Release date of new Jetta SportWagen TDI?

[dieselsRus]

As soon as you can sign up for one, I'm going to be on the waiting list, I emailed VOA when they would have a new body jetta wagon tdi last year! Finally it's here!

 

[Vectorer]

No word about what trannys will be offerred.

Let's hope that VWoA did not advocate the DSG as being a "suitable substitute" for the manual gearbox that many of us would want to buy. Not all North Americans have to deal with bumper-to-bumper freeway traffic everyday. More than a few of us like to row the stick. The DSG may be able to shift more efficiently than I can, but after driving one, my preference remains the manual...even if the cost difference did not exist. The DSG is $1000US more than the stick.

AND...if a stick is offered, give it a clutch robust enough to handle *all* of what what the engine is capable of producing... DON'T make that mistake, again.

We will see.

V

 

[vwjettadsl]

No word about what trannys will be offerred.

Let's hope that VWoA did not advocate the DSG as being a "suitable substitute" for the manual gearbox that many of us would want to buy. Not all North Americans have to deal with bumper-to-bumper freeway traffic everyday. More than a few of us like to row the stick. The DSG may be able to shift more efficiently than I can, but after driving one, my preference remains the manual...even if the cost difference did not exist. The DSG is $1000US more than the stick.

AND...if a stick is offered, give it a clutch robust enough to handle *all* of what what the engine is capable of producing... DON'T make that mistake, again.

We will see.

V

At the bottom of the article there is a link to the 2008 VW Jetta TDI Sedan. In that article they stated:

Volkswagen has announced its plans to return the Jetta TDI to the diesel dogpile in the spring of 2008. Powered by a new 2.0-liter four-cylinder making 140 hp and 236 lb-ft of torque, and either a six-speed manual or DSG automated manual transmission, the 2008 Jetta TDI will be cleared for sale in all fifty states.

 

[enatman]

The 2.5L five cylinder engine comes this fall

Early in 2008, the 2.0TDI arives.

does that mean this will also include the touareg 2.5?

 

[dieselsRus]

nobody here is interested in the blue motion diesel passat wagon and sedan coming out spring 08?

 

[TDIenthuzd]

What's the starting price on the jetta?
The one with the navigation looks sweet

 

[turborip]

08 jetta wagon sighting?

Yesterday I was leaving the airport in Chattanooga where we base our plane and saw a new jetta wagon in the security fence of the control tower.I was surprised to see one so soon so i turned around for a double take.I was sure that was a 08 jetta wagon until I read the posts today which indicates they have not
ben delivered yet.
I am going back there today for look number 3 with a camera,and if it is there I will post the photo.
I purchased a 03 jetta wagon last week,and it was difficult to find that model pre PD,But I am enjoying using B20



2003 jetta tdi wagon,venectomy

 

[wait4TDIPD]

nobody here is interested in the blue motion diesel passat wagon and sedan coming out spring 08?

I am sure a good number is also interested in the '08 BluMo Passat, although it very likely will hit $30k+ with a very few options easily.

It looks like I can finally turn my 96 B4 into an experiment and make it a grease car.....

Is there any info out there when the Passats hit the shore? -same time as the JettaWagon? The Passat Variants came always later than the sedans....



96 B4 PP520 RC euro codes and fogs CCV filter 114k mi....looks boring..but has guts..

 

[rotarykid]

I haven't decided if I like the body yet , I'll just have to wait & see .

I still want a Polo TDI , that car is more in my size range of what I want to drive .

 

[DickSilver]

VW has always seemed to feel that it is best to sell the high-end models of things in the USA. Like the ill-received Eurovan with the thirsty V6 automatic. I too wonder why they never offered that vehicle with the 2.5 litre TDI and a plain stick shift. Or the 1.9 TDI Touran.

The re-entry of the Golf-labeled Rabbit shows some recognition that there are lots of potential VW buyer out there who will buy a less-expensive good quality vehicle. Maybe now that 50-state diesels are coming, they will seek a broader market.

For me, retired and no kids at home, I still will only buy something with the carrying capacity of a station wagon. Just for Home Depot items and the like, where I can choose between stuffing thins in the back, carrying them on the roof rack, or hitching up a cargo trailer. I will never have use for just a sedan.

 

[10then34]

VW has always seemed to feel that it is best to sell the high-end models of things in the USA. Like the ill-received Eurovan with the thirsty V6 automatic.

What a retarded idea. In the old days, the van was driven by a 1.6l flat-four with 70 odd hp. It was not exactly a sports-car, but it would haul 8 construction workers and a 2ton trailer to the job-site (now, the version with the inline4 1.6l aspirated pre-chamber diesel was a different story, that one barely moved by its own volition and a strong headwind would slow you below the 55mph minimum highway speed).

