No Golf TDI - Honda Civic Hybrid, VW GTI...?

ksing44

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Feb 13, 2010
Location
Southeast PA
TDI
2010 Golf TDI
I am so sad. I think I may have been scared away form the Golf TDI. The CEL thread is giving me a GREAT BIG PAUSE!!!. My 1995 E320 has a CEL issue right now. I don’t want to buy a new car that is going to have to go back to the dealer over and over again. Just think what those stupid sensors might do when the car gets old. I was going to avoid the DSG issues with a manual transmission, but 2 different exhaust sensors that are messed up may be a deal breaker for me.

The really sad thing is that it is probably a magnificent car, but the emission standards and stupid sensors are going to make it a royal pain in the ____ neck. I absolutely loved the test drive, but oh my heavens, I definitely don’t want a NEW CAR with CEL ISSUES. I can’t believe this is happening to my dream of having the diesel Golf.

I could get a GTI with crap mileage or the low-end regular gasser Golf. Then again, maybe I need to start looking at loaded Honda Civic Hybrid. I am very worried and feeling down about all this now.

How many guys have issues with CEL on TDI?
 

tomo366

TDI Lifer, Member #68
Joined
Jun 30, 1997
Location
Kensington, Maryland USA
TDI
2015 Jetta SEL TDI
Not all 10 Golfs and Jetta's are having the problem.........I think it was an early bad batch of Sensors......
I have no problems and am thrilled with my JSW
 

dpg

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Jan 28, 2010
Location
Chi-Town
TDI
2013 JSW TDI, 2010 JSW - retired
no CEL here either. it was sounding like it was the early batches like mentioned
 

pyankura

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Jun 29, 2007
Location
Pittsburgh
TDI
2005 golf a4 body style
Buy an earlier TDI 99-03! Simpler, cheaper, and did I say simpler! I would not be scared away from a few bad seeds though.. I know a bunch that are problem free for many, many miles! They are VW, they are NOT without their quirks but they are great cars. The GTI (2.0t) is not so bad either but they have their issues too, cam, fuel pump, lifter,ETC. With the 2.0t a chip can get you 45+hp and 80+lb.ft. Most are claiming 29-31 mpg.

You buy a Honda, you gotta Honda! It will probably start every time but boring as hell.
 

740GLE

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Joined
Aug 19, 2009
Location
NH
TDI
2015 Passat SEL, 2017 Alltrack SE; BB 2010 Sedan Man; 2012 Passat,
9500 miles no CEL.

As for the early batches, I took delivery end of Aug on my sedan, it was the first that I could find, where most dealers had no clue on arrival dates. So I think it was just a bad batch on some of the wagons made in september-nov, and some how mine squeaked through unharmed.
 
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goodthymes

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Jan 19, 2010
Location
Pasadena, CA
TDI
2010 JSW TDI
2010 JSW TDI, 2000 miles and so good so far. No CEL or any other mechanical problems, just couple minor irritating non-drive train related issues.
 

raybo

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Joined
Nov 19, 2002
Location
St. Petersburg, FL
TDI
2010 JSW DSG White Gold
3,949 miles no lights on the 2010 JSW DSG - just get the Golf and don't worry - CEL is an issue on a tiny minority of cars..
(240K on the '01 Golf!)
Ray
 

tav

Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2010
Location
Puget Sound
TDI
2010 Golf
Absolutely no problems at all on my 2010 Golf TDI w/DSG. No CEL. It's a great car, I'm still in love with it after 1800 miles. Averaging between 42 and 45 in mixed driving.
 

ksing44

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Feb 13, 2010
Location
Southeast PA
TDI
2010 Golf TDI
Thank you,
I am feeling a little better now. I was thinking Saturday was the day to order my very own, but the CEL thing was making me nervous. It is true that car forums tend to magnify the negatives. Folks don't typically start a thread just to say how their car isn't broken.
 

kcfoxie

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Joined
Feb 6, 2007
Location
Raleigh, NC
TDI
'12 6-spd JSW
Exactly, ksing. People don't start threads talking about how wonderful their vehicles run. only how bad they have been over x days as of late.
 

