Passat stalls when put in gear

dtreid

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2015 Passat TDI 128k km
If my 15 Passat has been sitting for a couple of hours, if I start it and immediately put in it gear it will roll forward slightly and stall the engine. If I restart everything is fine.

Has anyone else has this issue and is it doing damage to the clutch packs?
 

740GLE

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2015 Passat SEL, 2017 Alltrack SE; BB 2010 Sedan Man; 2012 Passat,
How many miles on it? 128K?

DSG? when was the fluid changed out?
 

oilhammer

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Sounds like the 1-3-5 clutch is dragging.

I would do this (requires a VAG capable scan tool):

Verify the M-unit has no DTCs.

Run the clutch adaption procedure.

See if anything changes.

Also, are you 100% certain it has the correct fluid in it? The 02E DSG uses a specific type of fluid.
 

Vaughan_TDI

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2013 Passat TDI NMS - DSG
2013 Passat TDI stalls in Drive and Reverse

HI

I have a similar problem that surfaced last week. I had the HPFP crap out on me (you can read my other thread and frustration with a crook dealer in Toronto); who blamed that I added gas to my diesel after adding gas to the tank. It should have been covered by VW under extended emissions warranty.

Anyways fast forward, I had another dealer change the HPFP (as I was afraid of getting the timing incorrect if I did it myself). The car did not start after the HPFP was replaced, so I brought it home and cleaned the RAIL and replaced the injectors with used that I bought from Ebay. I also changed the fuel filter and flushed the lines and cleaned the tank. Filled it with fresh Diesel and it ran fine for about 10,000kms until this problem surfaced.

The problem is that it stalls when I put it into drive and let go the brake and press the Gas pedal. I understand how DSG works and if I do press on the gas too quickly it could stall. That is not the case here. I cannot seems to make a left turns any more and it stall on when taking off traffic light. It does same when in reverse. The only thing that helps it in not stalling it when I let go really slowly and even then if you press on gas there is no throttle response for at least 2 to 3 seconds. I tried backing in a parking spot today and it stalled 3 times.

I already ran a clutch adaptation procedure and it did not help.

It lacks power when driving but when pushed would got 4500 RPM on up hills. It doesn't seems to have the torque it use to have. There are no codes except for one for MAF and Intake Temp Sensor. I have cleaned the MAP (03G 906 051E) but it still the same.

I also unplugged the MAF but nothing changes. I checked the Air filter and it looks reasonably clean. Also removed the Air Filter and did short test drive, no change.

Also after doing a lot of research for this issue with stalling some have reported that there is a Firmware update that a dealer can do to fix stalling issues. I talked to the dealer and they said they have not heard anything like that.

Address 01: Engine Labels: 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 997 009 J HW: 03L 907 309 S
Component and/or Version: R4 2.0l TDI H21 9982
Software Coding: 001D0012842400000000
Work Shop Code: WSC 93007 999 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L997009J 004005 (VW41)
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L997009J.rod
VCID: 3B7F6A2FB265A792C0-806E
3 Faults Found:

12642 - Charge Air Cooler
P026A 00 [237] - Efficiency Below Threshold
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 279968 km
Date: 2077.14.04
Time: 18:50:10

Engine speed: 1691.50 /min
Normed load value: 77.3 %
Vehicle speed: 74 km/h
Coolant temperature: 100 °C
Intake air temperature: 48 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.100 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Air mass at air mass meter 1: 132.9 kg/h
Temp sensor for low-pressure EGR after cooler: raw value: 102.9 °C
Outside air temperature: 19.0 °C
Intake air temperature before throttle valve: calculated: 31.7 K
Sensor for temp after charge air cooler: raw value: 48.0 °C
Coolant pump for charge-air cooling: spec. value: 95.00 %

8842 - Torque Difference Cylinder 1
P1004 00 [096] - Limit Value Exceeded
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

5552 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42)
P0111 00 [101] - Implausible Signal
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 280104 km
Date: 2077.14.07
Time: 13:26:17

Engine speed: 1094.50 /min
Normed load value: 100.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 24 °C
Intake air temperature: 73 °C
Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.860 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Coolant temperature at radiator outlet: actual value: 24.8 °C
Fuel temperature: 31.1 °C
Outside air temperature: 27.5 °C
Control Module temperature: 30.4 °C
Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 32808 s
Sensor for temp after charge air cooler: raw value: 73.0 °C


Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 997 009 J HW: 03L 907 309 S
Component and/or Version: R4 2.0l TDI H21 9982
Software Coding: 001D0012842400000000
Work Shop Code: WSC 93007 999 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L997009J 004005 (VW41)
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L997009J.rod
VCID: 3B7F6A2FB265A792C0-806E
2 Faults Found:

12642 - Charge Air Cooler
P026A 00 [175] - Efficiency Below Threshold
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 280167 km
Date: 2077.14.14
Time: 14:35:33

Engine speed: 1238.50 /min
Normed load value: 99.6 %
Vehicle speed: 65 km/h
Coolant temperature: 99 °C
Intake air temperature: 113 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.120 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Air mass at air mass meter 1: 87.3 kg/h
Temp sensor for low-pressure EGR after cooler: raw value: 98.5 °C
Outside air temperature: 25.0 °C
Intake air temperature before throttle valve: calculated: 35.2 K
Sensor for temp after charge air cooler: raw value: 113.3 °C
Coolant pump for charge-air cooling: spec. value: 95.00 %

4795 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
P0101 00 [039] - Implausible Signal
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 280195 km
Date: 2077.14.23
Time: 09:10:01

Engine speed: 1593.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 53 km/h
Coolant temperature: 99 °C
Intake air temperature: 114 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.060 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 590.5 mg/stroke
Standardized airflow ratio: filtered: 0.8303
EGR Solen.val.: actual value: 99.60 %
Throttle valve adapter: actual value: 100.06 %
Charge air pressure specified value: 1013 hPa
Charge air pressure: actual value: 1198 hPa
Mean injection quantity: 0.00 mg/stroke


Readiness: N/A
 
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thundershorts

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Speaking of dsg, is Pentocin the best fluid or something else?
 

Vaughan_TDI

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Vaughan, ON, CANADA
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2013 Passat TDI NMS - DSG
Stalls when put in drive or reverse

Well got a call from the dealer and they cannot figure out what is wrong with the engine. There are no codes. So there course of action is to change the whole fuel system and follow the protocol for mis-fueling. I reminded them that they had already changed the hpfp that I had bought brand new from ebay. I had cleaned the system and installed refurbished injectors. Also the car ran fine for 2500kms after all this work was done. They have no answers at this point.

Looks like my car is going to be a write off. There is no way I m paying them $9000 to fix the car when it’s only worth $6000 in running condition.

Thank you VW for another screw up and doing emissions fix on my car.
 

740GLE

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Location
NH
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2015 Passat SEL, 2017 Alltrack SE; BB 2010 Sedan Man; 2012 Passat,
Speaking of dsg, is Pentocin the best fluid or something else?
IDparts has elcheapo ROWE that I'll be sourcing for the first change in the Alltrack in about a month.

Others (GTI R owners) swear by VW branded fluid, and everything else is garbage, but i'll gladly save $40-50.

Also you can try Liquimoly, we ran that in our '12 Passat with no ill effects.
 
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