I will be using the car for trips on the interstate going 75 to 80 but I still need to drive 55 to 60 on country roads to get to work. Would a .717 be any help to me?If you're doing a max of 60, I'd suggest leaving it stock. Taller 5th is for higher speeds.
You may have to modify a conical washer that holds the gear on. I went with .658 and had to chuck the washer and grind down the outside edge of the washer down. Think making a 30 mm circle to a 27mm circle. I don't know they make aftermarket gears. But find the part # and search (google and ebay, ebay international)
I have been saving about 10%-20% on buying VAG parts from Eastern Europe.
Or buy from RYAN HE IS AWESOME!!!! Darkside is great but the USD from the GBP so you will pay a premium.
I got a Masiero .717 gear off EbayUK. After a .658 I'm MUCH happier.
At 75mph I'm doing 2400 rpm, wanna' pass? The turbo is ready to go.
At 60 I'm thinking about 4th.
The .717 is a great match to the rev bands, trust me, you won't regret it.
The .658 was too much of a jump for 4th>5th, especially because I do some
You'll be able to sell your 5th (stock) .756 to the gassers, who want a taller
ratio. Or people who strip them on the TDI's by lugging them in top gear.
At the same 75mph, what were your rpm’s using the .658 gear ?
IIRC, 2-300 rpm. Doesn't sound like much, but it made all the difference in
highway driving. I can drop back to 65 and cruise comfortably in 5th.
With the taller gear it was really annoying to be downshifting to stop lugging the motor.
I believe IBW had one for a while, and like me, swears by it. The rpm range from one gear to another stays consistent. As pointed out by others,
there's no real FE gain with the .658 ratio. Driving hard to merge in to high speed traffic I'll run 4th to 80. Everybody seems to want to run their motors at low rpms. Sure, you got torque low down, but now you're
stressing our small motors. Run them harder, they like it!
My cruise works in 5th.hey Rruse11, do ALH's lose their cruise when swapping 5th gear ratio from stock? I do believe the lore that the BEW's do...confound them. Been looking at the A-M .717's and do believe I shall take the plunge. 126 GBP is not so bad, and I suspect the VAT deduction will take care of shipping... or nearly so.
Don't see any currently. There are however several .717 on eBay right now for less than half that price if that's an option for you.
The guys with lower gears must really run 4th out. I don't think I'd like any less gearing, even with more power. The rpm drop would be too much. I think you will like the .717 very much, but you have to decide if it's worth the cost.Still deciding and regardless I think I will go with an aftermarket from Darkside as they are a bit lower than e-bay even after the exchange rate.
From all the comments it seems the .717 is better for the driving experience and I am leaning that way.
I myself am a want to be hyper miler as I see very few cars on my way to work but the max I hit is 65 when heading to the plant. I am drawn to the idea of riding out 4th and them keeping it low in 5th or neutral for fuel economy when driving country roads.
When on the interstate I think the 658 would be what I want . I have a tune and will get nozzles but I am fearful that the 658 will dog the engine to much when not doing highway driving.
Speed when passing and power is not what out of the Jetta but I do not want to lug the engine at the same time.
No problem with my cruiese control.
And the link PakProtector listed is where I got mine.
Good quality, I had it installed by the same guy who did my Peloquin LSD.
He did it while I waited.
Darkside has the .700 full kit with gsket for 300 GBP but its a VW gear and not aftermarket. They have aftermarket kits in .622, .658, and .717 for 150 GBP