Noticeable decrease in MPG with new tires

jsm172

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I just put continental pure contact tires on my 2013 passat and I have lost about 5 MPG. The tires are eco rated and the psi is right. Has anyone else had this noticeable of a decrease in MPG with new tires?
 

Palouse

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Put the same tires on my '12 SE/DSG and mileage jumped about 3 mpg; this is over some 30K miles now. Based on tank refills, not a short ride sampling of the MPG readout.
 

gprabhu

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I just put continental pure contact tires on my 2013 passat and I have lost about 5 MPG. The tires are eco rated and the psi is right. Has anyone else had this noticeable of a decrease in MPG with new tires?
What tire pressures are you following. I inflate tires to 36 psi cold, and get a good balance of comfort and economy.
When you change tires, shop will follow placard on door and reduce PSI to match placard (or get it wrong all together and set to 30 psi)...
 

jsm172

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What tire pressures are you following. I inflate tires to 36 psi cold, and get a good balance of comfort and economy.
When you change tires, shop will follow placard on door and reduce PSI to match placard (or get it wrong all together and set to 30 psi)...
They are around 38 psi, which is pretty high. I'm hoping its just a wear in period and it will get better.
 

hskrdu

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Many owners will report lower FE with new tires, if all/most other factors are similar. Of course, if you replace heavy, wide, sport tires with lighter, narrower, LRR tires, the new ones will probably show improved FE.

Newer tires, if all else is equal, are heavier- and that weight is at the corners. New tires are taller, which decreases the reported mileage (reducing calculated FE). Newer tires have more rolling resistance than older tires, often even compared to non LRR tires. "Old" tires, (especially ones that are well worn and about to be replaced) are often at their peak for higher observed FE. They are lighter, shorter, and have (generally) the lowest rolling resistance of their lifespan. This makes the swap to new tires more dramatic in observed FE.


A search will reveal lots more good info.
 
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sunshine x

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Have the same tires and had same initial results.
I think (and told by my tire guy) that even tires need to "break in" a bit as mileage did come up again to close the same as OE tires.

Have +/- 33k miles on them and still ok but far from quiet in my opinion.
 

bustNfuel

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It could be the difference in rolling resistance between tires that are worn out and hard (less tread rubber) and new tires with full, soft tread.

I just replaced my original Continental ContiPro Contacts, 235/45 R18, with identical tires, but have not driven through the first tank yet.
After a few tanks I'll have a good idea of any changes.
My local VW dealer had a set and they were competitively priced so I used my Goodwill $500 card towards them and a 4-wheel alignment. These are the smoothest riding tires I've had in a long time, and really quiet compared to my originals with over 55K miles.
 

DaveTC

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I had the same thing (indicated decrease in FE) with some Michelin tires when switching from the original Hanook tires. I attributed it to increased rolling resistance. In addition, the tires had a slightly greater diameter so that mileage would appear lower. I noticed this because the MPG would not be indicated until just before I got to a stop sign near my house in the morning and now it is not indicated for another 75 feet or so past the stop sign.
 

czeetah

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Get some Michelin Energy Saver tires.

You might slide around in corners from the hard rubber but oh well :)
 

hskrdu

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Newer tires, if all else is equal, are heavier- and that weight is at the corners. New tires are taller, which decreases the reported mileage (reducing calculated FE). Newer tires have more rolling resistance than older tires, often even compared to non LRR tires. Meanwhile, "Old" tires, (especially ones that are well worn and about to be replaced) are often at their peak for higher observed FE. They are lighter, shorter, and have (generally) the lowest rolling resistance of their lifespan. This makes the swap to new tires more dramatic in observed FE. A search will reveal lots more good info.
^^^This.

Oh wait, that's redundant.:)
 

CNYTDi

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I replaced w/ same tires and no loss of MPG's. Just went on a 520 mile day trip from Syracuse, NY to Hershey, PA and ave 42 mpg's. Local MPG's still running mid 30's. Sadly, don't think we will see this kind of mileage again w/ the 1.8 gasser.
 

bustNfuel

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I have lost about 2 MPG per tank average since putting on the exact same tires.

Compare my previous Fuelly logs in the link in my signature. The new tires were put
on at 55,400 miles, on September 2nd.
 

r11

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Had same experience after replacing mines, a while back. The MPGs will get back soon enough
 

BigWorm

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Have you gained weight since you changed the tires? The best time to weigh yourself is in the morning everyday at the same time.

If you trim your nose hairs you will find it makes a minor but yet a difference :)
 
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