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[Daemon64]

I’ve heard rumors of the reopening of the Palisades Nuke plant in Michigan also

For Palisades - That is no rumor. They've been sending funding, theyre in active process with the NRC and local govt to review the operations, the state of the plant, and to make any necessary upgrades to bring it fully in line with modern regulations and operations. They're aiming for for a Late 2025 restart of the plant. They've been hiring hundreds of staff back, and new staff from operators to nuclear engineers. So that one is real and Holtec is being somewhat aggressive on it.

The 3 Mile island one is interesting because its been shut down a bit longer, but Microsoft from my reading signed a 20 year power purchase agree from reactor 1 of 3 mile island for 100% of its power. Reactor one was shut down in 2019 and they're aiming for a return to operation of 2028.

 

[jmodge]

For Palisades - That is no rumor. They've been sending funding, theyre in active process with the NRC and local govt to review the operations, the state of the plant, and to make any necessary upgrades to bring it fully in line with modern regulations and operations. They're aiming for for a Late 2025 restart of the plant. They've been hiring hundreds of staff back, and new staff from operators to nuclear engineers. So that one is real and Holtec is being somewhat aggressive on it.

The 3 Mile island one is interesting because its been shut down a bit longer, but Microsoft from my reading signed a 20 year power purchase agree from reactor 1 of 3 mile island for 100% of its power. Reactor one was shut down in 2019 and they're aiming for a return to operation of 2028.

Not arguing your facts, just my opinion and always skeptical about planning and speculation. I’ve seen many such prophecies disappear. It wouldn’t my feelings if it did disappear due to politics or whatever. So I have to see it to believe it, just not crazy about nuclear waste accumulation or profit based decisions what’s best for society. Especially when it comes to water. Hoping not to see it, but I won’t fall apart if it happens. From what I know, the steam side of that plant requires a lot of updating. If they’re willing, they’ll find a way to squeeze the treasure chest.

 

[Daemon64]

Not arguing your facts, just my opinion and always skeptical about planning and speculation. I’ve seen many such prophecies disappear. It wouldn’t my feelings if it did disappear due to politics or whatever. So I have to see it to believe it, just not crazy about nuclear waste accumulation or profit based decisions what’s best for society. Especially when it comes to water. Hoping not to see it, but I won’t fall apart if it happens. From what I know, the steam side of that plant requires a lot of updating. If they’re willing, they’ll find a way to squeeze the treasure chest.

Naaa you're good for sure. I feel that about the political will of things being a wind that blows one way one day, and another another day.

Yeah I figure they already knew about the steam part, because holtec has a ton of experience looking at these things. Not necessarily operators though which is why i figured that they hired back so many ex-plant workers.

As far as the water statement I agree that classic large scale reactors like this have an inherent issue of potential water pollution depending, this is why I like the idea of SMR better because do not require flowing water. But thats neither here nor there.

On the waste part I was watching a documentary about a french company that recycles the nuclear waste into new fuel, significantly reducing how much waste makes its way back into the chain. IDK if there will ever be political will for that.

 

[gulfcoastguy]

Naaa you're good for sure. I feel that about the political will of things being a wind that blows one way one day, and another another day.

Yeah I figure they already knew about the steam part, because holtec has a ton of experience looking at these things. Not necessarily operators though which is why i figured that they hired back so many ex-plant workers.

As far as the water statement I agree that classic large scale reactors like this have an inherent issue of potential water pollution depending, this is why I like the idea of SMR better because do not require flowing water. But thats neither here nor there.

On the waste part I was watching a documentary about a french company that recycles the nuclear waste into new fuel, significantly reducing how much waste makes its way back into the chain. IDK if there will ever be political will for that.

Canada has been recycling their nuclear waste for years. Just search for Cando reactors on ewetube.

 

[jmodge]

That’s interesting, didn’t know that was done. I was by the Coal Generator plant in Port Sheldon a few weeks ago, still running with a huge pile of reserves. I talked to someone there a few years back that said it was a ten year project to phase it out. Beautiful parcel of land and a marina that once was reserved for employees. Skeleton crew there now

 

[El Dobro]

Naaa you're good for sure. I feel that about the political will of things being a wind that blows one way one day, and another another day.

Yeah I figure they already knew about the steam part, because holtec has a ton of experience looking at these things. Not necessarily operators though which is why i figured that they hired back so many ex-plant workers.

As far as the water statement I agree that classic large scale reactors like this have an inherent issue of potential water pollution depending, this is why I like the idea of SMR better because do not require flowing water. But thats neither here nor there.

On the waste part I was watching a documentary about a french company that recycles the nuclear waste into new fuel, significantly reducing how much waste makes its way back into the chain. IDK if there will ever be political will for that.

