Release date of new Jetta SportWagen TDI?

[rootrider]

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[unsub1]

And what is everyone's take on the rear airbag option? Are there any downsides (child seats, etc.) or is it a no-brainer?

Here are two more JSW TDIs, on the ground in Raleigh, NC:


I'm not sure, but this may be the first time I've seen a "spec" JSW TDI with the rear air bags.

-darren

 

[TDIMANtobe]

And what is everyone's take on the rear airbag option? Are there any downsides (child seats, etc.) or is it a no-brainer?

I don't see any drawbacks, I tried to get a car that had them, but no luck. Increased safety basically.

 

[CountryBoy]

I wanted them but read that the car managed the 5 star side impact rating without them. Every little bit helps though. Didn't manage to snag them on my car.

 

[jvance]

And what is everyone's take on the rear airbag option? Are there any downsides (child seats, etc.) or is it a no-brainer?

There's some concern that a child not sitting properly in the rear passenger seat (essentially all children ) might be injured by the deploying airbag.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=436003

 

[pugman]

I wanted them but read that the car managed the 5 star side impact rating without them. Every little bit helps though. Didn't manage to snag them on my car.

Would your insurance be less if you had them?

 

[unsub1]

That was kind of my worry; my baby boy and my puppy dog. I keep her harnessed and tethered in the back seat but it's certainly not easy to control how she's oriented.

There's some concern that a child not sitting properly in the rear passenger seat (essentially all children ) might be injured by the deploying airbag.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=436003

 

[QSHIPWAGON]

Rear Air Bags, kids, seat protection

That was kind of my worry; my baby boy and my puppy dog. I keep her harnessed and tethered in the back seat but it's certainly not easy to control how she's oriented.

We decided to go with the side airbags even though I have a 4 month old and a 4 year old. I read a lot and decided that from age 0 to 3 the child is in a properly mounted seat that should insulate them from a SEAT SIDE airbag which deploys OUTWARDLY as in the JSW. From age 4 on the child is in a booster seat which replicates a larger human in terms of where the child is situated. I would NOT have gotten the airbags if they deployed from the door INWARD. It's a calculated risk, but I decided that the pros outweighed the cons. CRITICAL to all this with kids is that they are properly situated in their APPROVED seats.

In other news, I LOVE the "Sunshine Kids" Ultra Mat that protects the rear seats from the somewhat rough child safety seats. I am satisfied that they do not compromise the proper fitting of the child safety seat. They fit very nicely. Far less importantly, they would look good in either a grey interior like ours or a black interior. About $25 a piece from Amazon.com with free shipping.

 

[QSHIPWAGON]

My MPG....507... Stanadyne... School for the "Gifted"....met a fellow "lister"...

Completely unscientific first fill up....

35.9 MPG average on the compuVWter
35.55 on my HP 12C Financial Calculator

Included were several short trips to daycare, my wife's leadfoot on I-95 where you get killed doing less than 75MPH, some moderate 30-50MPH country trips, lots of Boston city traffic, and unseasonably cold weather with lots of rain.

Got diesel fuel on my sneakers from the last moron feeding the concrete with his nice spill ( a true welcome back to the oil burning world ).

Not particularly moved by the MPG experience, glad ULSD is $2.84 and not $4.75. My wife has not yet asked me why we didn't buy the brand new Ice Blue Saab 9-3 Wagon down the street for $24K now that GM is giving away cars. I am prepared with a response that involves world oil markets and other things that will put her to sleep before she can argue back.

Car was filled by the dealer, so next may be more or less acurate. In other news I picked up a quart of 507 spec to keep in the car at the dealer for $8.14. I was expecting it to be even more.

Now, I'm thinking about a Stanadyne regimen. Anyone BTDT?

Feeling stupid? I was last night. Couldn't find the release for the fuel door. Left the station. Checked manual when I got home. Looked where it was supposed to be. Nope. ***? I actually called my sales guy to find out it is a spring loaded push latch. You know that school for the gifted cartoon where the kid is pushing on the door that says "pull?" That was me. Damn good thing I can laugh at myself.

Two JSW's spotted at Red Hook Brewery last night. Mine and Matt's (TDi_JettaWagEn). Nice to meet you Matt and see your nice ride. Thanks for the beer.... and I covered your bill

What I'm protecting, and a farquing patient dog....

 

[unsub1]

Yeah, like I said, I can't necessarily properly situate my dog, so that kind of freaked me out.

We decided to go with the side airbags even though I have a 4 month old and a 4 year old. I read a lot and decided that from age 0 to 3 the child is in a properly mounted seat that should insulate them from a SEAT SIDE airbag which deploys OUTWARDLY as in the JSW. From age 4 on the child is in a booster seat which replicates a larger human in terms of where the child is situated. I would NOT have gotten the airbags if they deployed from the door INWARD. It's a calculated risk, but I decided that the pros outweighed the cons. CRITICAL to all this with kids is that they are properly situated in their APPROVED seats.

