Should I be Rustproofing My VW??

[BIOWERX]

I've go an 05 Golf and live on the East Coast. Do these cars already come with their own rustproofing? Will having my car rustproofed be detrimental in any way?

 

[boraTDI04]

im assuming u are talking about under body washes with chemicals and stuff along w/ waxing paint, etc. right?

 

[dieseldorf]

Will having my car rustproofed be detrimental in any way?

Yeah, it'll void your 12 yr factory rust warranty. How would you feel about that

 

[BIOWERX]

What gets me is that the warranty only covers "perforation". Plenty of rust can show up and not cause perforation. Who wants to wait for a hole in their car before the factory rust warranty is brought up?

I was told by rustcheck that they spray into existing body holes and into holes that they drill.
What makes me a bit weary is that i wouldn't want any drain holes blocked.

 

[Joe_Meehan]

Don't Do It!


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It does not need it, it can interfer with the very good rusproffing from the factory and it can void the rust warranty or any warranty coverage that may involve rust.​

 

[oilhammer]

Don't Do It!



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It does not need it, it can interfer with the very good rusproffing from the factory and it can void the rust warranty or any warranty coverage that may involve rust.​

X2!!!!

 

[Dimitri16V]

you can get wax and spray that in body cavities but the undercoating is pretty good on VWs. Unless the coating is missing, I would not worry about it

 

[otbBlaine]

Your Golf is galvanized from the factory.

 

[Joe_Meehan]

you can get wax and spray that in body cavities but the undercoating is pretty good on VWs. Unless the coating is missing, I would not worry about it

Spraying that wax stuff in body cavities can block the engineered drains and cause rust. That is why it will vold your VW rust warranty.

 

[oilhammer]

My 16...almost 17..year old Jetta is STILL oosing the factory black rustproofing from its insides in the summer heat. I swear they must have put 200 pounds of that stuff in there. But, no rust on it!

 

[Dimitri16V]

Spraying that wax stuff in body cavities can block the engineered drains and cause rust. That is why it will vold your VW rust warranty.

It is already sprayed in the factory, so spraying more to replace what's lost, it won't hurt anything.
Stop reading VW bible

 

[Joe_Meehan]

It is already sprayed in the factory, so spraying more to replace what's lost, it won't hurt anything.
Stop reading VW bible

The correct amount of the correct stuff was sprayed in at the factory. This is not a case of more is better. Also it is not lost, you don't burn it and it is not scraped off.

BTW this is not limited to VW's most cars made today have good protection and additional protection is not only not needed but can cause damage.

 

[tasdrouille]

Do any of you guys actually had to deal with REAL rust? 16 yo car with no additionnal rustproofing whatsoever and no rust! You live in a place where rust is not a problem else that car would have long been rusted through.

Especially since you live in New Brunswick, you should get it oil spayed every year before winter. The wax in the cavities eventually forms little cracks and will let moisture through. Oil will seal those cracks and better penetrate. The undercoating will also get damaged too in some places eventually, and as soon as there is 1 small hole, moisture gets in and rust spreads.

Honestly, TDI or not, you're in the wrong place to ask about rustproofing, as for most of the people here rust is not an issue where they live.

 

[oilhammer]

We get plenty of rust here. They salt the streets like mad all the time. That's why on a quiet night in Missouri you can hear a Japanese car rust.

I have found that simply keeping the car clean, waxed, and liberal doses of WD-40 on its undersides at every service go a long way.

But our winters are not nearly as harsh as those further north, but we get the ice crap that causes the salt trucks to spew everywhere. Not much snow, which can be plowed to the side, or driven over and packed down.

That is where that term "rust belt" came from, because folks in the middle of the hemisphere get the worst stuff, people far south get no snow or ice at all, people far north it is so cold that salt won't work anyways and the air is so thin and dry you get the light fluffy snow and not the heavy wet nasty crap. Seems like Michigan, New York, Ontario, etc. are the worst areas for rust.

We get that cold-thaw-cold-thaw stuff. That is where the rust comes in.

 

[oilhammer]

Granted I also try and drive a sacrificial car in the bad weather, to keep my Volkswagens out of it. Last winter I drove a Plymouth Sundance for a few of the worst days. Before that it was always my '87 B2000 (which was a rust bucket!). Still shopping for a winter car for this year, but I think I found a '92 Civic with a blown head gasket for nothing.

 

[rodejetta]

1. Toyota has its rust research centre here in Halifax, out of all places possible in the world. That says something.
2. In winter, coming from a building often there is a 5 cm thick white layer on the roads. Driving over them the sounds make you aware that it is pure salt, not a flake of snow or crystal of ice.
3. I noticed in the doorframe of my 2001 jetta some rust on a spot that does not rub against anything and is not touchable when getting in or out of the car.
4. Had a look at some of the even newer VWs at my local repair shop. RUST!
Do I trust the VW warranty? I'd like to keep the car beyond the 12 (in my car 6) years of their warranty, hence had it rustproved under and inside. But what do I know...
Winter here lasts many months!

