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JeffDes4

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Does anyone know if Opti or one of their competitors has a comparison chart comparing their additive to Opti-Lube's or vice versa? I would think as they grow (if they are growing) they would be more competitive in their marketing. Something like that may help justify the higher price Just curious, I have found nothing from any of their competitors either. They may be too small still for anyone to care.
 

ISurvivedNMU

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Opti-Lube has been trying to stand on the Spicer report that is incredibly out dated and has no relevance to the current diesel world anymore.

I do not think they want you to compare to anything else since you are buying the most expensive and hardest to get additive on the market. They are also having some issues with the Bio-Diesel they use in their additive as you can see in other posts on here and on other forums.
 

tikal

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It seems that with their XL product they are one of the least expensive per tank for gaining the most lubricity (most bang for the money).

But I agree that they need to sort out their quality control issues pronto or else.
 

LaTuFu

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Well, I am going to trust (but verify) that they got the QA issues under control. Ordered a gallon tonight.
 

ISurvivedNMU

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With the Bio-Diesel, don't let these jugs sit. Use them in 6 months or less. That seems to be the consensus on how long Bio can store.
 

LaTuFu

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Yeah, that's why I don't plan to buy in bulk larger than 1 gallon at a time. 1 gallon will be 6-7 months worth of fill-ups for me.
 

jhinsc

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I read about Optilube and the free shipping, and got so excited about it that when I ordered it, I forgot and paid the shipping!:rolleyes: Still worth it!
 

ISurvivedNMU

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I read about Optilube and the free shipping, and got so excited about it that when I ordered it, I forgot and paid the shipping!:rolleyes: Still worth it!
Another little scam you get sucked into. :confused: Just watch your bottle for it to have settlement or other impurities. There are a few threads around about it. :eek:
 

joeelmex

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I just bought 2 more gallons today. I have been using XPD on every fill up on both of the 2012 Jetta's I own since they only had 1000 miles on them. They now have 40000 miles on them and still going strong.
 

Lightflyer1

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I just bought 2 more gallons today. I have been using XPD on every fill up on both of the 2012 Jetta's I own since they only had 1000 miles on them. They now have 40000 miles on them and still going strong.
I have used it in 2 tankfuls as a test. Mine also has almost 40k and going strong. Neither of our statements have any real meaning though. I would give what I have left to anyone locally who PM's me. If you want to test it out, this is your chance.
 

ISurvivedNMU

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I just bought 2 more gallons today. I have been using XPD on every fill up on both of the 2012 Jetta's I own since they only had 1000 miles on them. They now have 40000 miles on them and still going strong.
With the Bio in XPD, make sure to use those Gallons in 6 months so they do not spoil or grow stuff.... :eek:

Opti-Lube Facebook said:
Wanted to share a testimonial we just got from a customer. This is why we do what we do!
Dear Opti-Lube,
August 2014 I bought a "low-mileage" (71600 miles) 2005 MK 4 Volkswagen Jetta TDI. Since the dealer I bought it from got it at an auction the evening before the day I bought it, he didn't have the chance to change any fluids. I went to auto parts store from leaving there and bought all top of the line fluids/filters and changed them. I started running the "gray" bottle of fuel additive at first full tank of fuel. I have the "my-cars" app on my phone and started tracking fuel mileage. I was getting 45.83 mpg average and knew it could get better. I started searching for mods and the such and stumbled upon the test results of XPD. I bought it. I also bought the oil additive. Since my oil was still good I only ran the XPD fuel treatment and my AMPG went to 49.21. After the next oil and filter change (also changed fuel filter) and adding the oil additive, I went to 52.05 AMPG my last tank of fuel. Driving a car that gets well over 750 miles on a tank of fuel is great. I drive 176 miles a day for work and don't drive any interstate. There are 27-31 traffic signals (dependent on whether going to work or coming home) on my commute one way. I felt the need to tell you that so you know my driving conditions and can see the great results of your products. I might also add that I put the oil additive in my JD riding mower and my motor runs much smoother and I get roughly 15-20 percent more running time. Thanks a lot Opti-Lube! Your products pay for themselves.
Sincerely,
Sherman S.
Milford, Va
Per this dude he is getting 52mpg city driving... LOL... But worse, Opti-Lube uses this as advertising when he used Oil fortifier in his VW. Right on Opti-Lubes page it says not to use the stuff in anything newer then 1980. LOL... Get it together Opti-Lube.
 
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tikal

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It is hard for me to believe that Opti-Lube XL and XPD is made up mostly of biodiesel. I doubt two or three ounces of an additive with mostly biodiesel will do anything substantial lubricity wise to a tankful (15 gallons or so) of D2 (you need more like 32 oz of BD).

