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IndigoBlueWagon

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It's a very conservative dyno. The A3 will effortlessly run up to 100 MPH and beyond in 5th. It feels faster than the numbers indicate.

The numbers don't really matter, it's the trends I watch.
 

SBAtdijetta

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'10 Jetta Cup 6spd, '02 Jetta Auto
06 Jetta 5spd BRM
Mods: RC1+, No muffler, No resonator, CCV vent to Atm.



Next Set up:

06 Jetta 5spd BRM

Mods: S/t 1956 sv turbo (now gone), Kerma/Aligator tune (first tune version, revised shortly after dyno), Stock injectors, stock exhaust with Cat, but No muffler, No resonator, CCV vent to Atm.

 

SBAtdijetta

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TdiRacing said:
SBA

That Dyno does not look right at all. That dip is awful. You figure out what is causing that?
Yea it was a kind of bad on the street, but way worse (terrible) under more load on the dyno. I really just posted it up to show what you can do on a BRM with stock injectors. Just replace that dip.... with a straight line and its not a bad graph. I never did get to dyno that setup after getting the revised tune in. So that one is the only one I have.

I set up the Boostvalve to fix that issue right away, but Yes it was fixed with a series of tunes and logs shortly after that, so yes it was the tune, but the actuator could have been set up a bit better from the shop. (but that is besides the point).

With the S/t 1952 turbo I have now and a good tune, I make about the same power (but dyno only) and zero smoke ever. I have never dynoed this setup and do not plan to, as I will replace this turbo.
mojogoes said:
The turbo!! ^^^
Im sure it contributed to the issue, but how much I will never know.
 

vwmikel

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If that last dyno is accurate then it must be the absolute limit of the BRM injectors. The stock file requests over 40 degrees of injection duration! :confused:
 

SBAtdijetta

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vwmikel said:
If that last dyno is accurate then it must be the absolute limit of the BRM injectors. The stock file requests over 40 degrees of injection duration! :confused:
We all ran on that dyno at a GTG, so we know that it had a baseline that is quite accurate, that is why I went back there to dyno again.

I could still even get some smoke with that tune at WOT. That was with the stock cat on it.
 

vwmikel

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SBAtdijetta said:
We all ran on that dyno at a GTG, so we know that it had a baseline that is quite accurate, that is why I went back there to dyno again.

I could still even get some smoke with that tune at WOT. That was with the stock cat on it.
That's the thing, when you extend the injection interval too long it will just start smoking but not making anymore power (it also drives up EGTs).
 

mojogoes

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Correct ^^^ but if you throw in some larger injectors you could cut down on the injection period/length and make more power in half the injection period depending on how big you go................ok maybe not half the time but oe or slightly less you get the idea.
 

creep

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Here's mine... 110hp with a re-map and sports filter. Now around 140hp.
 

jsrmonster

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vwmikel said:
If that last dyno is accurate then it must be the absolute limit of the BRM injectors. The stock file requests over 40 degrees of injection duration! :confused:
Are you kidding, it's obvious it popped a boost hose - hehe.

It could also be a clogged fuel filter, bad lift pump, or bad fuel too, but I really doubt it. I would bet a steak dinner somebody forgot some mapping changes in the tune ;-0

PD100 injectors are not a limitation. Simply look at your vaglog data for a wot run (1, 8, & 11). Compare your tuned values to oem. A huge torque/smoke map with give big delta pedal, but quickly settles back to oem request with bad mapping ie. a missed drivers request map or oem 02 sensor calibration ;-)

Jeff
 

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It would feel like oem falling on it's face at higher rpms, kind of like the graph shows.

This is the problem with tuning boxes on edc16 cars. The O2 sensor needs to be considered too! If not the car will detune itself over time to satisify the oem 02 allowance (with correction factors).

I've finally found a great Tuning Box solution for the edc16's (that copes with the 02 sensor compensation), while searching for the best 09 edc17 CR tuning boxes! I will be dynoing these TB's on my cars and will post results. The coolest thing is that I am able to custom tune these boxes myself so they can be made to fit hardware installed in your PD. ie. 3bar map, big maf, and injectors (for edc16).

Jeff
 
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vwmikel

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jsrmonster said:
Are you kidding, it's obvious it popped a boost hose - hehe.

It could also be a clogged fuel filter, bad lift pump, or bad fuel too, but I really doubt it. I would bet a steak dinner somebody forgot some mapping changes in the tune ;-0

PD100 injectors are not a limitation. Simply look at your vaglog data for a wot run (1, 8, & 11). Compare your tuned values to oem. A huge torque/smoke map with give big delta pedal, but quickly settles back to oem request with bad mapping ie. a missed drivers request map or oem 02 sensor calibration ;-)

Jeff
It's nothing like that. I did still increase injection duration slightly but if you go and add 5 degrees to it or something then the James bond smoke starts pouring out the back. (I didn't do this guys tuning if you got that impression). There is also a bit to just shut off lambda adaptation altogether.
 

