Replacing a clutch on MK7. Suggestions?

[Flybuzz]

Hello.
I started noticing the revs jumping and coming back down quickly when my Golf Sportswagen is in 5th gear at around 2.1K rpm. I guess it is the plate slipping under the force from the turbo that kicks in.
The car has around 80K miles on the clock, Stage 2 Malone tune.
I will be looking for a shop to do the replacement.
So, my questions are as follows:
1. How do I select the kit? By manufacturer and by the torque its capable to handle? My understanding is I can ask the dealer the info on what flywheel my car has and buy the kit from that manufacturer. Does this sound right?
2. Does the shop have to have any additional qualifications specific to MK7 VW? Should my mechanic that did the clutch job on my Miata be able to do the work on the VW?
3. It would be wise to replace the clutch releasing bearing and the rear main seal at the same time. Correct?
I appreciate your help.

 

[adjat84th]

The 02Q 6spd is similar to the 02M that's been used by various VW models since I think the '04 R32..meaning it's nothing special.
I highly recommend the Sachs SRE kit from Darkisde. It'll come with a new dual mass flywheel, and the better Sachs slave cylinder. The organic disc version of the kit will hold 400ft-lbs of torque AND will drive like stock.
The engagement is super smooth, but the engagement height changed for me (was pretty high off the floor), so I grabbed one of these to put the engagement height closer to the bottom of pedal travel.

 

[Flybuzz]

Thank you Adjat84th.
I'm wondering if sintered disk would be miserable to drive?
I'm not sure I need it, I definitely do not race the car. I might try to do a track day next year on my friend's invitation, but not planning doing it on the regular basis so far.
What I do is sometimes towing with a small uhaul trailer with that car. Never had a problem, but thinking it's worth being mentioned.
I checked with the dealer on the flywheel installed and they gave me this info: P/N 03L 105 266 CC
That is not listed in the description on the page that you linked in your post. Is that critical?

 

[RIP TDI]

I checked with the dealer on the flywheel installed and they gave me this info: P/N 03L 105 266 CC
That is not listed in the description on the page that you linked in your post. Is that critical?

OE clutch components are LUK, not Sachs and components are not interchangeable between the 2 OEMs.

 

[adjat84th]

You do not need the sintered disc, it's overkill and not as pleasant to drive. Shoot an email to darkside and ask, but I'm near 100% that kit I linked is what I used before my current setup even though our part numbers aren't included on the page.
What RIP is pointing out is correct, you can't use a Sachs disc or pressure plate with a LUK flywheel for instance. But, the kit I linked includes a flywheel which is considered preventative maintenance once you have the gearbox off.

 

[Daemon64]

You do not need the sintered disc, it's overkill and not as pleasant to drive. Shoot an email to darkside and ask, but I'm near 100% that kit I linked is what I used before my current setup even though our part numbers aren't included on the page.
What RIP is pointing out is correct, you can't use a Sachs disc or pressure plate with a LUK flywheel for instance. But, the kit I linked includes a flywheel which is considered preventative maintenance once you have the gearbox off.

Looking at the OPs numbers I appears that organic for a S2 is fine. But do you think sintered disc would be required for a CR190? Or do you feel that would still be within the organics range?

 

[adjat84th]

Is S2 = stage 2?
The organic disc will 400ft-lbs. Most I've seen for torque on these is 375ft-lbs with a 2260 turbo where that peak torque was coming on at 2500-2600rpm. Cylinder head does limit things on these, but 375tq is still very stout for a stock motor!

 

[Daemon64]

Is S2 = stage 2?
The organic disc will 400ft-lbs. Most I've seen for torque on these is 375ft-lbs with a 2260 turbo where that peak torque was coming on at 2500-2600rpm. Cylinder head does limit things on these, but 375tq is still very stout for a stock motor!

S2 is stage 2 correct. Which according to Malone is 167WHP & 298 WTQ
The CR190 Turbo I was referencing is stage 3 which says 190 WHP & 325 WTQ

So the reading above it looks like the organic would have no issues on Stage 2 --- but the holding torque is it crank or wheel? So would 325 WTQ be too much for it?

I assume regardless both versions will have dual mass flywheel issues above 300 wtq @ 1800 - 2200 rpm

 

[adjat84th]

Organic will be fine, you can ask DS if they used that on the MK7 GTD blog/build they have where they tested a 2260 and 2872vrk. It's listed on that blog post, but doesn't specify the disc used. Torque was nearly the same, but 2260 coming on much sooner.
I doubt any CRUA/CVCA will ever need the sintered disc, even when running GTD injectors that can support more fuel (power).

If going CR190, low-down torque will likely need reducing to keep DMF happy.
I think a GTD2060 turbo personally would be the best upgrade. Large enough to not kill DMF, but not so large that you're waiting for days to spool. The CR190 is a mild upgrade IMO.
Believe @Xtremefunky was getting pretty incredible boost down low with GTD2060 from Muchboost. @sardo_67 also has GTD2060 going on their car, but not up and running just yet. It's not plug & play though, so bear in mind there aren't really kits out there.

 

[milktree]

The 02Q 6spd is similar to the 02M that's been used by various VW models since I think the '04 R32..meaning it's nothing special.
I highly recommend the Sachs SRE kit from Darkisde. It'll come with a new dual mass flywheel, and the better Sachs slave cylinder.

How is the Sachs slave cylinder better? I have to replace just the slave cylinder in my '15 GSW because the original is sticking. I don't want to have to deal with that ever again (or at least I want the slave to last as long as the clutch)

 

[adjat84th]

IMO it is better because it does not have the additional o-ring connection along the stem that is where leaks can form. I believe the sole purpose of that connection is for manufacturing efficiency.
02M141671A is the part number for the solid-shaft slave cylinder.

 

[Cuzoe]

I have the CR190 waiting (for me) to install. Mild upgrade is good for me, and I am staying emissions intact. I do suspect a clutch will be needed at some point, thinking the mentioned darkside kit is probably where I'm headed.

 

[adjat84th]

I have the CR190 waiting (for me) to install. Mild upgrade is good for me, and I am staying emissions intact. I do suspect a clutch will be needed at some point, thinking the mentioned darkside kit is probably where I'm headed.

If you need it, you will not be disappointed in how it drives! Light pedal (though technically heavier than stock) and buttery smooth engagement.

 

[Cuzoe]

I don't plan to get in there until I confirm it's needed. Remains to be seen if installing the CR190 turns me into a more aggressive driver, haha.