Just thinking, would there actually be that much of a spread for the everyday driver (like me)? This is what I would personally consider, I would knock 10% off of the manual millage as most owners driving the Passat in Manual would have done so to max out the MPG (hypermilers if I may) which I would not do. Next if the car will ever be “tuned” I would think at least 1 maybe 2 clutches in the lifetime of the car ($2500.00 or so?) so there goes much of the savings of the manual over the DSG.
You are saying the DGS would burn 30-40% more fuel with a DGS over a 6MT. This is total BS. Not sure where you got these numbers from but they make no sense.
Relax, I like the DSG too. I think you will lose the argument that it gets as good of mileage as a 6M, but may win the argument that it is more convenient .......whether it is 3,5,7,10% the 6M will improve mpg's, I was just making a WAG at 10% based on my experience with both transmissions.
On city and mixed that number of 30-40 % is more than easily achievable in a manual over any DSG. Around 30 to the low 30s is not uncommon in a DSG in these circumstances while over similar loop in exactly the same car you can exceed 40 mpgs in a manual version. That is compared to the average DSG driver that just puts the thing in D and goes. On the highway the difference is likely a little less but there is still a difference.
This still makes no sense. There is no more internal loss in a DGS and a manual because they are both basically manual transmissions. Are you are telling me a standard driver can achieve better mileage because they control the gear they are in? If this is your belief than the DGS driver, if inclined, can do the same thing.
Depends on driving style but the DSG's probably downshift more often than a manual driver would.
When I had the DSG Golf, I tried best I could to get top mpg's but I never could get what the 6M guys were reporting, close, but 5-10% less seemed about right. I guess some of it depends on driving style and conditions but overall, for whatever reason, the 6M cars tend to do a little better. One thing you can do with the 6M is coast out of gear which helps on certain stretches of road. The DSG is a great transmission when it is working properly, if it was as reliable and cost effective as a stick then I might have chosen it this go-round.
Finally someone answered the call instead of bashing the DSG. Let's keep sending in mpg data and comparing fuelie data.
And the type of commute will affect your mileage a lot! My commute from Western MD to Washington DC I can only average about 40mpg @ 75 due to the 3 "mountains" I have to cross. People in flatter areas, especially the mid-west get much better mileage.
One small correction, the '12 passat uses solenoid injectors. The Jetta's use piezo injectors.
You are correct sir, I stand corrected on the injector type. I also commute to VA from MD and due to much flatter terrain am getting the 44.9 to date. Waaaaaayyyyy better than my 3/4 ton Silverado 6.0 where I was filling up every other day!
No problem, and I totally understand the Silverado. I count on 15.5mpg with my F350 when I drive it to work - usually with a fill up every day as it uses just over 1/2 a tank for the round trip.
His driving habits, location, weather conditions, fuel supply, items stored in vehicle. Too many variables to know.
Got the data to prove this?
