Bob_Fout
Oil Wanker
The big signs that face the interstate are normally the state tax exempt prices for truckers who pay road tax based on how many miles in each state they drive. Auto diesel prices are often a smaller sign, or are at the pump.
Stories when filling up at "gasoline station"
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Weird we just didn't see that tax exempt thing on the huge sign...maybe we did miss it :/ Sure is misleading.
Bob_Fout
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It's either not on the sign or is in very small type.
jimnms
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I'm still scratching my head as to why VW stopped using the large filler hole on diesel cars. My '05 will take the big nozzle, and good thing too as a few times on the highway I've pulled over to get fuel when the light came on and the only station within range was a truck stop with large nozzles.
Mine won't take anything larger than the normal "leaded gasoline" 15/16" one.
The filler pipe from the cap to the tank is too small for any other one, it would just auto-shutoff and make me angrily hold the handle open a tiny amount to dribble fuel in.
PlaneCrazy
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It's quite simple. They put in a special restrictor so that only the car-sized diesel nozzle will fit, but the smaller unleaded gasoline-sized nozzle won't. The car-sized one will operate a flapper valve that will open the filler pipe but the smaller one won't.
It's because too many folks were pumping RUG into their diesels and grenading the high-pressure fuel pump as a result. I guess they couldn't come up with a design that would also fit the fat truck nozzle.
romad
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That is because the large truck nozzles are on high-flow pumps - up to 35 GPM. Car pumps are restricted by the EPA to 10 GPM max.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dispenser
Indiana is weird that way (among many other ways) The truck price is minus sales tax - 7%. To further confuse things, there are cash and credit prices posted.
When you get away from interstate exits, the price you see is the price you pay - usually.
When you get away from interstate exits, the price you see is the price you pay - usually.
romad
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I don't think the stations would put a higher flow pump for diesel on their combo dispensers; they'd use the same type that they use for the gasoline and ethanol sections.
I have been duped by it thanks to folks entering the wrong amount into the Gasbuddy app.
I bet some people see the awesome price on Gasbuddy while driving and plan it as a fuel stop. Only to find out that they are on fumes and paying way too much for diesel.
czeetah
Veteran Member
Same thing happens here with the stations that post "with a car wash" price.
Big sign says "unleaded $3.05/gallon, (smaller letters), with car wash"
And people drive buy at stick $3.05 in gasbuddy when real price is say $3.25
jimnms
Veteran Member
I've seen some diesel pumps that have the same size nozzle as the gas pumps. That would suck to not be able to get fuel if you happen to stop at a station with one of those. I've seen an adapter for the large nozzles to fit smaller filler necks because some newer diesel pickups don't take the big nozzles either.
PlaneCrazy
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VW sells an adapter that can be used when a RUG-sized nozzle is used on a diesel pump (and I think it can also fit a fat truck nozzle). I don't have one because I've never encountered that problem around here. Perhaps I should get one in case I travel outside the area and am stuck. In theory if you're really stuck you can trickle in diesel from a nozzle that won't fit, but it's not a picnic (the flap is not a tight seal), but it could potentially bail you out of trouble or allow you to at least fill enough to do a couple of hundred kilometres to find another station.
kjclow
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BMW dealers have the adapter too and have been reported to bess lower priced than the VW one. In over 14 years of driving diesels, I've only encountered the truck nozzles twice. Never low enough on fuel that I couldn't hit the next station down the road.
Lightflyer1
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Or just don't wait until you are completely empty to fuel. Then if you encounter this, just move on to the next station. No adapters needed! I also have a tool (a simple pick) with me to remove the restriction if needed, in an emergency. I encountered this on vacation in New Orleans. We were out on the road that runs out the Mississippi delta (hwy 23) near (Old Ft. Jackson historic site) Venice. Very little out there. 1st two pumps didn't fit, the third one did.
lovemybug
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I'm glad I can fit the truck nozzle into my car. Just have to be careful about how fast I fill it. I've had to do that before because the car nozzle wasn't working.
naturist
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Yeah, in 2009, facing my first cross-country tow with the TT and the Jeep, I found the VW adapter was $11, and the identical BMW one was $6, so I bought one from the local BMW dealer. Drove all the way from Virginia to Michigan's UP, across US 2 to Redmond, WA, across the Olympic Peninsula, down the Pac Coast Highway to LA, then east along I-40 and back to Virginia and never once needed the thing. It is still in the back of the Jeep "in case."
Just bought a 2012 BMW X5 diesel, and lo and behold, guess what BMW has taken to providing in their diesels? This one is still in plastic wrap, and still in the back where they put it.