In other news, I LOVE the "Sunshine Kids" Ultra Mat that protects the rear seats from the somewhat rough child safety seats. I am satisfied that they do not compromise the proper fitting of the child safety seat. They fit very nicely. Far less importantly, they would look good in either a grey interior like ours or a black interior. About $25 a piece from Amazon.com with free shipping.

 

[QSHIPWAGON]

The Not So QSHIP

 

[schmugo]

Not necessarily

Would your insurance be less if you had them?

Using the online form to get a quote for insurance, they did not have the rear air bags as an option so there was no way to tell if there would be a difference. Called up a rep and gave them the VIN, and they said there was no information in the system yet, so they had me complete the online form by telling them year, make, model, etc...
So it may be awhile before insurance companies update their database, or maybe they won't care about them.
We wanted them for the perceived safety benefits.

 

[upsbroke]

steering wheel "too far away"

I know I read this a ways back about someone complaining the steering wheel was too far away. I only got my JSW afew days ago and I've only driven it a couple of times-but I haven't read anyone mentioning the tilting/telescoping steering wheel. If it's already been mentioned-my bad!

 

[Plonker]

Great News

Got my JSW this afternoon- it is a BEAUTIFUL car (black/black, 17" wheels, big roof, auto, mats, tinted)

I have to put in a plug for Matt Hansen at Strong VW in Salt Lake City, Utah. He was on top of things from the start, and never pushed anything on me. The sale was smoother than butter- might as well have been any other vehicle, not a limited-production run, impossible to find sportwagen TDI. I cannot praise him enough for the ease with which this all went down. All for MSRP and no ridiculous dealer fees.

I'll be taking some photos once I return home. Any requests for close ups or specifics? If not, I'll try to cover as much as possible.

Now to sleep before an exciting first road trip.

 

[jvance]

I know I read this a ways back about someone complaining the steering wheel was too far away. I only got my JSW afew days ago and I've only driven it a couple of times-but I haven't read anyone mentioning the tilting/telescoping steering wheel. If it's already been mentioned-my bad!

The steering wheel on mine was too far away until two weeks ago.

 

[rtgjetta]

Not sure if the manual points this out but the fuel door will not open if the vehicle is locked.......

FWIW,

Rob

Completely unscientific first fill up....

35.9 MPG average on the compuVWter
35.55 on my HP 12C Financial Calculator

Included were several short trips to daycare, my wife's leadfoot on I-95 where you get killed doing less than 75MPH, some moderate 30-50MPH country trips, lots of Boston city traffic, and unseasonably cold weather with lots of rain.

Got diesel fuel on my sneakers from the last moron feeding the concrete with his nice spill ( a true welcome back to the oil burning world ).

Not particularly moved by the MPG experience, glad ULSD is $2.84 and not $4.75. My wife has not yet asked me why we didn't buy the brand new Ice Blue Saab 9-3 Wagon down the street for $24K now that GM is giving away cars. I am prepared with a response that involves world oil markets and other things that will put her to sleep before she can argue back.

Car was filled by the dealer, so next may be more or less acurate. In other news I picked up a quart of 507 spec to keep in the car at the dealer for $8.14. I was expecting it to be even more.

Now, I'm thinking about a Stanadyne regimen. Anyone BTDT?

Feeling stupid? I was last night. Couldn't find the release for the fuel door. Left the station. Checked manual when I got home. Looked where it was supposed to be. Nope. ***? I actually called my sales guy to find out it is a spring loaded push latch. You know that school for the gifted cartoon where the kid is pushing on the door that says "pull?" That was me. Damn good thing I can laugh at myself.

Two JSW's spotted at Red Hook Brewery last night. Mine and Matt's (TDi_JettaWagEn). Nice to meet you Matt and see your nice ride. Thanks for the beer.... and I covered your bill

What I'm protecting, and a farquing patient dog....

 

[QSHIPWAGON]

Got my JSW this afternoon- it is a BEAUTIFUL car (black/black, 17" wheels, big roof, auto, mats, tinted)

I have to put in a plug for Matt Hansen at Strong VW in Salt Lake City, Utah. He was on top of things from the start, and never pushed anything on me. The sale was smoother than butter- might as well have been any other vehicle, not a limited-production run, impossible to find sportwagen TDI. I cannot praise him enough for the ease with which this all went down. All for MSRP and no ridiculous dealer fees.

I'll be taking some photos once I return home. Any requests for close ups or specifics? If not, I'll try to cover as much as possible.

Now to sleep before an exciting first road trip.

Eggsalad and congratulations!

 

[CountryBoy]

When driving my shiny new wagon the other day I looked back to make a lane change and noticed on the "C" pillar there is an "airbag" tag. According to everyone the car does not have rear airbags. Are these airbags standard and the rear airbag option simply another type of rear airbags? Was this a trim piece used on a non-rear airbag equipped car?

 

[scott_o]

When driving my shiny new wagon the other day I looked back to make a lane change and noticed on the "C" pillar there is an "airbag" tag. According to everyone the car does not have rear airbags. Are these airbags standard and the rear airbag option simply another type of rear airbags? Was this a trim piece used on a non-rear airbag equipped car?

I would guess that tag implies the presence of rear *curtain* airbags which are standard in the JSW. The airbags that are optional are the ones in the rear door.

