Shine 'n' Show Criteria ;- ))

dieseldorf

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Folks, when are we going to review the Guidelines for Fairness and Consistency in Judging ? I have every intention of taking 1st place and need to know what's doin'


Thx.
 

tdipoet

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oh, i'm sorry tom... you can't enter.

the show and shine is only for TDIs that get DRIVEN.

you can enter the buick in the "other" category, however.
 

dieseldorf

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just post the criteria....it will determine which TDi I am going to prep
 

Lug_Nut

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There will be several judges, each with their own preferences and opinions. Each will be judging based on their own personal level of desirability.

I've been in shows and come in fifth place of the five in my class. The next day, another show, another state, another set of judges, I took Best in Show of over 350 VWs entered.
 

tdipoet

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what jon means, tom, is "we got your criteria right heah."

enter the jetta... it's a beautiful car. you've done enough to the thing that it's not just nice because of its low miles.

There will be several judges, each with their own preferences and opinions. Each will be judging based on their own personal level of desirability.
for example, if one such judge were to find some tasty hamsterdiesel brownies sitting under the hood, or in the front seat, that might have an effect on the desirability level...
 

dieseldorf

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if one such judge were to find some tasty hamsterdiesel brownies sitting under the hood, or in the front seat, that might have an effect on the desirability level...
 

jettafock

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Is there a place that we can wash our cars before the shine n show? If not, where is a good place near by that we can wash our cars?
Dan
 

Hamsterdiesel

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what jon means, tom, is "we got your criteria right heah."
for example, if one such judge were to find some tasty hamsterdiesel brownies sitting under the hood, or in the front seat, that might have an effect on the desirability level...
Heh heh heh...


Seems MY criteria is here, too!

Better get baking...
 

dieseldorf

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well, we'll have to let the "judges" decide what's more tantalizing, fattening brownies or a strategically placed vial of Aquapel and maybe even an ultra-plush MF polishing towel
 

PeterV

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DD forfit the 1/2 HP crown and we can talk....

Oh but
Torque rules... So Poet and I vote for Hamster brownies.
 

tdipoet

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there won't be a place on site, but we'll map the nearest touchless car wash for you all.
 

dieseldorf

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back on topic:

So, I understand we’ll be measured on the basics which would included a straight, properly aligned body, bright paint and chrome free of defects or blemishes, perfect soft and hard trim interiors, engine compartments and luggage compartments clean and detailed, and all mechanical components and systems to be in proper operating order* in compliance with the manufacturer's original build specifications.


Do tires/wheels have to be the proper size, matching, perfect tread, etc.?

Are we seeking 100% originality? Will points be deducted for deviation from originality and correctness?

Do we need to be concerned with the undercarriage, wheel wells, stuff like that?

I’d like to enter the Daily Driver/Modified class but in all fairness need to know if upgrading with OE parts is going to result in points deduction….that kind of stuff can be the deal killer.


In addition, what is the formula for mileage penalties and bonuses?

Thx.


*MAFS not included
 

ALCO

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I'm so tired of competing against B4's! What chance does a poor little A3 Jetta stand? Sigh...
 

Lug_Nut

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Do tires/wheels have to be the proper size, matching, perfect tread, etc.?

Are we seeking 100% originality? Will points be deducted for deviation from originality and correctness?

Do we need to be concerned with the undercarriage, wheel wells, stuff like that?

I’d like to enter the Daily Driver/Modified class but in all fairness need to know if upgrading with OE parts is going to result in points deduction….that kind of stuff can be the deal killer. In addition, what is the formula for mileage penalties and bonuses?
Tires should be a matched set of four. I personally don't care if they are custom built Avons or off the rack Generals. They will need to "look" correct. That is, unless the vehicle on which they are mounted is obviously autocross dedicated, I wouldn't add points for smaller diameter, slick treaded tires. Side wall scuffs from incorrect offset will likewise not be a way of gaining points if I am one of the judges.
Stock, Modified and Unlimited won't exist as categories this year. The cars are being grouped by body. Stock appearing cars only need to be free of damage, rust, fabric stains and tears, spotlessly clean, including ALL nooks and crevices, to do well. Modified cars have to be modified in such a way that the modification looks as if VW designed the change. Any changed components will have to be adequately integrated, installed, secured and should "appear" to belong. Modifications, if done poorly in the opinion of the judge, will result in a point deduction, rather than a point increase.
The odometer points "reward" those that maintain a good looking car and use it regularly. A new car is easy to make look nice. The same is true for a car used infrequently. The odometer points will help those that drive much more and have to deal with the inevitable gravel rash and other debris impacts remain on par with the lower mileage but similar vintage entries.
The plan is to have several judges, each with a specific area of all cars to inspect. The judge of the A3 engine bays will also be judging the A4, B4, B5.5 engine bays to maintain consistency. Another judge will inspect the interiors of all cars, and so forth. The total of points will determine the ranking within the body style classes.
There will also be an overall winner from all classes as chosen by the spectators. The overall winner may or may not necessarily be the class winner as chosen by the appointed judges. The overall winner, if also a class winner, will be awarded only the higher rank award of the people's choice. Those in that overall winner's class that were selected as winners by the judges will each move up one position.
 

Jetter_Sprinta

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Do we need to be concerned with the undercarriage, wheel wells, stuff like that?
I have a special pair of shoes w/ mirrors attached
!
Really though, I am not going be checking the undersides too closely, if you muffler is dragging expect a deduction.


I'm so tired of competing against B4's! What chance does a poor little A3 Jetta stand? Sigh...
Not to worry, A3's one class..B4's another! Chris would appreciate if you left yours at home, she is concerned that you may be putting too many miles on
!
 

tomo366

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You are lucky I sold my B4 and my A3.....
B5.5 is looking pretty good though,Got another coat of Zaino on this evening.
 

Jetter_Sprinta

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Tom, funny, I mentioned that to Chris after our last post. Of course the potential exists for those pampered vehicles to show up!
Chris wants to sell you her car for this week then buy it back before the show! I'm going today to p/u mine from being on loan for the past six weeks, time is tight to get her fest ready.
 

tdipoet

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i'm pretty sure tomo knows... just wants to eliminate some of the competition.
 

dieseldorf

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for clean Mk4 diesels


 

jettafock

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So how about an A4 PD division? Also, will we need to make a list of all the mods that are done to the car?
Dan
 
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