Probably this one.

 

[jmodge]

Naaa you're good for sure. I feel that about the political will of things being a wind that blows one way one day, and another another day.

Yeah I figure they already knew about the steam part, because holtec has a ton of experience looking at these things. Not necessarily operators though which is why i figured that they hired back so many ex-plant workers.

As far as the water statement I agree that classic large scale reactors like this have an inherent issue of potential water pollution depending, this is why I like the idea of SMR better because do not require flowing water. But thats neither here nor there.

On the waste part I was watching a documentary about a french company that recycles the nuclear waste into new fuel, significantly reducing how much waste makes its way back into the chain. IDK if there will ever be political will for that.

Weird coincidence, I turned the tube on last night and it was on the story channel. Nuclear waste storage and the testing of containers along with theory of operation and longevity. They designed warning signs that would supposedly last 1000 years.
My first thoughts were wondering if humanity lasted that long, what would the chances be the persons finding those signs would understand the written language on them.

 

[kjclow]

When I bought my "clean diesel" I got a tax benefit.

I got one on my 10 JSW but not on the 11 Golf.

 

[kjclow]

They're already working on recycling wind turbine blades. They learn as they go along. Recycling of wind turbine blades: Recent developments - ScienceDirect
The rest is political, that's why we vote. In my state they're already working on dropping EV incentives. I just got my registration renewal for the EUV yesterday and it was $327. Next year, it'll be $337. The government giveth and the government taketh.

The company I retired from was one of the main designers of the original blades. Once it was determined that they coatings kept them from being recycled, they worked on developing different coatings. Windmills being put up today should be fully recyclable.

 

[El Dobro]

The company I retired from was one of the main designers of the original blades. Once it was determined that they coatings kept them from being recycled, they worked on developing different coatings. Windmills being put up today should be fully recyclable.

These massive wind turbine blades are made out of wood (fastcompany.com)

 

[kjclow]

Not all of them. Some are fiberglass. Aluminum and steel were too fragile for that specific application. Couldn't get the strength, thickness, and weight parameters dialed in.

 

[El Dobro]

Not all of them. Some are fiberglass. Aluminum and steel were too fragile for that specific application. Couldn't get the strength, thickness, and weight parameters dialed in.

The company in the link is making them out of wood.

 

[El Dobro]

Pro-nuclear documentary by Oliver Stone.

 

[oilhammer]

Oh this is always fun:

Saltwater is making electric cars explode after Hurricane Helene (msn.com)

 

[El Dobro]

Oh this is always fun:

Saltwater is making electric cars explode after Hurricane Helene (msn.com)

Funny that most of the other article titles start with "saltwater may make". If it happens, seems to be Teslas.
Tesla Catches Fire in Garage Flooded by Hurricane Helene in Horrifying Video (msn.com)

 

[turbobrick240]

Pro-nuclear documentary by Oliver Stone.

Gotta be better than his pro-Putin documentary.

 

[El Dobro]

Gotta be better than his pro-Putin documentary.

He starts with all the anti-nuke protests, then does a 180 and shows how we need nukes.

 

[El Dobro]

 

[Lightflyer1]

Just came to Austin. Small nuclear reactors.

Aalo - Welcome to the dawn of a Second Atomic Age

Creating abundant and dependable clean energy to power humanity for generations.

www.aalo.com

 

[dieseldonato]

I wonder if going to be used exclusively by Microsoft or will it be shared with locals.

Supposedly 100% power produced will be used by a local Microsoft server farm. Being a local, were not super happy about that. When unit 1 shut down, our power rates basically tripled. They claimed it wasn't profitable to keep it going, even though they had just extended the operating permit. As far as I know, it's more a less a done deal at this point. Just need the clear the inspections/updates and whatever other red tape that needs done.

I’ve heard rumors of the reopening of the Palisades Nuke plant in Michigan also

Not a rumor, it's happening. If palisades and 3 mile island work out, I'd expect to see more shuttered plants to start coming back on line too.

 

[turbobrick240]

The volume of red tape at the NRC is pretty daunting. Mega-corporations like Microsoft probably have ways to cut through a lot of that, though.

 

[jmodge]

Supposedly 100% power produced will be used by a local Microsoft server farm. Being a local, were not super happy about that. When unit 1 shut down, our power rates basically tripled. They claimed it wasn't profitable to keep it going, even though they had just extended the operating permit. As far as I know, it's more a less a done deal at this point. Just need the clear the inspections/updates and whatever other red tape that needs done.

Not a rumor, it's happening. If palisades and 3 mile island work out, I'd expect to see more shuttered plants to start coming back on line too.

They’re phasing the coal plant out at Port Sheldon, that’ll be its replacement. Big old pile to burn through yet.