I know that other Opti-Lube customers have reported storing their XL and XPD additives for longer than six months without any issues (correct me please if this is wrong). So to me, based on the information I have gathered so far, the Opti-Lube QA problem is confined to a specific batch dating to the Fall of 2014 time frame.
 

ISurvivedNMU

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Quoted from where the problem was first pointed out before Opti-0Lube admitted anything. http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/a...rt-like-stuff-bottom-my-opti-lube-xl-xpd.html

Opti-Lube said:
Well, we are not a vendor, so please let this post stay. I will try to clear things up.

- There is/was a problem with some of the XL and XPD bottles we have out there. Bio-Diesel is a small part of our formula and the bottom of some barrels were very dirty.

- We are not listed on the EPA website for a diesel additive. We have recently applied and are working through the process. We hope to have it complete with the EPA soon.

- Our XPD formula is not the same as it was when the spicer test was complete. We have worked to make it better and we have done testing and posted it on our website.

- Opti-Lube was run out of a garage until 2 years ago. It now under Low Range Offroad's roof.

- We will stand behind our product and refund or replace product that has this issue. Just call or email us.

We are working to correct issues and have tested everything today and it was contaminant free.
They say its a "small" part, but how do you know how much? Look at the picture showing the amount of stuff in that container. If it was really that "small" how would that much **** get in the container?

Either way, everyone seems to put faith in them from the almost 10 year old spicer report and they admit above they have since changed the formula.

When you call and talk to Steve, they tell you they test with the public and do not have anything in house to test. He will then talk about testimonials. Read the testimonials and you see snake oil written all over it.
 

murphyslaw

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power service website said:
When Al Kramer mixed up the first batch of Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement in his garage in 1956, he knew he was onto something. It simply worked better than anything he had seen during his years as a chemist for a major oil company(okay so he was a chemist, but it was still made in his garage. what back ground did the original owner of Opti-lube have?).
Ed Kramer, helped market Power Service, taking it directly to the truckers who needed it. Where Al’s ingenuity was in the lab, Ed’s proved to be in the field. Conducting a simple shaker test in the parking lot of a local truck stop(seems like a very scientific test procedure).
in 1971, he had only one product to sell. He knew that a strong national distributor network was essential to the company’s growth and success(15 years later)
By 1976, Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement was available coast-to-coast, and by 1981 was the nation’s bestseller(20 year old product before it was "readily available everywhere" and 25 years before it was the most used. How old is Opti-lube?)
I cant find anything that says when PS established an actual lab. And most everyone will throw a BS flag if the company selling something "test it themselves" and said its good. Thats like the government saying they investigated themselves and found that they did nothing wrong, right? HAHA
Just seems like everyone these days gives the little guys a hard time because they dont have everything the big guys do. But even the big guys started somewhere. What year was opti lube founded? what back ground did the original guy(s) have in chemistry? I agree low range off road seems to know next to nothing about their own product. But someone is buying the base chemicals, who is that? and what back ground do they have? You could likely make a compatible or worse or better product by taking a few qts of bio and mixing in a bunch of other stuff. But the general public does not have access to labs or much of a chemical back ground. I know I don't. Market growth is also slower these days since there are so many other products. When PS came out it was pretty much the only game in town so to speak. I know a Opti lube dealer who is dropping the line because the market is so saturated and it seems every person who has a diesel is selling something themselves. If you look at the full market of diesel fuel additives there is some really shady sh!t out there. If you line them up I think OL is fairly far down the list of BullSh!t. And the bigger any company gets the more scrutiny it falls under. Is PS the best? who REALLY knows. But its been around so long even if they royally F'd up folks would say they are trusted and been around forever so its okay as long as they fix it.

But no matter how anything works out. people will buy what they want. and if they dont like something they wont. And if they dont trust something they wont.

personally I have never seen a mileage boost from OL, I have from PS but that was at a 4x or so dosage on my duramax. I think my TDI is still to new and tight to notice anything. I have noticed that OL seems to make my duramax a bit quieter then PS. but even PS at a standard dosage makes a difference over pump fuel, but so does 2 stroke. I have 2 gallons of XPD and 1 gallon of XL in my garage and that will likely be the last of it that I buy. I just have not seen an economical benefit to running any additive no matter how much I tried to convince myself it made a difference. My duramax has made it 254k miles before I ever started putting anything in the tank other then pump fuel. I'm sure it will make it along just fine with out it. Other then reduced smoke my C8.3 has not responded to any additive. For me the additive craze is over. But its not because of OL.
 

F5air

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almost ready to order more!!! this last gallon of XPD was great. One of my friends with a Mk4 TDI is happy after using XPD.
 
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