studder at idle

jbuddy

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Hampton NB
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03 Jetta TDI
I replaced my fuel pump on my standard 2003 jetta alh with an 11mm pump and now the car idles really rough most of the time. Group 1 IQ shows 0.8
I tried adjusting the IQ with vcds to bring it up but just made it worse so
put it back to stock. I changed fuel filter and preheater valve as well.
Did a diesel purge. I"m puzzled, any ideas what I should try next.
thanks
 

csstevej

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2001 golf tdi 4 door auto now a manual, mine, 2000 golf 2 door M/T son's,daughters 98 NB non-TDI 2.0, 2003 TDI NB for next daughter, head repaired and on road,gluten for punishment got another tdi 2001NB,another yellow tdi NB
Yeah you need to raise it up to about 4-4.5.
If you cannot do it through VCDS than you may need to do the hammer mod.
 

BobnOH

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central Ohio
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New Beetle 2003 manual
Never seen one that low, (0.8). Car wants to see Injected quantity: 2.2 - 9.0 mg/H, ECU takes over from there. Most factory set at 2.2, don't know if that's any different for 11mm pump, shouldn't be. This has been discussed ad nauseam, most like a number around 4, but it should operate anywhere within range.
Seems counter intuitive, but hammer mod seems to work best in cases like yours. Loosen, hit it (youtube has video), tighten, then fine tune with VCDS as you like.
 

Mongler98

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98 Jetta TDI AHU 1.9L (944 TDI swap in progress)
0.8 is crazy low, i cant belive it actually runs. i would suspect your timing might be off a bit and thus it can run this low. the most i have seen is 1.4 to run properly at idle. I ran 1.2 to 1.4 on my AHU but it did shudder now and again randomly at stops but not enough to give 2 s's
 

jbuddy

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Hampton NB
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03 Jetta TDI
So it was a used 11mm pump. I loved the power but fuel mileage dropped

and of course at idle it was really rough. I put another 10mm pump on

and it idles perfectly however on a hill under load it went into limp mode.
It hadn't gone into limp mode for the month I was driving it with the 11mm
pump. I don't understand that, any ideas? Fuel mileage is more important
to me so now I have to determine why limp mode. Code p0299 came up.
Underboost. Timing is retarded and needs to be advanced which I will do
this weekend. If 11mm pump would have idled properly and mileage not so
bad I think I would have stayed because the power was awesome.
 

csstevej

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2001 golf tdi 4 door auto now a manual, mine, 2000 golf 2 door M/T son's,daughters 98 NB non-TDI 2.0, 2003 TDI NB for next daughter, head repaired and on road,gluten for punishment got another tdi 2001NB,another yellow tdi NB
SERIOUSLY......have you not read the previous posts ???
The fix would have taken you about 10 mins........ not a couple of hours to swap out pumps and retime the engine.
 
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