Gowens

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Joined
Jan 28, 2010
Location
Landrum, s.c.
TDI
2010 Jetta TDI Sportswagen - multi steer- RNS-510 nav
4000 mi. on mine with no issues or lights, except i still haven't gotten over the bluetooth screw-up with putting the 9W2 in the JSW. Got a 9W3 coming. Great car. I traded a Honda civic (06) for it. Loved the honda, but the TDI is better. Got mine friday the 13th of Nov. Lucky day.
 

Pelican18TQA4

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Joined
Sep 7, 2002
Location
Philadelphia, PA
TDI
'13 Jetta Hybrid
kcfoxie said:
Exactly, ksing. People don't start threads talking about how wonderful their vehicles run. only how bad they have been over x days as of late.
And when they do start threads about how they haven't had any problems or how much they love their cars, they get so much flack and negative feedback that it's not worth it :( Ask me how I know.

OP, is there a possibility that a new Golf TDI will encounter a MIL or some other problem? Yes. Have the cars thus far been overall reliable? Yes.
 

AusTexRocker

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Jan 8, 2010
Location
Austin, TX
TDI
2010 Golf 4 Dr-DSG-United Grey Metalic
Another "no CEL" for you here at 1800 miles. Average mpg is 35 mostly rush hour. LOL, my average speed based on the display says 28! Damn that is sad. I say go for it. This is a huge step up from my '01 Impreza and I love it.
 

ksing44

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Location
Southeast PA
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2010 Golf TDI
Please keep the good news coming. I am thinking it might be safe to climb down off of the fence.
 

tomo366

TDI Lifer, Member #68
Joined
Jun 30, 1997
Location
Kensington, Maryland USA
TDI
2015 Jetta SEL TDI
ksing44 said:
Thank you,
I am feeling a little better now. I was thinking Saturday was the day to order my very own, but the CEL thing was making me nervous. It is true that car forums tend to magnify the negatives. Folks don't typically start a thread just to say how their car isn't broken.
I do have some bad news for you though.......Golf TDI's are very hard to get as they are not importing very many this year.........
 

Aquaticdoc

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Joined
Nov 24, 2009
Location
Spokane WA
TDI
2010 Golf TDI
CEL dialogue

3000 miles without any issues, and love the car. Highway mileage is around 46 mpg, overall total to date 39.6 and the mileage keeps getting better as the car breaks in. I love the Bluetooth system--some have reported issues but I've had none.

2010 Golf TDI, DSG
 

shoE30

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Joined
Dec 23, 2009
Location
Atlanta
TDI
2010 JSW
~2500 miles on my 2010 JSW sport wagon (dsg) an no problems except the following minor issues:
1.) the ipod interface is horrible
2.) rear seat armrest will not come down.
 

RedSoxFan

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Sep 2, 2009
Location
Northwest CT
TDI
2004 Duramax, 2009 Jetta TDI
We have an 09 sedan with 9K - no issues - and a 10 JSW with 4.5K - no issues either. Read the paper - Toyotas, Hondas and Subarus are no walk in the park and should no longer be considered a haven for car issues. Good luck with your decision.
 

SeaDsl

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May 29, 2008
Location
Seattle
TDI
2010 Golf TDI DSG
ksing44, you will be extremely disappointed with a Civic Hybrid after driving a Benz E320 for years. It may be reliable but it will be boring as hell. You may fall asleep at the wheel! With the Civic, you might as well be driving a electric toaster.
 

Dale Wehrle

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Jul 24, 2001
Location
SF Bay Area (CA)
TDI
2010 Golf TDI 2 Dr
SeaDsl said:
ksing44, you will be extremely disappointed with a Civic Hybrid after driving a Benz E320 for years. It may be reliable but it will be boring as hell. You may fall asleep at the wheel! With the Civic, you might as well be driving a electric toaster.
My only problem with this car is that I want to drive it all the time. It is a blast, and the 6-speed manual transmission is fantastic. When I drive my Prius, I feel WAY too abstracted from the driving experience.

I'm averaging around 5.2 L/100km in mixed driving [hilly SF, hilly I-280.]
 

goodthymes

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Jan 19, 2010
Location
Pasadena, CA
TDI
2010 JSW TDI
Dale Wehrle said:
My only problem with this car is that I want to drive it all the time. It is a blast....
Ha! So true! Even when I only need to run to the supermarket, which is very close by, I line up other places to go to, just so I can get more driving time in the TDI :p .
 
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