New Volkswagen Beetle Convertible opens up

dieselyeti

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You must remember that the EPA revamped the way it estimates MPGs in 2007 while new TDIs were on hiatus in North America. The sticker numbers are worse on EVERYTHING beginning in 2007. And the method penalized the diesels by a substantial margin (exact number escapes me at the moment). I think the Beetle TDI will get much better than sticker. I doubt many will see 50-mpg... but they'll do better than 38 for sure!
Thanks for the clarity. I've been saying this in response to those squawking about the TDI EPA figures. My '09 sedan is rated 30/39 and even when new it was returning high 30's in town and low 40's highway.
 

VeeDubTDI

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The 2013 Beetle TDI is now available for order, according to Chris Farnham. He placed his first order in the system a few days ago. Pricing, specs and delivery dates have not been announced yet.
 

mcH

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All this talk about new Diesels -- the upcoming Mazda CX-5 AWD Diesel has caught my eye with talk of 52mpg. I guess we have to wait until next year to find out the real specs.
 

TomJD

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All this talk about new Diesels -- the upcoming Mazda CX-5 AWD Diesel has caught my eye with talk of 52mpg. I guess we have to wait until next year to find out the real specs.
I would be willing to bet that 52mpg won't happen, at least here in the US at least. I say this because if VW isn't selling something with 52mpg after all their experience selling diesels in the U.S., Mazda can't. It isn't that they aren't capable, but the emissions laws in the U.S. don't foster an atmosphere of improved mpg ratings for diesels.

Lets just say I wouldn't hold your breath for it.
 

bhtooefr

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In a CX-5, I'd guess that's 52 mpUSg on the Euro cycle - and probably extra-urban at that (although usually it's combined figures that are quoted for that cycle).

Euro combined figures for diesels tend to be significantly higher than US highway.
 

TomJD

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In a CX-5, I'd guess that's 52 mpUSg on the Euro cycle - and probably extra-urban at that (although usually it's combined figures that are quoted for that cycle).

Euro combined figures for diesels tend to be significantly higher than US highway.
And they don't have to follow California emissions standards:rolleyes:
 

atc98002

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In a CX-5, I'd guess that's 52 mpUSg on the Euro cycle - and probably extra-urban at that (although usually it's combined figures that are quoted for that cycle).

Euro combined figures for diesels tend to be significantly higher than US highway.
And they are probably using British gallons as well :)
 

mcH

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No, that 52mpg was estimated US gallons. I'm looking for the article now. But of course, the car isn't here yet, so who knows.
 

Gary Miyakawa

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I was up in Herndon last week and drove thru the VoA parking lot and there was a white Beetle TDI sitting out back...

Guess they are almost here...

Gary M
 

kafer65

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One thing not mentioned is the huge improvement of trunk space without having to fold the rear seats down.
 

Gary Miyakawa

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hey Guys !

Thanks for the HEY there ! I've been around... Still have the 98 NB.. Thinking that, after 14 years, it's time for a new one...

I get up to Herndon pretty often and would love to catch up with the locals up there !

BTW, keeping a bit on thread, if anyone sees a 2013 TDI Beetle on a lot, post it up here so those of us interested and looking ! :) :D :)

Cheers,

Gary M
 

VeeDubTDI

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I'll keep my eye out and might head over to VWOA for a look through their lot. I spied a couple of Q7 V12 TDIs on their lot back in 2009 along with a Golf City.
 

tomo366

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Contact Chris Farnham at Vw of Langhorne PA he is the best TDI Salesman in the Country and takes care of Club Members! vhe has a Yellow TDI Bug on order right now
 

BIGJOHNO

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Lawson, I have begun lurking again and I see your posts often. Unfortunately, I am far from NoVA. Have been busy swinging deals with the folks in the area however...
 

VeeDubTDI

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Good to see you back! car54 and I still hang out and he's mentioned a few of your adventures. :cool:
 

tbenefie

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I currently have the 2006-1/2 VW Jetta TDI that I love because of the MPG with mostly 54MPG Hwy and 45MPG overall city & hwy. Also, I have strictly been using the AMSOIL oil in it from the start when the VW dealer changed the initial engine oil for me and put in the wrong oil; I immediately dumped that and started using the AMSOIL product for that engine. I now have over 150,000 miles on the engine with NO PROBLEMS!

Anyway, I've been looking at maybe upgrading to the 2013 VW Passat TDI, but am very concerned about what is this Blue stuff you have to add to your oil change/fuel-up all the time?

Thanks!!!

Tom
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VeeDubTDI

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That "Blue stuff" isn't added to the oil or the fuel and it isn't all the time.

AdBlue is a urea solution that is a critical component of the emissions control system. There's tank in the trunk that needs to be filled approximately every 15,000 miles. Cost is negligible in the grand scheme of things.
 

bhtooefr

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Your question would be more appropriate in its own thread, this thread is for discussing the 2013 Beetle (not Passat) TDI.

In any case, there's a tank of diesel exhaust fluid (which is available at many truck stops cheaply - you'll want one bottle from the dealer, as it's designed to interface with the tank without spillage, but you can later cut the bottom off that bottle and use it as a funnel, or potentially refill that bottle), 4.9 gallons, and VW estimates that it will last 15,500 miles between fillups.
 

VeeDubTDI

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As tooef said, it only applies to the Touareg V6 and and Passat TDI at the moment (and the Audi Q7)... NOT the Beetle.
 

Gary Miyakawa

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Looks like VW has posted the Beetle will be available in August.... Found a couple links from VWoA about it... they also upped the "factory" MPG (by 1 or 2)...

Hmmm.... Wonder how long I can live without a chip.... ;)

Sadly, it looks like, with a chip, I'll get about 20 more hp and the same Torque as now... *sigh*... Oh well, it would be 13 years newer ! :D

Could be fun !

Gary M
 
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