RainX Washer Fluid Affects Washer Level Sensor?

DieselFumes

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Has anyone experienced a problem with using the RainX washer fluid and the washer fluid low level light coming on even after filling the container?

I had the light go on after using RainX for a while even though the container was full. I let it run dry and refilled it with regular washer fluid (a generic brand) and the light went off. Well, yesterday I refilled it with RainX and this morning the low level light came on. Is there something in RainX that's messing up the sensor?
 

Wonko the Sane

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Re: RainX Washer Fluid Affects Washer Level Sensor

Hello, DieselFumes:

I have used RainX washer fluids continously for the last couple of years in my Jetta and have never had the low level light come on.

Wonko
 

AVE_ENG

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Re: RainX Washer Fluid Affects Washer Level Sensor

Maybe it's a loose connection to the sensor, or has debris caught in it.
 

DieselFumes

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Re: RainX Washer Fluid Affects Washer Level Sensor

I tried checking the connection for corrosion but I couldn't get it off. When the weather gets warmer I'll pull the washer fluid reservoir and check the sensor and clean reservoir.

Any suggestions on how to test the sensor? I figured I could use a volt-ohm meter and check the connection in and out of water.
 

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I've got rain-x in the reservior and I've noticed that I get a false alarm (low) when the temperatures drop to about -20 C. Later in the day, if things warm up, the alarm goes away.
 

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Re: RainX Washer Fluid Affects Washer Level Sensor

I have used it a couple of times and it didnt effect it at all.
 

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Re: RainX Washer Fluid Affects Washer Level Sensor

I've yet to get a warning light from the washer fluid.. Is there an obvious way to check if the sensor is working, I may check to see if it was disabled via VAG_com.. shouldn't be.. i didn't do it.
 

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Re: RainX Washer Fluid Affects Washer Level Sensor

Same here, I have used it to no adverse affect of the sensor. I do tend to use a lot of it...causing the light to come back on more often than not :)
 

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Re: RainX Washer Fluid Affects Washer Level Sensor

I've yet to get a warning light from the washer fluid.. Is there an obvious way to check if the sensor is working, I may check to see if it was disabled via VAG_com.. shouldn't be.. i didn't do it.
It shouldn't be disabled on a brand new car, but I've seen weird things come from the factory. Check the coding using the information found under the 17 Instruments - Recode for warning lamps section on the Ross-Tech site.
 

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Rain X washer Fluid

I got same problem on 2006 Jetta TDI "low washer fluid" came on two days ago. At that time outside temp around 30-35 deg, I was thinking just add more washer fluid and it will be ok (it was RAIN X which I used last 2 years on all my cars 2012 Passat TDI and Jetta) which I did and light went OFF ,next day ON again :mad: over next 2 days outside temp 50-60deg here in New Jersey- came across this post and WOULD NOT BELIEVE emptied Rain X pour Preston De-Icer and :D LIGHT WAS GONE!
P.S. I did pull everything a part fist checking on bad connection and etc.
 

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RainX New Improved Formula

I also just started getting false alarms on my washer fluid level. I also have been using RainX for years. I just checked the RainX jug and it says 'New and Improved Formula'. Not sure if that means anything.
I had the reservoir out. The sensor and the lower insides of the reservoir were coated with orange goo. I washed and scrubbed the sensor and what I could reach then put it all back together. Now instead of getting the washer level alarm right away after the engine is started if takes a few seconds to get the false alarm.

I did notice there are a lot of people on the web selling washer fluid level sensors. Again not sure it that means anything but it makes me wonder.

Chris

BTW What is is up with the prices they are asking $2.99 to $25.60?
 

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You guys know why rainx came out with their own washer fluid? Because their water repellent product needs to constantly be reapplied to remain effective, which means you need to keep buying it. Do yourselves a favor and aquapel your windshield and be good for half a year or more using normally priced washer fluid. And no more low fluid warning neither!
 

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They did recently change formula. The new stuff is a darker orange. That's not good engineer626 about the reservoir being coated with an orange residue. There should obviously be no residue. I will run mine low and take a look.

