Please post if you get a new Passat TDI 6 sp

50harleyrider

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I'd sure like to catch some feedback before I order one.
 

oxford_guy

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No dealerships got one to demo and I don't know if any were allocated for the first September delivery. If you want a manual TDI you're probably looking at the October wave at best.
 

50harleyrider

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I did drive a DSG Passat TDI. Was impressed by the power but disappointed when the dealer told me I couldn't get dual power leather seats,fogs on the 6 speed car. Typical VW. At least the driver's leatherette is power. The price for a basic white 6 speed is $26,765 + whatever the dealer can talk you into for his floormats,etc.
 

k.mojo

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Mine is "released for production" which means almost nothing, I'm sure. Last word is "probably" October.
 

DickSilver

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I test drove a 2012 TDI SEL two weeks ago.
Fit & finish - excellent.
Handling - firm & competent.
Power - Nice, gutsy TDI acceleration.
Seating - nice, firm enough, but sized for large Americans.
Rear seat legroom - Lots, 8 inches from my knees, when driver's seat is set for me (I am 5'8")
Overall impression - It is going to sell well to a lot of American drivers, but not to me. I want a smaller car. The new Passat is 7 inches longer than my present B5.5V TDI. I want a Polo, after having driven a rented one for a month in South Africa.

A week after driving the new Passat, I drove a Golf 4 door TDI. That car wanted to be DRIVEN and I was at home - I loved it in comparison to the Passat, where I felt like a welcome guest. I still want to wait for the Polo!!
 
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breind01

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Order processed 8/18. Been told truck depot delivery will be 10/14
Ordered TDI SEL 9/6 & told by dealer that Allotments were coming out 9/8. Dealer had an allotment of two of which I will receive mine. Ordered Opera Red, haven't seen anything but a color chip. Told I should have delivery by Mid October.
 

k.mojo

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Talked to dealer this week and they told me car is in production and should be on their lot October 12th - 14th (Big Red- may be on the same truck with yours!) If true, that is an 8 week order to delivery time which isn't bad for a special order car.
 
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oxford_guy

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Ordered TDI SEL 9/6 & told by dealer that Allotments were coming out 9/8. Dealer had an allotment of two of which I will receive mine. Ordered Opera Red, haven't seen anything but a color chip. Told I should have delivery by Mid October.
Opera red looks pretty dark in real life, but I think it makes the car look classy. It reminds me a bit of the purple that was used for the Phaeton, although I haven't seen that purple in person -- just in pics.

Another nice thing about the new red is that it's not like all the other reds around. It make the car more unique.
 

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I test drove a 2012 TDI SEL two weeks ago.
Fit & finish - excellent.
Handling - firm & competent.
Power - Nice, gutsy TDI acceleration.
Seating - nice, firm enough, but sized for large Americans.
Rear seat legroom - Lots, 8 inches from my knees, when driver's seat is set for me (I am 5'8")
Overall impression - It is going to sell well to a lot of American drivers, but not to me. I want a smaller car. The new Passat is 7 inches longer than my present B5.5V TDI. I want a Polo, after having driven a rented one for a month in South Africa.

A week after driving the new Passat, I drove a Golf 4 door TDI. That car wanted to be DRIVEN and I was at home - I loved it in comparison to the Passat, where I felt like a welcome guest. I still want to wait for the Polo!!
You are comparing apples to oranges when you compare the Passat to the Golf. Two different cars with different missions and customer profiles. The Golf is great until you need to haul around clients in the back seat. Been there, done that and it is not pretty.
 

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Opera red looks pretty dark in real life, but I think it makes the car look classy.
Another nice thing about the new red is that it's not like all the other reds around. It make the car more unique.
Just saw one in real life (SEL Premium V6) and agree it's much much darker than in the brochure (picture, not swatch). Even in sunlight it resembled the color of dried blood. Classy is a good description, if you like red.
On a side note, that model has very low profile paddle shifters behind the steering wheel buttons, which I though was a smart placement.
 
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CNGracing

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So no one has seen or driven or gotten the 6 speed manual TDI. I spoke to my dealer and should get it within a week!!! It's like a needle in a haystack....no other dealers are expecting one anytime soon.
 

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They aren't marketing this car to TDI crowds, the TDI Passat isn't their cash cow, the entry level 2.5L mills are where they are pusing to make money.
 

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Just purchased a 2012 Passat Highline TDI this week (Canadian Model). My initial experience has been I absolutely love the car and can't wait to drive it on a long trip. The leather sport seats are perfect, tons of room and the quality of interior materials is well above the competition at this price.

Mileage, so far I've averaged 6.1 L/100 I can easily get 4.2 L/100 on the highway steady at 100km/hr. The best speed seems to be 70-80 km/hr in 6th gear where it dips into the low 3's. Realistically I expect an overall average of 5.5 L/100 one I calm down a bit with the throttle and start driving properly.

