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: N/A
By-Pass: No
Top off Oil: Don't remember how much
 
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AndyH

Registered Vendor , w/Business number
Joined
May 25, 2001
Location
San Antonio, TX
TDI
'97 Passat Wagon 410K RIP
A Torture Test or Two...

# 1
Date: 5/11/08
Engine Code: 1Z
Miles/oil: 20185
Miles/unit: 380,185
Oil Type: AMSOIL DEO (EaBP90 bypass filter - part 3 of interval started below)
Fe Iron: 66
Cr Chromium: 4
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0

Wear is coming up. To be fair, though, this is a 10,000 mile oil and the engine was 'broken' the first 3/4 of the interval. Not too shabby.

# 1
Date: 12/6/07
Engine Code: 1Z
Miles/oil: 14900
Miles/unit: 374,900
Oil Type: AMSOIL DEO (EaBP90 bypass filter - part 2 of interval started below)
Fe Iron: 29
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 7
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0

# 1
Date: 7/28/07
Engine Code: 1Z
Miles/oil: 6300
Miles/unit: 366,300
Oil Type: AMSOIL DEO (EaBP90 bypass filter - part one of interval that continues above)
Fe Iron: 19
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 5
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0

# 1
Date: 2/4/07
Engine Code: 1Z
Miles/oil: 10276
Miles/unit: 357276
Oil Type: AMSOIL DEO (no bypass filter)
Fe Iron: 43
Cr Chromium: 4
Al Aluminum: 6
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0

# 1
Date: 7/6/06
Engine Code: 1Z
Miles/oil: 14300
Miles/unit: 337,300
Oil Type: AMSOIL AFL (torture test)
Fe Iron: 108
Cr Chromium: 10
Al Aluminum: 8
Cu Copper: 5
Pb Lead: 15
Sn Tin: 0

The rest of the story... (reference the top three reports)

This is my first run with a 6" AMSOIL bypass filter installed. 6.0 quarts capacity. Oil was installed 10 Apr 07.

For the past year the engine has taken longer to get up to temp - thermostat slowly failing. The engine never got up to 195 - 160-165 was the norm. Fuel burn was way up as was soot generation. (Fuel mileage was running 36-39; max tank was 948 miles.) The thermostat was changed when I pulled the top sample. I ran the oil to 20,000 miles because I want to see how the bypass filter cleans up the 3% soot now that fueling has returned to normal. (Soot: 6300 miles: 1.6% 14900 miles 3.0% 10185 miles 2.3% The filter works!)

AFL torture test: Ran hard, heavy and long to see how the oil would perform. Had an Upsolute stage 1 chip installed for part of the interval. Regularly hauled 1000+ lb loads. While loaded and chipped (and heading to Waterfest), 'played with' 1/2 ton pickup trucks up Appalachians from Eastern TN thru SW Virginia. WHeeeee! (Glad it was nighttime...that Up chip did smoke...)
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# 2
Date: 11/4/2003
Engine Code: 1Z
Miles/oil: 14900
Miles/unit: 113000
Oil Type: AMSOIL HDD 5W-30 (no bypass filter)
Fe Iron: 41
Cr Chromium: 15
Al Aluminum: 8
Cu Copper: 5
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 0

This was my '96 sedan with known dirty rings

# 2
Date: 6/27/02
Engine Code: 1Z
Miles/oil: 9000
Miles/unit: 91777
Oil Type: Rotella T 5W-40 (Oilguard bypass filter)
Fe Iron: 55
Cr Chromium: 28
Al Aluminum: 9
Cu Copper: 13
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 5

This was my '96 sedan with known dirty rings
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# 3
Date: 7/23/06
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 10244
Miles/unit: 20344
Oil Type: Motul 505.01
Fe Iron: 70
Cr Chromium: 4
Al Aluminum: 15
Cu Copper: 15
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 0
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# 4
Date: 7/23/07
Engine Code: 06 Jetta
Miles/oil: 10000
Miles/unit: 40000
Oil Type: AMSOIL AFL
Fe Iron: 40
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 12
Cu Copper: 8
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 0
 
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icecap

Veteran Member
Joined
Apr 10, 2007
Location
Chilliwack & Mission BC
TDI
2006.5 Jetta TDI 5Spd Black Anthracite Pkg 1
#5 Sample taken at 5,000 mile mid service interval. Added 1/2L of oil after sample taken to bring level to full mark.
Date: 12/16/08
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/Oil 5,000
Miles/unit: 25,000
Oil Type: Castrol SLX Pro OE
Fe Iron: 30
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 13 ???
ST Soot: 14
#4
Date: 7/30/2008
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 10,000
Miles/unit: 20,000
Oil Type: Castrol SLX Pro OE
Fe Iron: 34
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 3
Cu Copper: 7
Pb Lead: 7
Sn Tin: 1
Soot: 16

Dealer serviced, first 10,000 mile oil change interval and second oil change with SLX Pro OE.

