real world EVs review

[turbobrick240]

Yeah, the sticker price is too high. Especially without a $7500 rebate.

 

[oilhammer]

LMAO:

Tesla tells the EV industry: Fend for yourselves (msn.com)

 

[turbobrick240]

The Tesla executive in charge of charging didn't fire enough people to satisfy Elon, so he fired nearly the entire team in a fit of pique. That's just typical Elon. Tesla will hire new people. The Superchargers still make up 65% of fast charging plugs in the US. Life goes on.

 

[oilhammer]

Yep, filled my 24 year old Volkswagen with diesel today.... life goes on, one million KM by this time next week...

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

And I drove my 27 year old Passat today, which is going to hit 300K miles this weekend. 760 miles on the current fill, still has about 5 gallons left in the tank.

 

[jmodge]

Took my 355k plus ALH Jetta to Detroit for last weekend's party. First trip like that I've taken it on in 2 plus years. It still runs smooth and quiet

 

[Lightflyer1]

Took my 1935 Ford sedan with a flathead V8 out for a drive and it was beautiful. Still running like new. Unknown miles.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/14/why-the-future-is-uncertain-for-tesla-supercharging.html

 

[Dannyboy]

"I put my baby in a new Volvo because I want her "safe" "... yet she keeps crashing into things. I think the rest of the people sharing the road are less safe with her behind the wheel of this two-ton turbocharged Swedish juggernaut.

I 100% agree and seems to be a growing problem.

My work colleagues daughter passed her driving test in March and she has crashed 5 times since she got her license (yes, 5 times!). That's not even a two full months. And it's stupid things like going into a ditch when there's no ice or snow that gets me.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

I maintain my daughter (now age 38) has totaled every car she's owned. She totaled one of them twice. She's had the same Honda Civic now since 2018 and hasn't totaled it yet, so maybe the pattern has changed.

 

[oilhammer]

News article about the local unsold pile of Teslas near me:

Why are hundreds of Teslas parked outside a dying shopping mall? A local news station solved the mystery. (msn.com)

...overflow for the dealer (that doesn't exist), and they keep piling up! Says in there 90k cars off of what they thought. There must be piles of these unwanted things in other areas, too.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

Tons at the "dealer" near me. The store is in a small industrial park and it looks like they've taken over all the avalable parking.

 

[oilhammer]

Both the dealers here are so filled up with cars they are triple deep in the lots, you really cannot barely even drive on to the lots now they are so full. They should probably start asking the Toyota dealers if they can use their lots, that are still half or more empty.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

Toyota just doesn't seem to have a lot of cars at dealers these days. I stopped at our local dealer to look at a BRZ they had on the front of the lot, and walking around I saw that every car had ADM of $2-5K. I bet some people are paying that, too.

 

[El Dobro]

The Teslas are still moving through the staging area out here.

 

[turbobrick240]

Cox Automotive thinks the US is about to enter a new phase of EV adoption.

Cox Automotive 2024 Path to EV Adoption Study Suggests Electric Vehicle Consideration Will Surge in Second Half of Decade - Cox Automotive Inc.

ATLANTA, May 14, 2024 – A second, significant wave of shoppers ready to consider buying an electric vehicle (EV) is poised to begin entering the market in the second half of the decade, according to the latest findings from the 2024 Path to EV Adoption Study by Cox Automotive. The findings...

www.coxautoinc.com

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

Actually, that article says that a higher percentage of vehicle buyers will consider EVs in the second half of the 2020s. It implies that considering will translate to buying, but the study didn't quantify that.

It makes sense that people will consider EVs as they become more common and more models are available. Heck, I'd consider an EV if I were shopping for a new car right now. That doesn't mean I'd buy one.

 

[oilhammer]

Yeah, I consider them. I consider them too expensive and too far away from meeting my requirements with their current technology. And I don't think I'll live long enough to see any that will. Of course, the new vehicle market in general is to me pretty abysmal right now anyway, so I'm certainly not their target demographic anyway.

But if they work for you, that's great!

 

[oilhammer]

This is funny:

Hertz sold a bunch of Teslas and it turns out they're all kinds of trouble for their new owners (msn.com)

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

Not surprising. I've rented enough cars to know that buying a used rental is a gamble at best, regardless of fuel type.

 

[El Dobro]

Looks like the Chevy Equinox EVs are slowly trickling out to the dealers.

 

[gulfcoastguy]

Yes but the reviews that I have read say that they only aren’t terribly “fuel” efficient. Also no Apple CarPlay,

 

[El Dobro]

Yes but the reviews that I have read say that they only aren’t terribly “fuel” efficient. Also no Apple CarPlay,

What do they say the miles per kWh is?

 

[gulfcoastguy]

I believe that it was 2.9 miles per kWh.

edit: 3.2 miles per kWh. I might have had it confused with the Prologue.

 

[turbobrick240]

Sounds like it gets decent mp-goo.

 

[gulfcoastguy]

Depends, I get 3.2 to 3.6 depending in my ID4 . Teslas can do better though not as good as advertised. Any of the EV trucks get somewhere in the 2s.

 

[El Dobro]

Sounds like it gets decent mp-goo.

That's what happens when you have HAL doing the narrating.

 

[Abacus]

We just made a road trip from Arizona to Kentucky to South Carolina to North Carolina to Maine in 6 days driving 3,664 miles. The first stretch was 1,647 miles and we did it in 24 hours. The last leg was 1,117miles and we did it in 18 hours. The total driving time was about 59 hours and much of it we swapped drivers to keep moving and stay rested. We used my 2014 Kia Optima that I’ve had for years and is paid off. We took it to Maine because my wife just retired and it was cheaper to drive it across the country than rent a car for a few months while she stays at our Maine lakeside cabin. I’ll fly out in late October and drive it home, reversing the trip.

Along the way we saw many EV charging stations, most unused and vacant (for whatever reason) but some with a line of cars waiting to charge. At one location I noticed many EV’s charging and their drivers meeting one another and chatting. I thought it was pretty neat and reminiscent of old times when people were nicer. But there is no way I’d be interested in having to stop every 200-250 miles to recharge my car from an hour to a few hours at a time just to make the next leg of the journey. I consider it a waste of time to sit that long when traveling, which is one of the reasons we don’t sit down for meals on the trip.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

Nice to see others travel the way I do. In recent years I've made several trips to Madison WI from my home (1180 miles) in one shot. Best time was 16 hours during the peak of the pandemic. Only time I can recall when I drove IBW through a tank of fuel (750 miles) without shutting it off.

 

[tikal]

VW Announces Surprise Delay of 2025 ID.7 Sedan for North America

• Volkswagen put the brakes on the North American launch of the all-electric ID.7 sedan.
• Citing strong demand of the ID.7 Touring (the wagon version of this model) in Europe, the brand didn't say when the ID.7 would become available stateside.
• VW has not yet revealed the price or range of the ID.7.

2025 Volkswagen ID.7: VW's Electric Sedan Is Delayed

VW announces that the introduction of the all-electric 2025 Volkswagen ID.7 sedan is delayed for North America, with no new time frame available.

www.edmunds.com

An EV wagon would be nice but the probability is near zero in my view for North America