Handling is excellent with the 18's and sport package, I would say it's worth the money but it does have a bit harder ride than the 2.5 I test drove as the 17's felt more "pliable".

On the Highway it is very quiet the engine hardly turns at 110km/hr. Engine noise at start up and idle is more than I expected but as it warms up it gets better. I also think it will get better after the break in period. My wife immediately complained about the idle noise she hates any noise.

All I know is I'm glad I decided on the TDI Passat vs the GLI Jetta overall cost is the same over 4 years with the fuel savings and although the GLI was more fun to drive it was a bit small for us. We will likely take the Passat on a long road trip but I doubt we would take the GLI if we had purchased it.

The only thing I don't like about the car is the Navigation system operation in Canada where you must enter Canada as the State and there is no option for province or postal codes. It's a bit offending really and how hard could this be to fix? I'm hoping a firmware update will be pending.
 

ilovemytdi

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6 speed manual on the way

So no one has seen or driven or gotten the 6 speed manual TDI. I spoke to my dealer and should get it within a week!!! It's like a needle in a haystack....no other dealers are expecting one anytime soon.
Hey everyone....just sealed the deal on a six speed manual today. Dealer is trading for it with a dealer about 5 hours away. They are suppose to have it in my hands by Tues. Or Wed. Will let everyone when I get it. Too bad VW limited the packages on the manual, they could have hook me for a few more thousand with some additional options. I would rather do without a few options than to take a chance on the DSG tranny. Looking to keep this car for 300k miles or more.
 

CNGracing

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Hey everyone....just sealed the deal on a six speed manual today. Dealer is trading for it with a dealer about 5 hours away. They are suppose to have it in my hands by Tues. Or Wed. Will let everyone when I get it. Too bad VW limited the packages on the manual, they could have hook me for a few more thousand with some additional options. I would rather do without a few options than to take a chance on the DSG tranny. Looking to keep this car for 300k miles or more.
What color? I ordered the night blue/black interior. The gonna change wheels and do a ceramic tint all around. Let's see who gets it first. Ordered mine 7/23, I'm trying to be patient.
 

Kchorro

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I just order my first TDI on Wednesday and it will be delivery next week.. Hopefully next Wednesday. It was already produced and it was allocated to my dealer of choice. Already have vin number...I was told that it will be on the trailer on Monday from TN to TX.
It's a 2012 TDI SEL Premium on Tungsten Silver Metallic with titan Black leather interior. 18" wheels, rear lid spoiler...
So excite !!
 

loobster

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Back on topic; I ordered a 6-speed TDI (SE) black on beige. I'd bet dollars to donuts that no on one will get an SE 6-speed on Wednesday Oct 5. I predict that any dealer promising this will have a lame excuse come delivery day. I'll bet they blame the other dealer.

Aug 1: My dealer gave no illusion that it would be a short wait. Back in August they said: "our rep says 6-speed models did NOT hit production yet, but if we order the car now, you SHOULD have it by November". $1000 down, $300 over invoice. They were pretty firm and acknowledged they usually sell production VW under invoice, but putting it on the books, and knowing it might be several months meant it somehow affected their access/allotment for other cars. This might be total BS, but i wanted my place in line and another dealer wanted $1000 over MSRP! A third would not provide price, but would gladly take my deposit. Keep in mind this all took place July 31-Aug1.

Sept 19:
Computer status showed my order was in factory order bank status, which supposedly means they have pulled the order for assembly so they're making progress on it. Dealer said likely 2 more months, which puts expected deliver ~ November 19th. They said the VIN was literally the last thing they get, usually given just before transport.

I had not intended to buy another VW, but I was drawn to the Passat for its 43MPG. My 2000 TDI golf had less then stellar reliability. I'll never forget it suddenly stalling 15 miles from Logan airport with Odometer=16K miles. I had lots of problems with that car. I kept it three more years and sold it with only 84K miles. Fun to drive, but the least reliable car i ever owned.

I test drove the DSG, and really liked the ride. I'm currently in a '04 Prius with 175K miles. I drive 92 miles/day, 70% highway. The DSG was sooo much better than my prius. The prius might be the most practical car on the planet (51MPG summer/ 47 winter), but it's really, really dull. Dull cheap plastic interior, and dull to drive. But Reliable. As mentioned, I had previously owned a 2000 golf TDI 5-speed, and i immediately longed for a manual again. After test driving the Passat SEL DSG, I tried a 2011 TDI Golf, using the same TDI manual shift gearing spec'd for the new SE passat. After stalling it on the first incline exiting the dealer, I found my sea legs. I drove it the exact same route noting the golf had much tighter suspension, and I felt much more of the roads imperfections. I suppose its a preference thing, but i really liked the softer Passat ride, Fewer rattles on long journeys. IMO, the passat was not loud as others have reported, but i drove it only over asphalt, no concrete. Highway passing with either the Passat DSG or Golf TDI was fun. I detected no stress from the engine. I came away convinced the Passat 6 speed manual was the way to go. I plan to buy an after market GPS (Garmin), and I am toying with an aftermarket Sun roof. I also have a list of VCDS tweaks i'm planning. It's a bummer they so severely limit the trim levels with the manual transmission. But considering only 6% of Americans drive manuals, I can see their logic. My logic is that the passat will use a tried and true 2.0L TDI engine, and assembled in a new state of the art billion dollar factory. I'm giving them one more try.