Snakeye, I don't consider $2.50-2.99 excessive. It's about $12 per year on washer fluid. I don't use RainX washer fluid so that my windshield repels water either, in fact, I had forgotten about that claim. I use it because whenever I put the cheapo stuff in, my wipers don't work great, ice/frost isn't cleared as fast, and the water they use maybe isn't distilled because wherever it dries it leaves streaks/water marks. Likewise in the summer time, their summer formulation does do well on bugs.

Also, I just got 4 years of use from my Bosch wipers using RainX washer fluid (replaced wipers because they were given to me for Christmas) so I figure something must be working well.

But I'll be watching this thread and probably will switch if there's any goo on the inside of my washer reservoir.
 

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My rain-x "original" application lasts about 12 months, w/o the Rain-x WWF. Of course, it lasts even longer when using the branded WWF. Having tried just about all the different flavors out there, Rain-X is my fave. My wiper inserts (I never replace the arms or blades), last much longer than when using other fluids. At $9 for a good rubber insert, I'm saving money and doing less labor per year by using a WWF that costs .25 to .75 cents more.

For the OP, yes, both our Golf and Jetta get the occasional sensor error for fluid level when it is below freezing. The brand of WWF doesn't seem to matter, however.
 

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You guys should try my job, being on the road all day. With my recently acquired wagon I was using up to a bottle of fluid a day. I bought probably 30 in total this winter, but my usage dropped considerably after i applied aquapel on my windshield. The wipers clear everything so much easier now, and hardly need to use them on the highway. I wouldn't pay whatever rainx costs, I'll stick to my cheap fluid on discount for $1.50 that does the job perfectly.

hskrdu I don't know how you got 12 months out of a single application of rainx. When I used it, I had to reapply it every few weeks, until I finally got fed up and bought Aquapel, which lasts much longer.

Wipers: bosch icons still fine after 4 years, but I don't think that has anything to do with the washer fluid that I use. It's just a quality product.
 

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Just found this thread. I have a 2012 golf TDI with 50k on it. I had been using the blue stuff. I just put in a bottle of rainx a few days ago, and my low washer fluid level came on within a few hours. It was intermittent at first, and now it is on full time.

I will switch back to the blue stuff and see if the problem goes away. Seeing as the level sensor is just a pair of contacts, I think it will.

Edit: There are threads all over the internet on Golf, Mercedes, and BMW forums about the new formulation of rainx messing with sensors.

for example: http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1645835
 
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No problems -- 5+ years using the RainX formulations. Like it a lot.
No problems here either. 12+ years using RainX brand washer fluids. Love it.
 

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You guys should try my job, being on the road all day. With my recently acquired wagon I was using up to a bottle of fluid a day. I bought probably 30 in total this winter, but my usage dropped considerably after i applied aquapel on my windshield. The wipers clear everything so much easier now, and hardly need to use them on the highway. I wouldn't pay whatever rainx costs, I'll stick to my cheap fluid on discount for $1.50 that does the job perfectly.
Obvioulsy I don't drive the mileage that you do, but I can't imagine going through a gallon a day. Are you using WWF for other purposes? I really just spray the window to clean off drying road salt spray from other vehicles. The rain-x has little value here, it's advantage is allowing rain and snow to slide right off the windshield, making visibility better and reducing (or eliminating) use of the wipers under those conditions. I'm that car at higher speeds driving w/o the wipers on. It does fine when used to "clean" the windshield, but any spray can accomplish this.

I only pay $1.99 to $2.49 for Rain-X WWF at Walmart. If you wouldn't pay "whatever" it costs, than it seems you are wedded to Aquapel and aren't interested in a comparison. That's fine. I don't have allegience, and will be happy to try Aquapel and compare. There's no other way to really know what works (and what doesn't) and what I prefer. Same is true for tires and oils and everything else that people get attached to.

hskrdu I don't know how you got 12 months out of a single application of rainx. When I used it, I had to reapply it every few weeks, until I finally got fed up and bought Aquapel, which lasts much longer.
I followed the directions?:) My bottle of Rain-X "original" is so old, it has a paper price tag on it! I use it once a year, once the temps have reached the warmth indicated on the box, and it gets shared by both our TDIs. It takes very little to wax the windshield, and I think I still have a quarter bottle remaining. I also have a bottle of Rain-X "anti-fog," but I found it doesn't have much impact on the interior. It works well for motorcycle faceshields, and crewman goggles/eyewear used in combat.