Same SLX oil as above sampled at midpoint 5,000 miles
#3
Date: 4/14/08
Fe Iron: 20
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 0
Soot: 3

# 2
Date: 11/16/07
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 3,600
Miles/unit: 9,900
Oil Type: Valvoline Durablend 505.01
Fe Iron: 29
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 5
Cu Copper: 5
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 4
#1
Date: 07/23/07
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 1,600
Miles/unit: 6,560
Oil Type: Valvoline Durablend 505.01
Fe Iron: 14
Cr Chromium:1
Al Aluminium:4
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 0

First oil sample at only 1,600 miles due to my service invoice from the first oil change indicating that Castrol Syntec had been put in and not believing the dealer that it was a computer error that put Syntec on the invoice. I was shown a barrel of the bulk Valvoline product that was put in. Second oil change Castrol SLX Pro was put in.

All UOA processed by Caterpillar dealer Finning
 
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Braga_Dub

Veteran Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2001
Location
Boca Raton, FL
TDI
MK4 ALH Golf
Date: 3/26/08
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 8,000
Miles/unit: 83,000
Oil Type: Elf Excellium DID 5w40
Fe Iron: 13
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 1
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 2
 

Hurst89

Veteran Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2007
Location
Kentucky
TDI
2005.5 Pkg 0 5spd TDI
Date: 3-22-08
Engine Code: BRM (05.5 Jetta)
Miles/oil: 9,891
Miles/unit: 47,000
Oil Type: Elf DID 5w40
Fe Iron:249
Cr Chromium: 5
Al Aluminum: 12
Cu Copper: 8
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 0
 

Brock_from_WI

Veteran Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2002
Location
Green Bay, WI USA
TDI
2003 wagon
Date: 01/28/08
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 11,500
Miles/unit:70,000
Oil Type: ELF CRV
Fe Iron: 59
Cr Chromium: 6
Al Aluminum: 8
Cu Copper: 9
Pb Lead: 11
Sn Tin: 0

Date: 03/10/07
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 10,000
Miles/unit:58,500
Oil Type: Delvac1
Fe Iron: 42
Cr Chromium: 5
Al Aluminum: 8
Cu Copper: 7
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 0

Date: 07/01/06
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 10,000
Miles/unit:50,000
Oil Type: Delvac1
Fe Iron: 76
Cr Chromium: 11
Al Aluminum: 12
Cu Copper: 13
Pb Lead: 8
Sn Tin: 0

Date: 10/25/05
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 10,000
Miles/unit:40,000
Oil Type: Delvac1
Fe Iron: 51
Cr Chromium: 8
Al Aluminum: 9
Cu Copper: 11
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 1

Date: 02/09/05
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 10,000
Miles/unit:30,000
Oil Type: Delvac1
Fe Iron: 49
Cr Chromium: 9
Al Aluminum: 11
Cu Copper: 13
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0
 
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MarbleTDI

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 12, 2007
Location
Newington, Ct.
TDI
2002 Jetta
Date:3/28/08
Engine Code:ALH
Miles/oil:11,080
Miles/unit:114,500
Oil Type:5w-30 ESP Mobil 1 507
Fe Iron:82
Cr Chromium:3
Al Aluminum:7
Cu Copper:6
Pb Lead:12
Sn Tin:0


Date:1/14/08
Engine Code:ALH
Miles/oil:7,832
Miles/unit:103,520
Oil Type:5w-30 ESP Mobil 1 507
Fe Iron:43
Cr Chromium:2
Al Aluminum:4
Cu Copper:3
Pb Lead:3
Sn Tin:0
 
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gern

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 12, 2006
Location
MN
TDI
2003 Jetta GLS TDI,
Date:3/28/08
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 8500
Miles/unit:142,500
Oil Type: Elf Excellium DID 5W-40
Fe Iron: 44
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0
 
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