So, don't go and buy one, folks. I very much doubt you'll ever need it. Anywhere.
TDI in MT
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Saw this at a gas station in Great Falls, MT today (look at the left side dispenser). And yes, I was filling up a gasser:
http://pics.tdiclub.com/showfull.php?photo=106808
http://pics.tdiclub.com/showfull.php?photo=106808
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ymz
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scooperhsd
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Some interesting stuff today -
This weekend, the wife and me took a 3 day weekend out the Tteh NC beaches (stayed on Hatteras island). Got home this afternoon, and I was filling up at a local station (btw - that fillup netted 46.6 MPG for the beach trip - not too shaby for PP502's and RC Stage 2), a guy in an older Mercedes 300 station wagon ( diesel of course) swung by while I was filling up. he made a comment about how diesels were so great, and he had 305,000 miles on his. I replied - "I have 318,000 miles (true statement) and we had just made a trip to the beach and back (540 miles) on a single tank".... I'm sure his wagon was older than my Beetle...
This weekend, the wife and me took a 3 day weekend out the Tteh NC beaches (stayed on Hatteras island). Got home this afternoon, and I was filling up at a local station (btw - that fillup netted 46.6 MPG for the beach trip - not too shaby for PP502's and RC Stage 2), a guy in an older Mercedes 300 station wagon ( diesel of course) swung by while I was filling up. he made a comment about how diesels were so great, and he had 305,000 miles on his. I replied - "I have 318,000 miles (true statement) and we had just made a trip to the beach and back (540 miles) on a single tank".... I'm sure his wagon was older than my Beetle...
romad
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And how is this a filling up story? It belongs in the Road Trips section not Fuel and Lubricants.
Cha2ga
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Because he said it happened while he was filling up.
romad
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Sorry, I see nothing about filling up in these sentences:
"We were on the Outer Banks last week, too. All the way up in Corolla, though.
"Best weather all week was for the drive back to MA on Saturday."
As I understand it, "Stories when..." is about incidents when you pull into a "gas" station with a diesel. Like: clueless drivers blocking the only diesel pump, meeting another TDI or diesel car driver, well-intentioned people trying to help you not put diesel in your "gas" tank, etc.
Based on your reasoning, I should post "I drove down to Sacramento last week" because, 1.) I filled up sometime in the weeks before I drove down, 2.) I attended a meeting at a restaurant that was down the street from a truck stop.
Dozenspeed
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Allright mine has a bit of a spin.....
At a 12 pumper with two combos and a $3.18 price. One of my haunts. I go to my favorite, but the attendant can't get the pump to turn on. So I move the car and try the other side of it with sucess. While finishing, a red Golf TDI pulls up to the broken pump. I tell him "Hey just so you know I'm over here because they couldn't get that pump to work for me."
"Well I'm getting diesel, so..."
So I go hit the head and then pay. The attendant comes back in from telling him the pump is broken, whom I told I had tried to tell him. Heading back out to the car, he's standing by his looking impatient. As I'm getting ready to leave he whips his Golf around right onto the bumper of my car and gives me the Duramax attitude, like he had no clue he was waiting on a fellow TDIer.
At a 12 pumper with two combos and a $3.18 price.
One of my haunts. I go to my favorite, but the attendant can't get the pump to turn on. So I move the car and try the other side of it with sucess. While finishing, a red Golf TDI pulls up to the broken pump. I tell him "Hey just so you know I'm over here because they couldn't get that pump to work for me.""Well I'm getting diesel, so..."
So I go hit the head and then pay. The attendant comes back in from telling him the pump is broken, whom I told I had tried to tell him. Heading back out to the car, he's standing by his looking impatient. As I'm getting ready to leave he whips his Golf around right onto the bumper of my car and gives me the Duramax attitude, like he had no clue he was waiting on a fellow TDIer.
romad
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I'll bet he was embarrassed when he saw the TDI badge as you pulled away. Hopefully the station staffer put an "Out of Order" bag over the diesel nozzle.So I go hit the head and then pay. The attendant comes back in from telling him the pump is broken, whom I told I had tried to tell him. Heading back out to the car, he's standing by his looking impatient. As I'm getting ready to leave he whips his Golf around right onto the bumper of my car and gives me the Duramax attitude, like he had no clue he was waiting on a fellow TDIer.
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Dozenspeed
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Mm, I got the sense he had his head so far up he didn't notice it was a VW....much less appreciate my immediate vacating of the space rather than after I recorded my fueling data, answered 4 texts, checked my makeup and did some shopping on the Amazon App.......
I was probably the ass blocking his diesel pump when there are 10 other pumps available!