I too wonder why they never offered that vehicle with the 2.5 litre TDI and a plain stick shift.

It wouldn't fit with the premium luxury image they are trying to sell in the US.

The re-entry of the Golf-labeled Rabbit shows some recognition that there are lots of potential VW buyer out there who will buy a less-expensive good quality vehicle.

VW just like most of the german manufacturers have lost their collective minds.

 

[TornadoRed]

Umm, the writer should have done a little more research, the Jetta Wagon isn't anything new.
The way they've sloped the back, it looks like it will have less cargo room than my '05 Wagon.

But comparing the space that is lost, notice that it is space that is rarely used. In exchange, the sloped back might improve the aerodynamics.

 

[TornadoRed]

It looks like I can finally turn my 96 B4 into an experiment and make it a grease car..... 96 B4 PP520 RC euro codes and fogs CCV filter 114k mi....looks boring..but has guts..

Don't do it, man! Don't change a thing.

 

[euromade]

VW has always seemed to feel that it is best to sell the high-end models of things in the USA. Like the ill-received Eurovan with the thirsty V6 automatic. I too wonder why they never offered that vehicle with the 2.5 litre TDI and a plain stick shift. Or the 1.9 TDI Touran.

The re-entry of the Golf-labeled Rabbit shows some recognition that there are lots of potential VW buyer out there who will buy a less-expensive good quality vehicle. Maybe now that 50-state diesels are coming, they will seek a broader market.

For me, retired and no kids at home, I still will only buy something with the carrying capacity of a station wagon. Just for Home Depot items and the like, where I can choose between stuffing thins in the back, carrying them on the roof rack, or hitching up a cargo trailer. I will never have use for just a sedan.

Mini vans have be positioned, from the marketing stand point, for the soccer moms. Do you think any of those moms would be able to manage the manual tranny, her cell phone, and a few kids in the back? I guess VW did a little research and probably did not find enought market share to sell a striped down version.

 

[jimnms]

But comparing the space that is lost, notice that it is space that is rarely used. In exchange, the sloped back might improve the aerodynamics.

Actually the first thing I noticed was that the space lost is space that I use quite often. Letting the back seats down isn't an option because I usually have one or two people sitting back there when I'm carrying the large item.

 

[rotarykid]

What a retarded idea. In the old days, the van was driven by a 1.6l flat-four with 70 odd hp. It was not exactly a sports-car, but it would haul 8 construction workers and a 2ton trailer to the job-site (now, the version with the inline4 1.6l aspirated pre-chamber diesel was a different story, that one barely moved by its own volition and a strong headwind would slow you below the 55mph minimum highway speed).

I drove , still do drive a 1.6 L ( 52hp/71.5 lb-ft @ sea level , 25 to 30 hp/40 to 50 lb-ft @ the wheels @ high altitude ) diesel car all over the southeast & the western US @ speeds up to above 80 mph .

They take a while to get to that speed but once there they will stay there all day long & return 40 to 45 mpgs doing it .

So I would have no problem with a 75 mpg Polo TDI with 50 to 60 hp/80 to 90 lb-ft . And I think VW would have no problem selling them & they would sell many of these here in the US & Canada .

 

[10then34]

I drove , still do drive a 1.6 L ( 52hp/71.5 lb-ft @ sea level , 25 to 30 hp/40 to 50 lb-ft @ the wheels @ high altitude ) diesel car all over the southeast & the western US @ speeds up to above 80 mph .

Certainly sufficient in a compact passenger vehicle like a Golf, in the van the non-turbo 1.6 was painful. The turbocharged version (pre TDI) was not a sportscar either, but you didn't have to dread a molehill.

 

[JustLuckey]

In regard to size for '05 Wagon vs. '08 Sportwagen:

2004 Jetta Wagon from Vehix.com
Cargo Volume to Seat 1: 51.9 cubic feet
Cargo Volume to Seat 2: 34 cubic feet

2008 Jetta SportWagen from the original article for this thread:
"Stretched 14 inches beyond the five-door Golf, the Variant adds nine more cubic feet of cargo space behind the rear seat for a total of 24 cubic feet. Fold the rear seats, and there’s a full 54 cubic feet of air just waiting..."

So it looks most cargo area in the '08 (with rear seats down). But not much from rear seat to hatch.

 

[characterzero]

AUDI not ugly

ugly. give me an A4 audi TDI please. rented one in Germany and loved it!

 

[jimlockey]

Sounds like the tdi will be the same size as my 05 Passat.