Hans

 

[afarfalla]

undercoat

Biowerx.. I under coat all my cars they run much quieter, and I let them put in as much rust proofing as they want to, it usually ooozzes out all the weep holes.. trust me if a warranty rust items surfaces the stealership will find some way to wiggle out of paying... go for it

 

[BIOWERX]

Thanks for the responses, even as varied as they have been.

 

[PDJetta]

Granted I also try and drive a sacrificial car in the bad weather, to keep my Volkswagens out of it. Last winter I drove a Plymouth Sundance for a few of the worst days. Before that it was always my '87 B2000 (which was a rust bucket!). Still shopping for a winter car for this year, but I think I found a '92 Civic with a blown head gasket for nothing.

We use my wife's Buick on snowy weeks in the winter and the TDI stays in the garage!

--Nate

 

[Joe_Meehan]

Biowerx.. I under coat all my cars they run much quieter, ..

That is a plus. Usually it will reduce noise, at least a little.

 

[Dimitri16V]

The correct amount of the correct stuff was sprayed in at the factory. This is not a case of more is better. Also it is not lost, you don't burn it and it is not scraped off.

BTW this is not limited to VW's most cars made today have good protection and additional protection is not only not needed but can cause damage.

this is why sometimes I want to quit this forum. How the hell do you know that the "correct amount of the correct stuff" was sprayed in at the factory ? where you there ? VWs get shipped to dealers with trim parts missing from the factory . you think the average Joe in mexico or brazil gives a crap about your car ?
I have had multiple 80s Vws and always used wax or additional rustproof on them and never had one develop rust.
and BTW, if you wanna admire the "properly engineered" drains , pull the fender liner out of your car and redmove scoops of mud clogging the drains. Nice engineering...
People have to stop drink VW's Kool -aid....

 

[Joe_Meehan]

How the hell do you know that the "correct amount of the correct stuff" was sprayed in at the factory ?

My money is on the factory to know and to apply the correct amounts of the proper materials as opposed to some guy at the local rustproofing and bear drive though who may have never seen a VW up close before.

 

[oilhammer]

"Ziebart" ruined my dad's F150. They caused more harm than good, without a doubt.

 

[tasdrouille]

How the hell do you know that the "correct amount of the correct stuff" was sprayed in at the factory ?

My money is on the factory to know and to apply the correct amounts of the proper materials as opposed to some guy at the local rustproofing and bear drive though who may have never seen a VW up close before.

I agree. Problem is the question has been asked here to people who have seen quite a few rusted VW up close before.

 

[Dimitri16V]

"Ziebart" ruined my dad's F150. They caused more harm than good, without a doubt.

Ford trucks are rustbuckets. I checked 3 Expeditions with my boss and all have crusty metal underneath.

 

[zslnk]

I'm in Canada too, the cars that are 10+ years old here and driven in the winter have had RustCheck or Krown every year. I realize it may be a solvent for the original wax spray but it wicks and works. Anyone who has had this done (not Ziebart or coatings) swears by it.
Craig

 

[general lee]

Look at Canadian tire, they have a device which you put on your car. It has all the right principles. You can order it online if you aren't near a CT. I have 15yrs experience in the industrial coatings industry, 10 teaching/applying, 5 applying.
The principal which they speak of for the product is sound.

 

[Joe_Meehan]

"Look at Canadian tire, they have a device which you put on your car."

As I understand it that is the low current thing. It does work well on bridges, buildings and a few other uses, but it does not work well on cars as it can't be properly grounded.

 

[general lee]

BIOWERX you are 100% correct. A bunch of varied opions. They are like a$$holes...... eveyones got one. You are also correct about drain holes, they must remain open. Good luck!

 

[icecap]

Don't do it.

Don't Do It!





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It does not need it, it can interfer with the very good rusproffing from the factory and it can void the rust warranty or any warranty coverage that may involve rust.​

I just purchased a new 2006 Jetta in April and had an intense sales pitch for having it done and decided not too for several reasons. New car rust protection is good to begin with and 12 year rust perforation warranty is excellent coverage.

The last time I had it done to a new car was in the late 80's when Ziebart was a big deal I had the deluxe super duper treatment including inside doors, windshield pillars, rocker panels and extra heavy duty undercoating. The car rusted as badly if not worse than if I would not have had it done. I was an ardent skier at the time and the car had a lot of exposure to road salt. After a few years the additional undercoating came loose from the chassis but didn't come right off traping the wet and road salt between the chassis and the lose undercoating making it rust at warp speed.