I previosuly used Rain-X original with other WWFs, but the wax only lasts half as long. Again, the blue stuff seems to eat away at it. Maybe Aquapel resists this since it's fluorinated, where as Rain-X is silicone based?

Wipers: bosch icons still fine after 4 years, but I don't think that has anything to do with the washer fluid that I use. It's just a quality product.
I agree on the Bosch Icons, but I'm still using the original VW wiper arm and blade, the OE with the wind-assist blade on the driver side. Why? Because I wanted to do my own comparison. I bought two passenger side Icons on sale, and each of our TDIs received them. Then, I put a new rubber insert on the driver side to have a level playing field. The Icons are nice, but a bit pricey for the performance compared to OE- and every day, with every wipe, I have a perfect side by side comparo going on.

For whatever reason, the Rain-X WWF allows the rubber inserts of both blades to last longer than any other WWF I've used. The cheap blue stuff seems to dry them out terribly quick, and they get stiff. I (used) to have to treat them with Aero303 to maintain the soft rubber. The cheap blue WWF (various brands) seems also to make the other rubber and plastic near the windshield dry out or fade, too. Maybe it has more alcohol in it? If I use blue WWF in a pinch, I find I'm out treating all the rubber and plastic with Aero303 after a few weeks.

I'm looking forward to the Aquapel comparison. It's fun to see how well things work, and how they compare amongst others. Even in the same line of products, some seem to work well, and others less so. I'm not a fan for Rain-X wiper blades, waxes, or other sprays, although I guess now they are all part of the Shell group, which makes many auto products (including Rotella T6, etc).
 

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This is my first year with Rain-X window cleaner and washer fluid. So far no low fluid warning light and my wipers no longer have a jerky movement. I thought the linkage was to blame.
 

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One thing I've experienced with the RainX washer fluid stuff is that you cannot mix it with the cheap blue stuff. If you mix the two, you end up with an oily mess on the windshield and it won't clean very well. When using RainX washer fluid for the first time, be sure to run the cheap blue stuff outa there first.

As long as I don't mix RainX with the cheap blue stuff I've never had a problem with RainX washer fluid.

Good luck.
 

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As I posted 02-25-14, I had used Rain-Z for years no problem then a couple weeks ago the WWF low level indicator came on. I went to refill reservoir and it was still full. In my travels, I guess the temps ranged from -15 F to +40 F; temp did not seem affect low level light but I was not really keeping track. Yesterday I cleaned reservoir and sensor tips, still got false WWF low level indicator. I saw post by VW2011, so today pumped out Rain-X and put in blue stuff by Peak.
NO MORE LIGHT!
I am inclined to suspect the Rain-X improved formula.
 

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I have had this issue of late. There is a new formula out of RainX and my parts store carries it. Didn't think much of it at the time other than it was darker than previous months.

Temps do not affect the sensor. This past weekend it was in the mid 50's and still the light came on. Today was mid teens and the light is still lit. I have been running RainX for years with no issues until I put in the darker formula.

I bought a new sensor for $26 from ECStuning and will be installing next week as well as changing brands of WWF
 

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I bought a new sensor for $26 from ECStuning and will be installing next week as well as changing brands of WWF
If it really bothers you that much (or anyone else finding this thread), you can always turn the low fluid alarm off via VCDS- there's a few posts about it over the last few years (which is why I didn't connect the alarm to a new RX formula). I pop the hood once a week, so I know where the fluid level is at; No alarm needed.
 

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Hmm. I've been using RainX in all my VWs, not one issue.

I do occasionally get a "low fluid" warning on my TDI. This only happens when it goes below -20C.
 

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If it messes up the sensor I wouldn't be surprised. Rain-x is addictive like crack to a car. If you quit using it your windshield stays streaky. I bought Bosch blades and rain-x at the same time to give the car some tlc. As soon as the rain-x was gone I had to wait like 1km for the windshield to dry before I could see thru it. 3 jugs of fluid and cleaning the windshield every fill-up and it still streaks worse than the old blades.
 

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Don't forget to clean your wipers too. All that road grime sticks to them like crazy.

I've been using the same set of Bosch Icons for 3 years now. No streaks. I keep a rag in the trunk and wipe them off every now and again with some silicon spray.
 
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