A little more room would please me.

Now, which auto trans?

 

[oEo]

The sport wagen... It sits like a bobble-head doll. Not that it has to be crashed to the ground, but come on... Give me a little less wheel well gap. The 'regular' jetta wagon looks better (IMHO)

 

[Smokerr]

Sounds like the tdi will be the same size as my 05 Passat.

A little more room would please me. Now, which auto trans?

The Passat should follow soon. As I understand it, in the new version they put the extra room in the back seats, not the front. Front seats ok I think to 6 ft. 2 or so. Back is fine (05) but a bit hard for longer folks to swing feet in.

Which engine, hmmm.

 

[DrSmile]

But comparing the space that is lost, notice that it is space that is rarely used.

People who don't use that space should own the sedan not the wagon. The rear cargo area of my wagon gets used a lot more than the rear seats <insert your own deprecating sex joke here>. Part of the reason for that is that the rear seats don't have a lot of leg room and my friends don't like to cram in back there.

 

[istewart]

Mini vans have be positioned, from the marketing stand point, for the soccer moms. Do you think any of those moms would be able to manage the manual tranny, her cell phone, and a few kids in the back? I guess VW did a little research and probably did not find enought market share to sell a striped down version.

Most of the minivans, following Chrysler's lead, are also bloated sedans rather than small vans. I dunno about you, but I see more Sprinters in commercial use than I do minivans from ANY manufacturer. Back in the '60s- early '80s, when the big three plus VW offered small vans with actual cargo and load carrying capacity, I'd imagine that situation was different. The T5, of course, is different... a continuation of VW's earlier philosophy, even if it is inferior to the rear-engine/RWD vans in many ways, but the Sharan is the same damn thing everybody else is selling.

I'm assuming that VW's still going through with the rebranded Chrysler minivan deal, but a wagon like this one is a much more well-thought-out idea for a people/cargo mover than a minivan, and will probably sell more at a lower price to boot.

 

[euromade]

Most of the minivans, following Chrysler's lead, are also bloated sedans rather than small vans. I dunno about you, but I see more Sprinters in commercial use than I do minivans from ANY manufacturer. Back in the '60s- early '80s, when the big three plus VW offered small vans with actual cargo and load carrying capacity, I'd imagine that situation was different. The T5, of course, is different... a continuation of VW's earlier philosophy, even if it is inferior to the rear-engine/RWD vans in many ways, but the Sharan is the same damn thing everybody else is selling.

I'm assuming that VW's still going through with the rebranded Chrysler minivan deal, but a wagon like this one is a much more well-thought-out idea for a people/cargo mover than a minivan, and will probably sell more at a lower price to boot.

Try fitting 3 baby seats and 2 adults in any of the new/old station wagons. Doesn't work!
Minivans have their purpose and I love them for long trips. They are spacious and handle well.
This new Jetta wagon reminds me of my new body Tahoe that actually has way less cargo room compared to my old boxy Tahoe. But again, car designers have their wild dreams that get on the drawing boards and we have to live with some of their mistakes for ever.

 

[jimlockey]

Seating room, Jetta Sportwagon

It's the back seat room I would like to have plus a little more comfort for long trips.

I like the tdi engine size (140 hp). I would like to keep mileage about the same as our Passat.

 

[BanzaiRider]

In regard to size for '05 Wagon vs. '08 Sportwagen:

2004 Jetta Wagon from Vehix.com
Cargo Volume to Seat 1: 51.9 cubic feet
Cargo Volume to Seat 2: 34 cubic feet

2008 Jetta SportWagen from the original article for this thread:
"Stretched 14 inches beyond the five-door Golf, the Variant adds nine more cubic feet of cargo space behind the rear seat for a total of 24 cubic feet. Fold the rear seats, and there’s a full 54 cubic feet of air just waiting..."

So it looks most cargo area in the '08 (with rear seats down). But not much from rear seat to hatch.

The big difference in volume behind the rear seats is probably coming mostly from the sloping cealing. In the current wagon one can load mountain bikes upright with the rear seats down, might not work anymore with this new configuration! The total volume is nice though! It seems to be available already from the German VW site so maybe some nice German will post measurements or pictures soon!

 

[RabbitGTI]

Is the 04/05 wagon a Mk4 or Mk5 tub?

 

[DrSmile]

There is no Mk5 wagon, at least not yet.

 

[jimlockey]

Mini vans vs Jettawagon

The mini vans in the US got too big. I had four.

The Jetta sportwagon looks like a nice size, but I don't want too large of a diesel engine. I would like to maintain mpg similar to my Passat.

It will be a hard choice between the Passat wagon and the sportwagon.