SBAtdijetta

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vwmikel said:
That's the thing, when you extend the injection interval too long it will just start smoking but not making anymore power (it also drives up EGTs).
Right, and it may have been too long, thus the smoke and high EGTs on that tune.

jsrmonster said:
Are you kidding, it's obvious it popped a boost hose - hehe.

It could also be a clogged fuel filter, bad lift pump, or bad fuel too, but I really doubt it. I would bet a steak dinner somebody forgot some mapping changes in the tune ;-0

PD100 injectors are not a limitation. Simply look at your vaglog data for a wot run (1, 8, & 11). Compare your tuned values to oem. A huge torque/smoke map with give big delta pedal, but quickly settles back to oem request with bad mapping ie. a missed drivers request map or oem 02 sensor calibration ;-)

Jeff
No, nope, and no. But yes on the mapping of course/obviously... Swapping the tune, fixed the issue.
mojogoes said:
I'll go with the "oem 02 sensor calibration"
Well it may have been this... it was all in the tune as you say.
 
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delvi__acevedo

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dyno yesterday at DSG

I put the car on the rollers yesterday at DSG is a 2001 jetta with BEW engine, big a$$ R32 brakes and wheels and RC4

my mods are on my signature:

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Sootman

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Here's mine for the Mark 5 Jetta. Small dip apparently is the O2 sensor. Jeff has a fix but there's no rush.




I'm happy with the numbers but more so with how the car feels. BTW there is NO smoke at all with this car.
 
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delvi__acevedo

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Sootman said:
Soon to start a 12-step program for myself and others known as "Modaholics"! There may not be a cure, but there's hope
steve the fist step is to accept the problem:D
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Sootman

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delvi__acevedo said:
steve the fist step is to accept the problem:D
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Delvi,
Thanks, I'm thinking of going to a monastery and ponder the problem. True acceptance will take some time.:D I still want a ride in that beast of yours! I can't believe I past it up last weekend. Not only does it look good but great numbers too.

Steve
 

boertie

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Chipped last week by Turbo Johan
Mods:
GT 1749VB
Race 520 nozzles
Pd 150 Intake manifold
PD150/R32 Cold air intake, airbox, LMM and TIP
Home made SS turbo back exhaust 60.3mm . Home made high flow muffler.

Results: 187.5 hp and a nice 452 Nm/ 333 lb/ft

 

KROUT

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boertie said:
Golf IV AHF 110
Chipped last week by Turbo Johan
Mods:
GT 1749VB
Race 520 nozzles
Pd 150 Intake manifold
PD150/R32 Cold air intake, airbox, LMM and TIP
Home made SS turbo back exhaust 60.3mm . Home made high flow muffler.

Results: 187.5 hp and a nice 452 Nm/ 333 lb/ft

Is that at the crank? If not how high are your egt's? Nice numbers for a vnt17.
 

mikeyF

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144/245 on a Mustang Dyno


vnt 17/22
sprint 502s
RC3+
OMI
2.5" DP + Straight Pipe Exhaust
snowscreen removed
SB Stage 3 clutch



4th gear pull, what's up with the curvy line?
 
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boertie

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KROUT said:
Is that at the crank? If not how high are your egt's? Nice numbers for a vnt17.
187.5 hp @crank.
I don't know egt. I know there are more with this kind of setup and as far i know no problem.
 

Farfromovin

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mikeyF said:
144/245 on a Mustang Dyno
4th gear pull, what's up with the curvy line?
I think the curve looks pretty decent! Now you just need to up your air mods a bit and an RC5 upgrade!!!
 

mikeyF

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cool :) wasn't sure about the curve, just because the 3rd gear curve was soooo smooth. I watched the boost spike to 23lbs for a little bit, then settle down to 19lbs... and this is on a stock fuel pump with no lift pump either. I think it's tough to compare #s when people run on different dynos at different times...

RC4 is in the works this weekend I hope :)
 

Grede

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Euro Golf4 1.9TDI PD100.
small FMIC and a GT1749VB unit.
Still PD100 injectores.



180bhp and 400nm
 

Farfromovin

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mikeyF said:
I think it's tough to compare #s when people run on different dynos at different times...
RC4 is in the works this weekend I hope :)
Exactly! It is tough to compare your results to others from different dynos in different atmospheric conditions, etc... The best thing to do is go to the same one over and over while upgrading to see changes that matter to you. Numbers are almost meaningless IMO. They're nice if you get the ones you want, but they don't offer a fair comparison to others setups.
 
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