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Love mine . When the weater is cold All one has to do is make sure the oil is good and warm. NO crawling under to change the oil. One word of caution is you might want to change the oil a few mile short than recommended.
Ok Ack, I'll bite.Love mine . When the weater is cold All one has to do is make sure the oil is good and warm. NO crawling under to change the oil. One word of caution is you might want to change the oil a few mile short than recommended.
Gasoline is a volatile liquid. There is no such thing as a flammable liquid. Only gases are easily ignitable (flammable). You can extinguish a match by sticking it into diesel fuel. With sufficient ventilation (no accumulation of vapors) you can actually do the same thing with gasoline. Diesel fuel is actually pretty difficult to ignite. Therefore, do not worry about using your Pela to extract diesel fuel. The warning about gasoline is because it is so volatile. If your extractor is half full of gasoline, the other half will rapidly contain significant quantities of gasoline vapor. The correct mixture of air and gasoline vapor is explosive (dangerous). It would take days (or weeks) for enough diesel fuel to evaporate to create an explosive mixture.Why is it that Pella has multiple warnings not to use the extractor with gasoline or flammable liquid? I used mine to prime a new fuel filter yesterday despite the warning but I am a bit curious.
In the interest of constant process improvement please elaborate explaining what exactly you find to be so ridiculous. (I am assuming you understand that the vehicle's ignition is turned off once it reaches normal operating temperature..)This is the most ridiculous oil change procedure I've ever heard of.
..........well, for every drop you "leave in the oil pan and filter housing" there is probably 1,000,000 drops through-out the engine oiling system left behind lingering, such as in the oil galleries of the block and head, the oil sprayers at the bottom of the cylinders, inside the oil cooler, between the surfaces of the bearings and journals (crankshaft/camshaft), inside the oil pump, throughout all surfaces that oil comes in contact, such as the top of head, oil pan, block, directional baffle at bottom end, baffling inside the valve cover, the five major drain-back holes down thru the block from the head, inside the "hydraulic" lifters, Turbo charger, Turbo charger oil feed line, etc.
Has anyone ever extracted with their Pela or other means and then removed the oil drain plug just to see what might flow out?
This engine (2002 ALH) had the oil drained out over 4 years ago. It still drips a few drops out everyday! See the old news papers underneath to catch the drippings?
I suppose the point is, no matter how you do your oil change, there's going to be a good amount of residual left lingering behind, just smile and think, job well done! The specs for the old MK1 engines was to change the oil filter every other oil change.....yep!
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This ^^Letting it sit overnight and turning the engine over by hand several times. Entirely no need for any of that.
How many ounces of residual oil does it take to contaminate 4.5 liters of new oil?Letting it sit overnight and turning the engine over by hand several times. Entirely no need for any of that.
Save the cost of the oil extractor contraption + mechanic and do it yourself. Gravity is free and in this case it is your friend.So I'm coming up on another oil change and I'm contemplating the idea of an oil extractor. I've got a PD, so it really can't hurt to change the oil more often than I currently do (I currently just change at the recommended interval). Where it does hurt is my pocket book! I was thinking that if I invested in an oil extractor, I could change my own oil for like 1/2 the price of taking it to my mechanic.
I'm curious to know if it's a good idea or not, if you use one, what you use, how much it cost, and if you like it or not.
Thanks in advance
Used oil does not contaminate new oil. If you put in 4.5 liters of new oil, you have 4.5 liters of new oil in addition to however much old oil is still running around the motor and oil cooler and the rest.How many ounces of residual oil does it take to contaminate 4.5 liters of new oil?
Fantasy. Whatever makes you sleep better.Used oil does not contaminate new oil. If you put in 4.5 liters of new oil, you have 4.5 liters of new oil in addition to however much old oil is still running around the motor and oil cooler and the rest.
Contradictory posts. Using an extractor allows you to get the used oil in the filter housing. But there is at LEAST a liter (over a quart) in the oil galleries, oil pump and XZN bolt heads in the head. I know this because after an overhaul, it took a 3.78 liter bottle plus another half to read to the top of the hashed section of the dipstick. Yet when I do a complete drain (that is WITH pan removal, had to renew threads), it only takes a single 3.78 liter bottle. Sludge? My Mityvac handles heat just fine, I drain HOT. And at the 160k mile overhaul (dealership mishap on first TB change, damage 120k miles later required overhaul), there wasn't a single bit of sludge in the pan. Not a single bit. Delvac 1, then T6 Rotella, 10k OCI. Mityvac 10 minute oil changes, no need to get under and pull the Panzer Plate. The Mityvac has one feature which rocks. After sucking used oil out, take the now empty jugs and refill them for the trip to the recycling station. The vacuum pump reverses to dispense the used oil. No funnels, no mess. No spilled, splashed, wind-blown oil. Just one towel, from wiping the wand down.Save the cost of the oil extractor contraption + mechanic and do it yourself. Gravity is free and in this case it is your friend.![]()
Sure bud, sure.Fantasy. Whatever makes you sleep better.
I prefer to warm the motor up to normal operating temperature and then let her drain over night. Turn the motor over manually with a wrench a couple times during this process to drain even more old oil out of the motor. This is probably overkill and not very practical for most but it is how my dad taught me to change oil and it makes happy.
How many ounces of residual oil does it take to contaminate 4.5 liters of new oil?
Save the cost of the oil extractor contraption + mechanic and do it yourself. Gravity is free and in this case it is your friend.![]()
I have.Has anyone ever extracted with their Pela or other means and then removed the oil drain plug just to see what might flow out?
So an oil extractor is a contraption, but it makes sense to you to start an oil change on one day and finish it the NEXT day?/QUOTE]
Here's a thought... use your extractor method and then the next morning remove the oil pan fastener and measure how much old oil drains out.
Have fun!
So an oil extractor is a contraption, but it makes sense to you to start an oil change on one day and finish it the NEXT day?/QUOTE]
Here's a thought... use your extractor method and then the next morning remove the oil pan fastener and measure how much old oil drains out.
Have fun!
Here is another thought. We have over 25,000 members.
Do you think that hasn't been tried already?
BTW, I would fire anyone leaving an oil change HALF done as it is an invite to starting an engine without any oil at all.
Bill
MecBenz recommends the vacuum method for a good reason reason :So I'm coming up on another oil change and I'm contemplating the idea of an oil extractor. I've got a PD, so it really can't hurt to change the oil more often than I currently do (I currently just change at the recommended interval). Where it does hurt is my pocket book! I was thinking that if I invested in an oil extractor, I could change my own oil for like 1/2 the price of taking it to my mechanic.
I'm curious to know if it's a good idea or not, if you use one, what you use, how much it cost, and if you like it or not.
Thanks in advance
BTW said:Fire away. DIYer here.![]()
See post 53So an oil extractor is a contraption, but it makes sense to you to start an oil change on one day and finish it the NEXT day?/QUOTE]
Here's a thought... use your extractor method and then the next morning remove the oil pan fastener and measure how much old oil drains out.
Have fun!
Check your Bentley manual. It was in there last I checked as an approved method.It would be beneficial if someone could locate an official recommendation from VW.