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Daemon64

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Basing the new Scout on the Amarok platform would be infinitely better. And if they got their head out of their ass and offered it with a diesel HERE, they'd really have something. But that's not going to happen.
Yep. I'm looking at the santa cruz, but a diesel Amarok, would be my first choice for sure if it were available
 

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Rich Rebuilds has a video where he took a new Rivian on a road trip to FL. He had a terrible time finding chargers. And one fill he showed cost him $.32/mile. That's probably more than it would cost to run a Powerstroke.
couple years late i know but my 7.3l E350 averages 17mpgs and when driven strictly on the highway i can get 20 even. so even at $4.00/gallon thats around $.23/mile or less. i know the newer ones arent as efficient however.
 
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Zak99b5

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I think the Rivian thing makes sense. VAG isn't getting anywhere fast with their EV endeavors, and Rivian is hemorrhaging money pretty bad. VAG has lots of money, and what better way to get a fast track to doing something you suck at than just buying a company that perhaps sucks less? It may get the whole Scout thing going again, too, although I still think that's going to go over as well as Harley-Davidson's electric motorcycles have. But we'll see. Marketing is a funny thing.
Same reason VW bought Audi--moving from RR to FF (not to mention water cooled), and they needed the experience building such a drivetrain. Of course Audi built longitudinal layouts, but they were in the ballpark.
 

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One of the things that kept me in Golfs and VWs for decades was the way the Golf 7s heater controls worked by feel just like they did in my Golf 6, 4, 2, and 1. With the Golf 8s menus to navigate just basic heater controls, VW has lost me...
technology is awesome and all but the whole touchscreen world we live in is quite annoying, i keep hoping its just a phase....
 

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Can you spare $55k or more please?

Luxury prices for those who can afford it as a second vehicle to drive mostly around town?

 

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The ID Buzz looks cool but not sure I want to spend that kind of money nor that I really need that large of second vehicle.
 

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While the Buzz sounds interesting it doesn’t really suit my needs. It would be nice for those rare large families or converted into a camper. I think that they could sell more ID7 sedans if made in North America. Lots of older boomers still out there.
 

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I don't do Facebook, so can't see that- but quite a few people have put range extender gensets in the back of Teslas. Saw an article recently about a guy who used a 3L turbodiesel. I'd be pretty surprised if he had an appropriately sized gen head for that engine. A 1.6L turbodiesel would be much better I think.
 

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You realize how silly this is, right?
As long as they're having fun with it, it's fine by me. They're just doing it for the clicks anyhow. Some people have enough money to do whatever silliness they please.

If you've ever seen any of the "influencer" videos by YouTuber "Whistlin' Diesel" you know there are plenty of dumb rednecks with more money than sense. And a large audience happy to gobble up their garbage content.
 
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If that's the reason, I'm OK with that. As long as no one is thinking this is a practical idea.
 

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I thought it would just post the YouTube link, but it didn’t. Someone put a diesel generator in a Tesla. Actually went through quite a bit of a process of fab and tech for, more or less, something to do. Makes me wonder who finances something like that.
Oh, ok. Sounds like something Rich Rebuilds would do. He stuck a V-8 in a Tesla.
 

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Toyota unveils its secret and surprises the world: New combustion engines, but zero emissions


"Toyota has presented a new generation of engines: Combustion could be saved this way

Many automobile industries are now focusing on research on the vehicles that run on the different kinds of fuel, and Toyota has been equally active in this area. The choice of hydrogen combustion engines is yet another step in this direction. These are the engines that replace traditional gasoline with hydrogen, addressing the drawbacks of cutting emissions and changing transport’s current tendency.

Hydrogen combustion engines that Toyota employs provide great performance while at the same time utilizing efficiency in engine features. As mentioned in the latest information in relation to every one of these engines, it is understood that the output can go up to 400 horsepower, which equals the capacities of many piston Atkinson cycle gasoline engines.

Also, the engines are designed to reach a thermal efficiency of up to 45%, which is equal to the best diesel engines. Therefore, hydrogen combustion engines are understandably a more compelling technological formula for Toyota in a vast number of vehicle applications, powered by the carmaker’s muscle and precision.
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Hydrogen sounds great until you crunch the numbers. People aren't going to like paying the equivalent of $10/gal for a fuel with non existent infrastructure.
 

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Hydrogen sounds great until you crunch the numbers. People aren't going to like paying the equivalent of $10/gal for a fuel with non existent infrastructure.
Sounds a lot like what’s going on with EV’s at the moment. Though there is some establishment of the product, it’s far from accepted as viable to the majority of people. Reality of it doesn’t appear to be coming anywhere close to meeting the mandates of the idea. For example, you’re obviously a strong proponent of the concept, but have you really felt strongly enough in your opinion to invest resources into the field or product? Maybe you have, but I’ve seen nothing that confirms it. Just makes me wonder why you push so hard to have your opinion heard, or maybe accepted on the subject.
 

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Online conversations don’t always reveal intent. It probably will never matter if I understand or not, but I wonder where the roots of your passion originate. I have a thought on it, but it would come across as critical, so I would rather hear the reality of it from you where it comes from. Why are you so intent on sharing your philosophy on the future of this subject?
 

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Oh, ok. Sounds like something Rich Rebuilds would do. He stuck a V-8 in a Tesla.
I didn't follow up on it or pay very close attention, but something on there appeared to be of some use in certain situations. I think he had, again I didn't pay serious attention, but ha appeared to install a bluetooth dash. The dash, along with self installed sensors, gave him all the data he deemed relative. Something people performing swaps may find interesting to their projects.
 

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Sounds a lot like what’s going on with EV’s at the moment. Though there is some establishment of the product, it’s far from accepted as viable to the majority of people. Reality of it doesn’t appear to be coming anywhere close to meeting the mandates of the idea. For example, you’re obviously a strong proponent of the concept, but have you really felt strongly enough in your opinion to invest resources into the field or product? Maybe you have, but I’ve seen nothing that confirms it. Just makes me wonder why you push so hard to have your opinion heard, or maybe accepted on the subject.
Not really. There has been a well established electric power grid for nearly a century. I bet most of your neighbors have access to electricity right at home. Not likely the case with hydrogen. Of course the power grid will need expansion and optimisations as the energy economy shifts away from fossil fuels. I've done my part with a solar installation that has already paid for itself and will generate profits for the next 20 years. I haven't bought an EV yet, but I have cut back on the miles I drive annually pretty significantly. I no longer see racking up 30k miles a year as some weird badge of honor.
 

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Not really. There has been a well established electric power grid for nearly a century. I bet most of your neighbors have access to electricity right at home. Not likely the case with hydrogen. Of course the power grid will need expansion and optimisations as the energy economy shifts away from fossil fuels. I've done my part with a solar installation that has already paid for itself and will generate profits for the next 20 years. I haven't bought an EV yet, but I have cut back on the miles I drive annually pretty significantly. I no longer see racking up 30k miles a year as some weird badge of honor.
I more or less expected an answer along these lines. Though I was hoping you would take my interest seriously, and that's ok. If you prefer your thoughts to be a moot point to me, so be it. I'll drop it.
 

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I agree that if Toyota wants to bring the "ICE Hydrogen Revolution" they better create a reliable fueling infrastructure first.
 

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I agree that if Toyota wants to bring the "ICE Hydrogen Revolution" they better create a reliable fueling infrastructure first.
Looks like Toyota just had a crash and burn with their fuel cell cars.
 
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