 

[QSHIPWAGON]

I would guess that tag implies the presence of rear *curtain* airbags which are standard in the JSW. The airbags that are optional are the ones in the rear door.

Sort of, except they're not in the rear door, they're sometimes referred to as "Thorax" air bags and they are located longitudinally in the outside of the rear seats.... they inflate outwards towards the door instead of inwards.

 

[QSHIPWAGON]

Heat Complaints in '09 JSW's

Finally, a solution many of us can be happy with:

At last, safe, natural heat with no odor!

 

[megavites]

sensitive brakes

Has anyone noticed on there JSW how sensitive the brakes are?
Mine seem to grab at slow speeds so I have to be gentle with the intial application. I've checked the rear wheels to see if they get hot and they seem to be fine.

 

[kzoc]

gas door

Q-

Did you get a chance to watch the intro DVD that came with your car? The gas door was explained there, along with much dry German humor... My wife now has it quoted on her facebook page!

"That SD slot is not for coins!"

 

[QSHIPWAGON]

Q-

Did you get a chance to watch the intro DVD that came with your car? The gas door was explained there, along with much dry German humor... My wife now has it quoted on her facebook page!

"That SD slot is not for coins!"

Still working on the DVD which could have been done in 10 minutes without the juvenile German humor....of course, who am I to talk about juvenile humor?

 

[jvance]

With the temperature down in the 40s here now, I've been noticing that the TDI is fully warmed up in about 2 miles. Faster than either of my gassers. So much for slow to warm TDIs. It must be the dual EGR laying the thermal smack down on the coolant.

 

[schmugo]

Reflex Silver TDI available

So due to a confluence of issues (Work, Weather, and ordered car arriving) I am giving up on the Reflex Silver TDI I put a deposit on in October. If anyone is interested you can PM me, or call:
David Hicks @ 215-365-7500, it is sitting at the dealership now.
Reflex Silver, 6Spd Manual, Grey int, Pano roof mat kit
VIN: 3VWTL71K49M280722
Price: this is what I was quoted, realize i was buying it out of state so no taxes till I got home. MSRP + doc fees (100) + tire tax (5) + temp tag (20)
Hopefully if they sell quick, I might get my deposit back, so mention my name (Dwight), otherwise, I'll be filling out lots of paperwork.
They did not try any funny business, I just couldn't make it out in a timely fashion and the car we ordered is finally showing up.
So I'll be making the drive/flight to Tucson, to get the car my wife orderd, hopefully this works out and I don't get bent-over.

 

[jvance]

So I'll be making the drive/flight to Tucson, to get the car my wife ordered, hopefully this works out and I don't get bent-over.

Just get a signed purchase order beforehand and you should be fine.

Call the other dealer's billing department and tell them you want a refund on your deposit. Don't go through the salesman. Don't be afraid to dispute the charge through your credit card company if you have to.

 

[schmugo]

I'll try

Just get a signed purchase order beforehand and you should be fine.

Call the other dealer's billing department and tell them you want a refund on your deposit. Don't go through the salesman. Don't be afraid to dispute the charge through your credit card company if you have to.

I'll try to get the purchase order done.

Tried every avenue, billing/accounting referred me to salesman and would not talk to me or my wife. Tried the sales manager, same thing. I've talked to the salesman numerous times, blames it on owner policy (Sounds familiar to ABQ VW)
Have a complaint form from PA State Attorney General, letter to the owner, and disputed CC.

Oh, and I just want to thank everyone for their advice and counsel during this ridiculous episode and apologize for wasting anyone's time that read these posts.

DD

 

[TDi_JettaWagEn]

Funny - I always read your username as TDI Man Toby

Me too!

 

[TDi_JettaWagEn]

Early warnings...

We decided to go with the side airbags even though I have a 4 month old and a 4 year old. I read a lot and decided that from age 0 to 3 the child is in a properly mounted seat that should insulate them from a SEAT SIDE airbag which deploys OUTWARDLY as in the JSW. From age 4 on the child is in a booster seat which replicates a larger human in terms of where the child is situated. I would NOT have gotten the airbags if they deployed from the door INWARD. It's a calculated risk, but I decided that the pros outweighed the cons. CRITICAL to all this with kids is that they are properly situated in their APPROVED seats.

In other news, I LOVE the "Sunshine Kids" Ultra Mat that protects the rear seats from the somewhat rough child safety seats. I am satisfied that they do not compromise the proper fitting of the child safety seat. They fit very nicely. Far less importantly, they would look good in either a grey interior like ours or a black interior. About $25 a piece from Amazon.com with free shipping.

On the subject of airbags... I am going on week 3 of new JSW ownership, and am still having reverse buyer's remorse (buyer's glee?). However... Every time I start the car for about a week now, there has been an "airbag fault" warning. Also, the airbag light has been lit in the dash for the same time. The car was only 1.5 weeks old when this started! What could cause this sort of thing? I will take it in to have it looked at, but I want to know if I should take it back to the dealer I purchased it from for warrantee reasons, or if it matters? Thanks in advance for any help.