I think these two documents should clear it up for folks. These were issued in 2022, so they are not that old.
In a nutshell:
If Phase 2B was completed BEFORE a DSG hits 40K miles or BEFORE a 6MT hits 70K miles, it must be done AGAIN!
Phase 2B is MANDATORY. It is not phase 2a OR phase 2b it is phase 2a until the vehicles hits 40K for a DSG or 70K for a 6MT. Then a dealer MUST install phase 2b. At the time Phase 2b is completed you MUST be given a loaner, MUST receive a FULL tank of fuel and MUST be given a complimentary service. This service would be an oil and filter change and tire rotation.
This makes logical sense, and is a welcome change for those who had Phase 2A done before the 40k/70k thresholds. Those cars, until the "re-issue" of Phase 2B were marked as emissions recall complete by VW (per some folks here).
Phase 2B DOES NOT reset the phase 2 warranty period. If phase 2A was completed when miles were low then that warranty extension is gone. Most likely MOST 2015s that were sold from a dealer only have the 11year or 162K mile warranty left. The 5/60K would have run concurrently and is now used up. If the vehicle was NEVER sold back to VW then it is possible to extend the warranty by doing phase 1 then phase 2 when the car approaches 11 years or 162K miles.
I have a stop sale car that was sold new with Phase 1. It was, presumably, on a dealer lot a the time of the recall, then sat until the emissions fixe(s) were approved. So that, as I understand it, would give me 11/162k.
For the Phase 2B hardware (DPF, DOC, SCR) these are part of the emissions control module. The "ECM" is what MUST be replaced with phase 2b. Meaning ALL of these items must be replaced.
There is SOME confusion on WHEN this needs to be done. One document from VW says that these parts MUST be replaced even if the warranty is expired and the other says they may only be replaced if the car still has warranty. I would be cautious and have them replaced close to the 11 year or 162K mile mark. They should then last, most likely, the rest of the life of the car. That is unless you plan to put a half million miles on the car.
This seemed clear (to me) based on all the documentation prior to this "re-issue" of Phase 2B... at that time a car with Phase 2A or 2B was considered emissions recall complete, and would have a 5/60k extension (which would be shorter than the 11/162k if a car got Phase 2A or 2B with low mileage). This seemed pretty well described here... https://www.vwdieselinfo.com/pdf/VWCourtSettlement_Emissions_Disclosure_Gen3_Final.pdf
My car is going in to have phase 2B done next month. It has 152K miles on the odometer. I confirmed with the dealer the codes are present for the complementary tank of fuel/free oil change AND the codes for the phase 2B parts.
My car was purchased with 49K miles on it and is a 6MT. They CLAIM to have done phase 2b at that time. If they did (which I don't believe) then they now have to do it again. The reason I don't believe they did is the oil ash mass level when I bought it was not zero. It was around 12. It is now around 38. I have put 102k or so miles on the car since I purchase it. At those rates the DPF would last ME with MY driving style around 300K miles.
VWC-22-13 Issued May26th, 2022. This is the overview which shows you get a FREE tank of Fuel, Free Service and Free 2b kit.
TSB 2051596/4 Note that this was issued September 6th, 2022. Includes detailed info on what is fixed.
Note these two documents conflict as the VWC letter says this services must be offered irrespective of warranty status and the TSB says warranty must be present otherwise it is "informational".
As a side note the same campaign for an Audi A3 is explicit that the service must be offered, irrespective of warranty status in both the letter and the TSB.
PS:
Just got off the phone with VW. The 2050/600K entry in the listing of warranty replacements is to complete phase 2b. It is treated as a WARRANTY replacement of parts, BUT it DOES NOT extend the emissions warranty again for another 5 years or 60K miles. That attached with the 1st part of phase 2, whether that was 2A OR 2B. If only 2A then you have until 2050 or 600k miles to come back to have phase 2b completed, but it DOES NOT extend the emissions warranty.
Is it in writing somewhere that 2B does not extend the emissions warranty for 5/60k? If so that would supersede what is mentioned on Page 12 of https://www.vwdieselinfo.com/pdf/VWCourtSettlement_Emissions_Disclosure_Gen3_Final.pdf. A snip from that page reads...
Warranty Period
The warranty period for the “Extended Emissions Warranty” limited warranty extension shall be the greater of:
- 11 years or 162,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the vehicle’s original in-service date; OR
- 5 years or 60,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the date and mileage of Phase 1 of the emissions modification. At the time of the subsequent Phase 2 modification, the extended warranty will be honored for 5 years or 60,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the date and mileage of the completion of Phase 2.
Or... are you (via VW on the phone) saying that Phase 2B completed under the "re-issue" does not grant a second 5/60k extension?
The lady did say that the parts, when installed, have a 1 year/12K miles spare parts warranty on them. Does NOT include labor if the parts fail.
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) with the relevant portion excerpted below. No new DPF for "low mileage when Phase 2 completed", but there is a new SCR system (?).