Bottom line: I expect delivery ~Nov 18, but will happily take it earlier.
 
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oxford_guy

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The Prius wasn't even an option for my friend, who is 6' 3". One of the new ones is supposed to add headroom, but at the cost of FE.

As for the sunroof, I don't think you're missing anything. Another thing to think about is that the Passat did extremely well in a roof crunch test. Of course, the model didn't have a sunroof. So, you're likely to be driving a safer car. It may also be a touch quieter without glass being in the roof.
 

k.mojo

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You're right on about the Prius, Loobster. It is downright coma inducing to drive, but kinda nice how it never breaks :). The new B7 6 speed will be my wife's daily driver and I get to take over the 'yota.

BTW - Still hearing 10/12 - 10/15 as delivery date for the new oil burner.
 

rotarykid

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Just purchased a 2012 Passat Highline TDI this week (Canadian Model). My initial experience has been I absolutely love the car and can't wait to drive it on a long trip. The leather sport seats are perfect, tons of room and the quality of interior materials is well above the competition at this price.

Mileage, so far I've averaged 6.1 L/100 I can easily get 4.2 L/100 on the highway steady at 100km/hr. The best speed seems to be 70-80 km/hr in 6th gear where it dips into the low 3's. Realistically I expect an overall average of 5.5 L/100 one I calm down a bit with the throttle and start driving properly.

Handling is excellent with the 18's and sport package, I would say it's worth the money but it does have a bit harder ride than the 2.5 I test drove as the 17's felt more "pliable".

On the Highway it is very quiet the engine hardly turns at 110km/hr. Engine noise at start up and idle is more than I expected but as it warms up it gets better. I also think it will get better after the break in period. My wife immediately complained about the idle noise she hates any noise.

All I know is I'm glad I decided on the TDI Passat vs the GLI Jetta overall cost is the same over 4 years with the fuel savings and although the GLI was more fun to drive it was a bit small for us. We will likely take the Passat on a long road trip but I doubt we would take the GLI if we had purchased it.

The only thing I don't like about the car is the Navigation system operation in Canada where you must enter Canada as the State and there is no option for province or postal codes. It's a bit offending really and how hard could this be to fix? I'm hoping a firmware update will be pending.
I drove a 2012 Golf TDI manual about 3 weeks ago. It was pretty fun to drive, spun the wheels going into 2nd getting on the freeway. Got up to about 85 on the freeway very fast. Trip computer stated mid 40s mpgs after my test drive, not bad for the way I drove it..........

If the Passat TDI man drives anything like this thing did you will love it! :D......By the way I looked at the demonstrator they had that day but didn't get a chance to drive one yet. Hopefully I will get to next time I pick up parts.......
 

rotarykid

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The Prius wasn't even an option for my friend, who is 6' 3". One of the new ones is supposed to add headroom, but at the cost of FE.

As for the sunroof, I don't think you're missing anything. Another thing to think about is that the Passat did extremely well in a roof crunch test. Of course, the model didn't have a sunroof. So, you're likely to be driving a safer car. It may also be a touch quieter without glass being in the roof.
In previous models the sunroof equipped cars were noticeably quieter as far as rattles and creeks. Sunroof cars had a more re-enforced body structure, but I don't really know on this body yet.......
 

loobster

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Oct 1. Dealer said VW updated my 6-speed Manual status as "production stock". Which apparently means the vehicle is on the assembly line being built! "Woo-hoo". They said it can remain in this state 1 week best case, 3 weeks worse.

I suspect the VW plant is building a batch of SE 6 speed manuals at the same time, so there's likely dozens of other SE models getting processed along side mine. I also suspect/hope they're inspecting the heck out of this first run trying to make sure it's right. I'm assuming this is the first production run since it seems no one has actually received a 6 Speed manual yet.
 

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Oct 1. Dealer said VW updated my 6-speed Manual status as "production stock". Which apparently means the vehicle is on the assembly line being built! "Woo-hoo". They said it can remain in this state 1 week best case, 3 weeks worse.
I have difficulty believing VW's "producing 400 Passats per day" claim -- especially when you consider the lack of dealer stock.
 

rotarykid

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I have difficulty believing VW's "producing 400 Passats per day" claim -- especially when you consider the lack of dealer stock.
That 400 a day is split between Canada, US and Mexico delivery. How many dealerships is that in three countries????? Is 400 a day at peak capacity or an expected daily average???

I do see it taking 25-40 days from beginning of build to output at the factory to delivery to local dealers being realistic.
 
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